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then what is your problem if a Khilafa happens to be implemented in Pakistan or any other middle eastern country? if your secular republic can ban religious clothing in public/governmental facilities then what's the problem if there is a Khilafa with Islamic laws?

if its in a Muslim country then let the Muslims decide what they want, who are you "liberals" to decide what is "outdated", and "backwards" for us? This is what i don't like, the double standards!

It is for your own good if you want to call it double standards go right ahead just like why communism was kept out of the U.S. because it was a failed oppressive way of governance.Religious faith based governments will be too. Be smart be progressive silent. Don't forget history and look at the bigger picture as Ataturk did.
 
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I wonder how the West or Pro Democracy supporters will feel is Muslims actively supported and financed groups to bring change to other countries of getting rid of Democracy and implementing Islamic Shariah just like the West is doing to promote their way of life ..........

Majority of Muslims can care less what the west does as long as they don't force their way of life down our throats. I'm the type of person that respects others beliefs and way of life as long as you don't call my way of life "backwards", "medieval", etc.....
 
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It is for your own good. Be smart be progressive silent. Don't forget history and look at the bigger picture as Ataturk did.

Mustapha Kamal Ataturk was the leader and founding father of your country and i respect him just as i respect George Washington, Winston Churchill, etc...

And how can you call something "backwards" when you haven't even given it a chance to bear fruit, to mature, to progress, to show its true colors? Its like you plant a flower and you wait a few days, but instead of letting it grow and blossom you get impatient and kill it.

As i said, double standards, facist liberals forcing their way of life down others throats!
 
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You are stereotyping that everyone dresses like that and even if everyone did there is no justification for rape. What on earth kind of thinking is that. If you going around raping people the problem is you and you alone.

There is no justification to rape, but yet rapes are occurring and mainly due to the provocative dressing of women.

It is like saying i murdered him because his cartoons made me uneasy. If that makes sense the problem is with you.

then in the same case you can't stop a rapist from raping, its like telling someone to hold their number 2 in! You just can't change human anatomy, these are natural urges, however a woman can dress more appropriately which in turn will make it much easier for a guy to control himself and this will decrease the chances of rape!




Depends on what line of work they are in. **** stars are objects of sexual pleasure and they portray themselves that way and they are totally fine with it and i see no problem with what they do i personally know a few that work here in Arizona and they are very liberal and open minded people which is great. Also many famous women in Hollywood display a certain amount of sex appeal for the masses. Non of these people get raped however.

it still doesn't justify pornography. **** leads to many mental illnesses like paraphilias which in turn lead to unnatural behavior like pedophilia, voyeurism, etc...


Teens with their pants around their ankles use them term all the time. I don't.

i feel sad for the future of America.





By your obtuse argument that what they were justifiably may lead them to get raped does in fact bring up comparisons to video games being censored on the bases that they lead people to shoot up schools and murder people. Which like your argument is false.

not really, video games are not real, tell me what are the chances that we will be invaded by aliens from "Area 51"?, or that Russia will invade America? Or that zombies will take over the world?

Depicting women as sex objects of pleasure on the other hand is degrading them in turn which leads to diseases (mental and sexually transmitted) and immorally corrupt society!









How can i argue against such sound logic. We should censor what women wear on the bases that it may lead to men raping them and this would be justifiable because they in turn dressed like this. Amazing simply amazing.

with a logic like yours, i wouldn't be surprised if in the near future sexual intercourse and roaming completely naked in public becomes legal and ok!




And women don't get raped in the ME plz give me a break. That doesn't even have anything to do with democracy. It is simple rights.

Not denying they don't get raped, and neither are any middle eastern countries Islamic! All if not most middle eastern countries are ruled by tribal monarchies, dictators, and royal families who are BTW supported by the liberal west!







Lets stay in reality here when dealing out punishments. Again your sound logic that because a man made fun of a religious figure it is justifiable he is killed. This is probably the ultimate reason i will stay in the U.S. and western countries. Freedom of expression is one of the greatest rights any human can have.

reread my post, nowhere did i say they should kill him! You completely missed my point there, what i meant was that if you cross the limits by messing with the sentiments of more than a billion people then be prepared to face the consequences! I personally leave it to Allah to deal with the guy who drew those cartoons but you see not all Muslims share my views!
 
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so according to your definition those millions (majority muslims) vote for MQM are traitors ,their opinion doesnt matter also they dont have any weight ..... whereas geniuses like you with no public mandate and are dreaming of implementing some foreign version of Islamic khilafat and sharia in the whole world have much weight ?? well all i have to say to you is this :hitwall:this :hitwall: and this :hitwall:
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Prophet Mohammed PBUH predicted a time where muslims will be like scums.
Who ever supports Pharoahs of today like Altaf NS Zardar Mush Imran Khan etc are in that category.
 
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It is for your own good if you want to call it double standards go right ahead just like why communism was kept out of the U.S. because it was a failed oppressive way of governance.Religious faith based governments will be too. Be smart be progressive silent. Don't forget history and look at the bigger picture as Ataturk did.

hope u r muslim..3 march 1924,mustafa kamalpasha: "... garbage of khalifa and followers of usman(r.a) has to go now.time has come to finish backward courts and modern courts with new laws replace them and decayed schools of religious ppl replaced by government's schools which will be secular"
think like muslim, islam is r life,that man destroyed khilafat..he thought nationalism wich is against the islamic concept of "1 ummah"
 
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post#154 SilentNinja great reply..
I also want to add that rapes as you suggested not only always occur because if indecent dresses; poverty also take its toll. Simple instance can be discussed here: if a landlord can come to a peasant house & raped his sister even if she wearing a Burka [Burka can be torn apart in less than 10sec]:coffee:
 
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hope u r muslim..3 march 1924,mustafa kamalpasha: "... garbage of khalifa and followers of usman(r.a) has to go now.time has come to finish backward courts and modern courts with new laws replace them and decayed schools of religious ppl replaced by government's schools which will be secular"
think like muslim, islam is r life,that man destroyed khilafat..he thought nationalism wich is against the islamic concept of "1 ummah"

Sorry to break it to you but "ummah" doesn't exist, where was "ummah" in 1971?? Where was "ummah" during kargil war when Israel was providing India with drones and lgb's to kill Pakistani soldiers??
 
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Sorry to break it to you but "ummah" doesn't exist, where was "ummah" in 1971?? Where was "ummah" during kargil war when Israel was providing India with drones and lgb's to kill Pakistani soldiers??

Remember my friend... YOu ll go in your grave and the enemies who have destroyed the unity of the Ummah will go in their graves... You wont be asked about what others said and did... Please stick to the principles of Islam no matter what others are doing... Scum of earth is not the ideals for the men of Islam to follow...
 
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Remember my friend... YOu ll go in your grave and the enemies who have destroyed the unity of the Ummah will go in their graves... You wont be asked about what others said and did... Please stick to the principles of Islam no matter what others are doing... Scum of earth is not the ideals for the men of Islam to follow...

We cannot take responsibility for 1.2 billion people; we must start with ourselves first. I believe we can serve the greater Muslim cause better if we are a strong country. Do you think the US would have dared invade Iraq or Afghanistan if Pakistan had been as strong as, say, Russia?

Remember Kosova? The US bombed Serbia in a proxy war against the Russians but they dared not send ground troops. The Russians would never have tolerated NATO ground troops in a fellow Slavic country.
 
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Remember my friend... YOu ll go in your grave and the enemies who have destroyed the unity of the Ummah will go in their graves... You wont be asked about what others said and did... Please stick to the principles of Islam no matter what others are doing... Scum of earth is not the ideals for the men of Islam to follow...

No one truly knows what will be asked. As far as i know what ever matter came across in our life will be asked and answered.
 
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Pakistan is a truly unique country ..
Ppl in other countries are fighting for Democracy and
Ppl in Pakistan are against Democracy
 
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Pakistan is a truly unique country ..
Ppl in other countries are fighting for Democracy and
Ppl in Pakistan are against Democracy

Thats because our people keep on electing thieves and traitors like zardaris, bhuttos, nawaz sharif, altaf hussain, etc, etc..
 
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