Your views on Euthanasia/Assisted Suicide?

[niaz]

What's the point of living at all If you already know the inevitable? Has human intelligence reached a certain level where logic dictates that the next step of evolution for humanity is to die out?



Ramblings from a stupid guy.

I think this is a pertinent question. But then we all know that we are going to die sooner or later?

The basic question remains, are you living or merely existing? If despite all the aches & pains (these come with the old age any way); disappointments (failure to achieve ones desires) and sadness (death of a close relation or a friend) you are still a reasonably healthy individual; wanting to end your life is cowardice as it indicates ones inability to face the life itself.

However, for one who is perpetually bed ridden, on life support and in terrible pain; your point is valid.

 

[KapitaanAli]

The best euthanasia is of course going out with a blast for science. Launch me into outer space and let me back in without heat shield.

But I'm afraid it's the same logic suicide bombers use.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I think this is a pertinent question. But then we all know that we are going to die sooner or later?

The basic question remains, are you living or merely existing? If despite all the aches & pains (these come with the old age any way); disappointments (failure to achieve ones desires) and sadness (death of a close relation or a friend) you are still a reasonably healthy individual; wanting to end your life is cowardice as it indicates ones inability to face the life itself.

However, for one who is perpetually bed ridden, on life support and in terrible pain; your point is valid.

I feel like the queries I raised are relevant to both circumstances.

 

[Zibago]

It should be illegal

 

[lastofthepatriots]

It should be illegal

That's great brother. Can you also explain why you think so?

 

[Zibago]

That's great brother. Can you also explain why you think so?

1)I consider it to be a form of legal murder
2)Your lights should go out when your body gives up not your mind

 

[Vergennes]

What about right to commit suicide? What does France's law says?

In France,assisted suicide or euthanasia is forbidden. Generally,people who are denied it,in last resort,go to other European countries,such as Belgium.

In 2016,a consensus between conservative and socialists lawmakers saw a bill letting doctors to keep terminally ill patients sedated until death adopted,but stopped short of legalising euthanasia or assisted suicide. I don't know what really is Macron's stance on the subject,but he made clear that it wasn't a priority... but promised a debate involving all religious and phylosophical movements.

 

[Cell_DbZ]

I believe if the pain is insufferable, euthanasia should be allowed, of course many 'requirements' should be met. (for example: the illness must be terminal, there must be the absolute will of the person undergoing said euthanasia,...)

In France,assisted suicide or euthanasia is forbidden. Generally,people who are denied it,in last resort,go to other European countries,such as Belgium.

Even in Belgium it is not assured that it will go through, because there are only a few doctors who are preparded to take the risks; they are ought responsible for potential mistakes.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

1)I consider it to be a form of legal murder
2)Your lights should go out when your body gives up not your mind

Your mind can keep your body going, but the opposite is not possible.

 

[Mage]

In France,assisted suicide or euthanasia is forbidden. Generally,people who are denied it,in last resort,go to other European countries,such as Belgium.

In 2016,a consensus between conservative and socialists lawmakers saw a bill letting doctors to keep terminally ill patients sedated until death adopted,but stopped short of legalising euthanasia or assisted suicide. I don't know what really is Macron's stance on the subject,but he made clear that it wasn't a priority... but promised a debate involving all religious and phylosophical movements.

I think I read Melenchon supported legalizing euthanasia? Anyway, if you are free to live, you should be free to die as well.

I believe if the pain is insufferable, euthanasia should be allowed, of course many 'requirements' should be met. (for example: the illness must be terminal, there must be the absolute will of the person undergoing said euthanasia,...)

Why one has to suffer from terminal illness for euthanasia to be allowed? Can't you die on your own terms?

 

[Joe Shearer]

At a human level I agree with you. Though it goes against every fiber of my profession.

Cheers, Doc

That is one of the major problems facing euthanasia. Many doctors flatly refuse to have anything to do with it, on the highest ethical grounds, keeping in mind, as well, the Hippocratic Oath. This, although 99% of Indian doctors may not even have heard of it.

 

[Spring Onion]

the west introduced this physical method to help a person die while if I talk as a Muslim well there is a concept here in Pakistan where we pray for the death of the person who is on death bed (who is not in a position to survive) but in such a pain where he or she can't bear it anymore but at the same time not dying. In such a situation here people often arrange khatm-e-Quran or recite verses so that the person on death bed could die and thus get rid of the pain.

 

[Well.wisher]

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WOW....Ma'am thanks for your kind reply. I'm not planning any such thing. At least not for now.Despite having mild monophobia, I'm currently living a good, healthy life. Although I'm gradually losing my faith in God. I haven't lost all of it...but sadly I'm at a point where someone could call be an unbeliever still I fell religious from time to time.

It could be due to your disconnection with God . We humans are so busy in life , in our happiness that we forget the giver . You should reconnect with God , when you're away from God such thoughts from devil do come as if you've neglected God , you've lost faith in it , you're an unbeliever etc etc . Devil feeds on those thoughts .
Faith on God is very necessary for humans , just cause we have developed a lot and we've become intelligent doesn't mean we own this world , universe and reject and treat God as superstition , powerless , medieval etc . Don't fall for this evil propaganda . Call Allah , he's always near you .

I'm quite a nihilist from philosophical POV. So, I'm not looking for light. Rather I'm willing to live in darkness.

This is a disappointing behaviour , You must realise when someone isn't willing to change their situation .. situation doesn't changes ! . You should have strong will power .
What I said to you was not based on philosophy , it were the rules of this world , this is how the giver of the problems has set these rules . Trust that your problems are not permanent , trust yourself ... Everything will be alright .

Hope i helped .

 

[Cell_DbZ]

Why one has to suffer from terminal illness for euthanasia to be allowed? Can't you die on your own terms?

I don't know, perhaps because of old age, I might agree. However, you only get one life, there's no turning back; you won't ever get your life back.

 

[Mage]

However, you only get one life, there's no turning back; you won't ever get your life back.

I think people who want to die are well aware of that. I think Euthanasia should be legalized for every adult who can prove themselves to be mentally stable.

It could be due to your disconnection with God . We humans are so busy in life , in our happiness that we forget the giver . You should reconnect with God , when you're away from God such thoughts from devil do come as if you've neglected God , you've lost faith in it , you're an unbeliever etc etc . Devil feeds on those thoughts .
Faith on God is very necessary for humans , just cause we have developed a lot and we've become intelligent doesn't mean we own this world , universe and reject and treat God as superstition , powerless , medieval etc . Don't fall for this evil propaganda . Call Allah , he's always near you .

Lets leave the religious debate here. I can say one thing. Whatever I chose to believe and don't choose to believe are on me. Devil didn't play a part. I will take responsibility for whatever happens because of that. If my disbelief leads me to hell, then I shall go there without blaming devil.

This is a disappointing behaviour , You must realise when someone isn't willing to change their situation .. situation doesn't changes ! . You should have strong will power .
What I said to you was not based on philosophy , it were the rules of this world , this is how the giver of the problems has set these rules . Trust that your problems are not permanent , trust yourself ... Everything will be alright .

Hope i helped .

I wasn't really looking for help. I posted this thread to debate and to know about others views. But still thanks.
Btw, why do you think that there is some kind of problem with me?