You cant fight india with a weak economy ...

[Arsalan]

Leaving Afghanistan so abruptly was a mistake and USA has paid the price for it, for sure. But I do not think that area will be able to mount any such attacks for a long time to come.

If by long time you mean 12-15 years then may be yes! But 12-15 years are NOT a long time in terms of life of nations. Last time around when US left there was no one to fill in that vacuum as Soviets were already beaten. This time, there will be China, Russia, India and even Pakistan waiting on the outside. That may help US avoid the terrorist attacks but its a huge risk in my opinion. Plus US wont want to leave Afg to these countries, they just want to leave Afg, period.

 

[VCheng]

If by long time you mean 12-15 years then may be yes! But 12-15 years are NOT a long time in terms of life of nations. Last time around when US left there was no one to fill in that vacuum as Soviets were already beaten. This time, there will be China, Russia, India and even Pakistan waiting on the outside. That may help US avoid the terrorist attacks but its a huge risk in my opinion. Plus US wont want to leave Afg to these countries, they just want to leave Afg, period.

And PMIK has promised that Pakistan will do everything it can to help USA in Afghanistan. Let us see what happens - and to remain on topic - how that assistance helps Pakistan's economy.

 

[bolo]

1. we are in an economic mess .

2. we are in too much debt.

3. a war with india will destroy our ' credit worthiness' . aka our lenders will simply back away from their commitments .

4. PA has at most 90 - 100 days of POL .

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^^ connect the dots above. we are under IMF programme . we cant even make a banking law without FATF approval . in short, our hands are tied and now are facing the Kashmir issue.


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this is what happens when you dont act boldly . when you dont hang the chors who would cough up 5 billion easily, but no , you ran to int'l Jewish lenders and now you sit and watch helplessly while india annexes kashmir totally

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good luck with accountants and bankers running our economy

China fought Americans and her allies in Korean war , fought the Japanese and fought a civil war. China was poorer than Pakistan.

 

[blain2]

I can understand Kashmir, but why are India's minorities of any concern to you in relation to maintaining a relationship with India ?

Point being with Hindutva sentiment and militancy on the rise, it is an indication that the direction being taken against Muslims in Kashmir will also become more antagonistic just like it is elsewhere in India. The same goes for relations with Pakistan.

It is 'more to lose' not 'more to loss'. Anyways there is no war happening. So chill!



I hate BJP to the core.... I knew many such Indians, but each and every one of them supports this governments Pakistan policy!

Don't engage Pakistan till it stops engaging terrorist. No war is happening, Pakistan cannot sustain a conventional war and nuclear option is feasible, not even China would back in that scenario.

Pakistan can and will sustain a conventional war. You folks keep on underestimating this fact. I am not calling for a war but I can tell you that Pakistan won't give a damn even if it has to default if need be. Countries have defaulted on far lesser pretexts than a war and in the overall scheme of things if a war begins, Pakistan's default won't be the headlines.

Also let's remember, Pakistan has never fought a war with ANYONE's backing, not Amreeki, nor Cheeni or Arabi.

And lastly, it won't be Pakistan that would initiate a war but it will respond with effect to what India does.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan can and will sustain a conventional war. You folks keep on underestimating this fact. I am not calling for a war but I can tell you that Pakistan won't give a damn even if it has to default if need be. Countries have defaulted on far lesser pretexts than a war and in the overall scheme of things if a war begins, Pakistan's default won't be the headlines.

Also let's remember, Pakistan has never fought a war with ANYONE's backing, not Amreeki, nor Cheeni or Arabi.

And lastly, it won't be Pakistan that would initiate a war but it will respond with effect to what India does.

Any conventional war that actually achieves something substantive runs a huge risk of a nuclear escalation. Hence, any conventional war will likely not do anything to break the existing stalemate.

 

[blain2]

Any conventional war that actually achieves something substantive runs a huge risk of a nuclear escalation. Hence, any conventional war will likely not do anything to break the existing stalemate.

Hopefully you got the hint of the same when I wrote: "in the overall scheme of things if a war begins, Pakistan's default won't be the headlines." I agree with your assessment because all of the past wars involving the two have not changed the basic equation on the ground but this time around things are different. Come what may, Pakistan will never allow a repeat of 1971. That is was our "never again" moment.

As such I agree with the PM's statements the other day that Pakistan won't be initiating a war. However, Kashmiri resistance will be the catalyst for a war. It is a matter of time unless there are substantive talks (which won't happen for reasons I described above).

What we know is that India cannot have her cake and eat it too, and I understand the very same applies to Pakistan as well. Some give and take is necessary but I do not see that happening now given the hubris and the supposed "mandate" on the other side. So they will try to eat their cake and after failing at that, eventually end up talking but what happens in between is not going to be pleasant.

 

[Arsalan]

And PMIK has promised that Pakistan will do everything it can to help USA in Afghanistan. Let us see what happens - and to remain on topic - how that assistance helps Pakistan's economy.

A stable Afghanistan is in our interest as well, if that helps US too and thus improve our relations its a win win. Any assistance, financial or diplomatic will be good. Its a global village, you cannot live alone.

 

[VCheng]

Hopefully you got the hint of the same when I wrote: "in the overall scheme of things if a war begins, Pakistan's default won't be the headlines."

Of course. And that is why any change in the stalemate must occur by means other than war.

A stable Afghanistan is in our interest as well, if that helps US too and thus improve our relations its a win win. Any assistance, financial or diplomatic will be good. Its a global village, you cannot live alone.

Agreed. Let us see how the endgame is reached with Pakistan's promised help and what all parties get in return.

 

[B.K.N]

conventional war

There wouldn't be any war all these Indian and Pakistani politicians talk about development all the time such type of people don't attack other countries

 

[xyx007]

Do you understand deepness of situation , Modi is going implement Isreali Model in Kashimri to change the demographic. Once it changed , then you wake up from sleep and goto UN , come on ?
All war never fought with money , and there no fight for winning or losing . Nation fight for their rights and Waqar. Today in Modern time Taliban defeated the super power , did they have plenty of money , off course no. All war start is win by jazba jihad , and we need now in every mosque to spread jihad hind against this racist regime in India. This is jihad fisiballah.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Time to go to UN and Council is over .... it is time for stern action

 

[B.K.N]

Those who care about econmec or development can never fight a war

 

[zpak]

@Major Sam
if you want to be fair give the negative rating to the one who brought in cow pee into the discussion



vietnamese economy is doing well
afghanistan will be afghanistan

It wasn't during the Vietnam War with the US. I think you missed that completely.

Afghanistan being Afghanistan isn't exactly a coherent argument.

 

[EpiiC]

Tell you how.. remember what Taliban did with mighty USA and NATO...money don't win you wars idiot

USA didn't go all in on Taliban.... they could have nuked them like Hiroshima and Nagasaki ..... They went easy on Taliban.... They the USA could crush India military too....

 

[Varunastra]

Lol guys speaking about having faith and courage with a weak economy. How are you gonna get modern equipment without it? From thin air? 6 courageous guys with aks vs one apache heli and the heli wins.