Yom Kippur War 1973: Why did Syria fail to take the Golan Heights?

[somebozo]

Syrian army is a world class joke and their intelligence was successfully infiltrated by Israeli agent named Eli Cohen who advised them to plant certain trees on Syrian army positions at Golan. Then relayed that information back to Israel, so when the war came all Syrian positions were bombarded with precision. As similar psy-ops was used by ISI in the recent war against taliban where nationalist sentiments were stirred with propaganda and people started waving Pakistan or Taliban flags on their roof. Then the trouble makers were taken out with precision strikes.

 

[500]

why did it take 6 years to build the defensive line then. why your generals said it need the engineers of the soviets and the US to cross it and shazly said in detail what the bar liv line was

It took one year, the most expensive part was sand dune along the 150 km canal.

i dont understand what you mean if you mean the attack which we did outside our air defense every one knew it was a suicide but we did it anyway

Why Egypt did not employ the same tactics u suggest for Syrians. That anti tank crews advance together with tanks.

if you want to talk about depleted army we should talk about IDF we still had the republican guards and the 4th armored and we can call algrians reinforcements
let us imagine the war continue

4th armored crossed on 12-13 oct and depleted during 14 oct attack. Algerians were lower quality and I doubt they have very high morale to fight for Egypt.

the 3rd army was surrounded but there is no way we can tell if isrealis attack they would finish them off on paper

No need to attack it. Just cut supplies and bomb (the air defence was destroyed).

the isreali attack on ismalia would work but they were stooped by airborne and elite infantry thunderbolt also their attack on suez light infantry and the brave people of suez managed to defend their city isreal had already lost a large number considering their size and population
the situation inside isreal
the economy would collapse if they fight any longer the isreali reserves are the nation civilians

Israel had fully mobilized forces till the end of January 1974. 3rd army was surrounded for 3 month. I doubt they would last so much without the food water and other supplies and under constant bombings in open desert.

 

[The SC]

i know this very well this is why we lost in 76 war our air force was destroyed on the ground
in 73 some SAMs were destroyed by isreali later in the war but our air force did not suffer big losses and our air force was doing the best he can with what we have you can see mansora air battle so our migs can cover army operations and by the end of the war we have the sam line between cairo and suez protected by our ground forces

That is 1967 war Mahmoud.

 

[500]

Your red rhombus is just beside a lake, so who is lying here?

You claimed that Israel crossed over the lake and not over the canal. Which was another of ur stupid lies. The initial crossing was close to lake (not over). Later Israel expanded canal zone to about 15 km.

yeah, the "superior" IDF attacked a city and they got repelled by a bunch of civilians LOL what a humiliation

As I said Suez was defended by units of 19th and 6th divisions (those who did not cross or those who crossed back). It was a large city size of Fallijah or Grozny. There was not a big importance since it was already surrounded. The order was simple: enter the city, if u see strong resistance then retreat. 4 tanks were lost in ambush in the center of the city.

Syrian army is a world class joke and their intelligence was successfully infiltrated by Israeli agent named Eli Cohen who advised them to plant certain trees on Syrian army positions at Golan. Then relayed that information back to Israel, so when the war came all Syrian positions were bombarded with precision.

Thats urban legend.

 

[Penguin]

Oh well, let me tell you, Israel didn't have any Anti-tank weapons during the 1973 war , the Israeli soldiers in the tanks were shocked on the Egyptian front when they first saw these missiles being used against them by Egyptian military, the Israeli soldiers didn't know what it was, they said we saw these things flying everywhere and taking down all our tanks, the Israeli mechanized units got fcked by anit-tank missiles during the war in Sinai, they lost 400 tanks in the first day of the war.

After the Yom kippur war, Egypt named the unit that fcked the Israeli tanks, they named the unit "Tank execution unit" , they used this unit in 1977 during the Egyptian-Libyan conflict, in few hours, the unit destroyed 60 Libyan tanks and 40 APCs

Improbable...

Because:

• M20 Super Bazooka (1956-1973)

• SS-10 ATGM (1955-1962)

• M3 Half-track with SS11 (1963-1973)

Military equipment and weapons used by IDF from 1965 to 1991 - Israel Military Forum

SS.10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
SS.11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaПТУР первого поколения в АОИ
ПТУР первого поколения в АОИ

Super Bazooka (mislabeled "SAM-7 shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile") in Batey ha-Osef Museum, Tel-Aviv, Israel.

 

[The SC]

You claimed that Israel crossed over the lake and not over the canal. Which was another of ur stupid lies. The initial crossing was close to lake (not over). Later Israel expanded canal zone to about 15 km.


As I said Suez was defended by units of 19th and 6th divisions (those who did not cross or those who crossed back). It was a large city size of Fallijah or Grozny. There was not a big importance since it was already surrounded. The order was simple: enter the city, if u see strong resistance then retreat. 4 tanks were lost in ambush in the center of the city.


Thats urban legend.

How come they have 40 destroyed Usraeli tanks in the city up till now ...as a testimony to your lies, It means that all you official figures of Usraeli losses of the war were cut to 10 % of the real figures.

 

[Wasteland]

(the air defence was destroyed). ?! keep lying , what a retarded liar !

ISRAEL LOST MORE THAN 300 planes in the 24 days war ! Israel wanted to end the war fast, but when they found they are the ones getting annihilated fast, Golda Meir went and cried to US for support, LOL

Israel lost more than 60 tanks in Suez you little liar ! and more than 180 dead ! and you say 4 tanks ?! what a LIAR !

Yom Kippur War: Embattled Israeli Bridgehead at Chinese Farm

Battle of Suez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Wasteland]

IDF didn't retreat from suez, THEY ESCAPED AND RAN LIKE RATS !

The city was large ?! LOL is that supposed to be an excuse for the humiliation and destruction of the IDF in Suez ?! LOL

Suez is not a large city you liar, guys don't let that liar convince you with his lies, Suez is just a city with an area of just 9 square miles !

Suez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Wasteland]

And the liar is saying capturing Suez was not important ?! what kind of an amateur you are ?! what an ignorant noob, it was critical for the IDF to capture Suez to improve their positions, if it wasn't important you amateur then why did IDF try to capture the city more than 3 times over several days ?! why didn't they escape after the first failed attack ?! but they didn't, they tried 3 times and FAILED ! They got an RPG up their booty's and lost 60 tanks and 120-180 dead. THEN THE IDF COWARDS ESCAPED THE FIGHT

 

[The SC]

The funny part is that some of the Usraelis escaped to a police station to ask for hep!

 

[Wasteland]

The encirclement of the 3rd army was just a TV show, and a huge failure, It is known that this gap strategically was very dangerous to the Israeli army because of the presence of a large number of troops in a very small area of land , in addition to the length of the supply line and the difficulty of evacuating the wounded so Israel agreed quickly to filter the gap because they will not achieve any military objective of it.

Everyone knew it was just a TV show to save their face, all they gained is media benefits lol, they knew they can be easily annihilated in their positions, because they were in a very small area land of land, that's why Israel agreed immediately to the ceasefire to save the troops "circling" the 3rd army from getting annihilated.

The funny part is that some of the Usraelis escaped to a police station to ask for hep!

Looks like this guy will never get tired, he can keep lying and twisting the truths to the next 100 years.

 

[Wasteland]

And the amateur liar is also saying it was not important to capture Suez and Ismailia ! lol, if the IDF captured Ismailia they would have also encircled the 2nd army, it was a very critical goal for the IDF to cap Ismailia and Suez. Israel didn't attack the 3rd army because they know Egyptian army will fck them, so they accepted the ceasefire immediately after they gained enough media coverage to their TV show, or the so called " encirclement of the 3rd army".

 

[The SC]

The encirclement of the 3rd army was just a TV show, and a huge failure, It is known that this gap strategically was very dangerous to the Israeli army because of the presence of a large number of troops in a very small area of land , in addition to the length of the supply line and the difficulty of evacuating the wounded so Israel agreed quickly to filter the gap because they will not achieve any military objective of it.

Everyone knew it was just a TV show to save their face, all they gained is media benefits lol, they knew they can be easily annihilated in their positions, because they were in a very small area land of land, that's why Israel agreed immediately to the ceasefire to save the troops "circling" the 3rd army from getting annihilated.




Looks like this guy will never get tired, he can keep lying and twisting the truths to the next 100 years.

He can't help it, they are brought up and conditioned to be liars and stubborn at that. That is how they feed their disturbed souls and minds. Even if totally defeated they will still claim it as a victory, with the help of big daddies ('cause they have a few from Europe too) propaganda machine, a.k.a the western media which has infiltrated most of the planet's homes.
They also attract kind minded people like one can see in this Forum, who try to rationalize the irrational along with them, showing their true colors of to say it mildly bad faith.
They also attract and try to influence the naive and ignorant people, knowing precisely that the majority of the world's population is uneducated and thus gullible willingly or unwillingly through mind conditioning techniques like the Pavlovian one through repetition of the lies.

 

[500]

How come they have 40 destroyed Usraeli tanks in the city up till now ...as a testimony to your lies, It means that all you official figures of Usraeli losses of the war were cut to 10 % of the real figures.

I am glad that u started reading wikipedia. At least its a sign that u finally decided to learn something.

Alas thats some kid who wrote that Israel lost 40 tanks there. They give reference to Gawrych, but I have his book and he never wrote anything about 40 lost tanks:

And the liar is saying capturing Suez was not important ?! what kind of an amateur you are ?!

Yep it had no importance since city was surrounded. You can see that on maps:

Yom Kippur War 1973: Why did Syria fail to take the Golan Heights? | Page 6

Also confirmed by Gawrych above.

How come they have 40 destroyed Usraeli tanks in the city up till now ...as a testimony to your lies, It means that all you official figures of Usraeli losses of the war were cut to 10 % of the real figures.

I am glad that u started reading wikipedia. At least its a sign that u finally decided to learn something.

Alas thats some kid who wrote that Israel lost 40 tanks there. They give reference to Gawrych, but he never wrote anything about 40 lost tanks.

And the liar is saying capturing Suez was not important ?! what kind of an amateur you are ?!

Yep it had no importance since city was surrounded.

(the air defence was destroyed). ?! keep lying , what a retarded liar !

The air defence umbrella which protected the 3rd army was captured and destroyed quite obviously.

The city was large ?! LOL is that supposed to be an excuse for the humiliation and destruction of the IDF in Suez ?! LOL

I said its size of Fallujah and Grozny. It took more than a month for Russian and US armies to storm them against rag tag militias with huge amount of destruction.

The encirclement of the 3rd army was just a TV show, and a huge failure, It is known that this gap strategically was very dangerous to the Israeli army because of the presence of a large number of troops in a very small area of land

It was 1600 km2. Not small area at all. Also Israel got brand new TOWs which drastically boosted the defence capabilities.

 

[Wasteland]

And there we go again, the liar comes back with new bullshit, i will not waste my time, and you too"The SC" you shouldn't waste your time with someone who says a lie and believes himself.