Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge

[500]

Come On, you are a smart man, you should know better... In the map you posted, the Israeli forces are spread far away from cities, they are just wondering in the desert, does that even make sense ??? The cities are by the Canal, it doesn't make sense to go in the desert were nobody is around you, and where its hard to move, and where you would be far from your supply lines.

When Israelis crossed canal there were two main objectives:

1) Encircle 3rd Egyptian army,
2) Destroy air defence batteries.

Both were achieved. I dont know why you talk about cities. Did you take any cities? Citizes had no any importance.

Encyrcled 3rd army gets supplies after the cease fire:

Captured Egyptian SAMs:

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

When Israelis crossed canal there were two main objectives:

1) Encircle 3rd Egyptian army,
2) Destroy air defence batteries.

Both were achieved. I dont know why you talk about cities. Did you take any cities? Citizes had no any importance.

Encyrcled 3rd army gets supplies after the cease fire:

Captured Egyptian SAMs:

do you know that you tryed to occupay 2 cites and failed ?
if you failed to take 2 small cites while half of the people have left them becouse of war what made you think you can achive anything

about the 3rd army to sourrond the 3rd army you have spread your forces and if the situation continue like that all our artillary air force commandos would have attacked from all sides and dont forget you sourrounded the 3rd army but the force sourrounding the 3rd army was also sourronded
and like i said we had reserves

 

[500]

do you know that you tryed to occupay 2 cites and failed ?
if you failed to take 2 small cites while half of the people have left them becouse of war what made you think you can achive anything

about the 3rd army to sourrond the 3rd army you have spread your forces and if the situation continue like that all our artillary air force commandos would have attacked from all sides and dont forget you sourrounded the 3rd army but the force sourrounding the 3rd army was also sourronded
and like i said we had reserves

Do you know the main rule of blitzcreig? - Attack, if you meet resistance, dont waste time just surround. Thats exactly what Israelis did.

I repeat, did you take any cities?

about the 3rd army to sourrond the 3rd army you have spread your forces and if the situation continue like that all our artillary air force commandos would have attacked from all sides and dont forget you sourrounded the 3rd army

3rd army was left in open desert without water, food, air defence. How long they would last like this?

but the force sourrounding the 3rd army was also sourronded

wut?

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Do you know the main rule of blitzcreig? - Attack, if you meet resistance, dont waste time just surround. Thats exactly what Israelis did.

I repeat, did you take any cities?

our plan is to advance within the couver of our air defence

3rd army was left in open desert without water, food, air defence. How long they would last like this?

they had ther weapons before they die of hunger they could have attacked anyway and to completly sourround them you have your forces in circle around them they could attacked one side elemente it and go back to suez if they attacked with all they have on one side

wut?

you were in our terretory we had the replacican guard units in cairo we had reserves and there was some forces in sudan we could call back

 

[The SC]

Given Israel population, economy, and the its enemies. Israel can NOT fight a long war, the country would collapse, same applies to the economy. America interfered to stop the war, and they did. The whole Egyptian plan by the Great General Shazly was to stay in the postions that Egypt occupied at the begining of the war for months, up to 6 months. Just in a defensive postion. Israel would have collapsed if that was the case. Imagine a country of 3 millios, with most of the population in the army, no factories working, no farming, no production what so ever ect. for 6 months.

That is why Anouar Sadat was assassinated for, he betrayed the Original Army plan and struck a political deal with the US to save Israel. This war was full of deceit and betrayal, it looked like a zig saw to get the Sinai back in a way decided by politicians wearing the Uniform of the supreme command and sacrificing good soldiers with good faith in them on the terrain, for political gains, a game that should have been played much later and from a stronger position, since the capabilities og the egyptian army were proven in the the first 6 hours of the conflict by destroying the myth of the barlev line and the Israeli ego at the same time.
The army was betrayed and lost too many soldiers and material of war by the acceptance of the first cease fire, asked for by Israel and not respected by this same deceitful entity.

 

[500]

our plan is to advance within the couver of our air defence
they had ther weapons before they die of hunger they could have attacked anyway and to completly sourround them you have your forces in circle around them they could attacked one side elemente it and go back to suez if they attacked with all they have on one side

They could not attack. After catastrophe of 14 Oct attack and suicide attack against crossing with elite 25th brigade on 17 Oct they had not any attack strengths.

you were in our terretory we had the replacican guard units in cairo we had reserves and there was some forces in sudan we could call back

Egypt could not do anything against 3 armor divisions.

 

[The SC]

They could not attack. After catastrophe of 14 Oct attack and suicide attack against crossing with elite 25th brigade on 17 Oct they had not any attack strengths.


Egypt could not do anything against 3 armor divisions.

You seem to create your own facts. Egypt started the war with 800 000 soldiers, 3rd army 40 000 soldiers, read my lips!!!!!!
Go back to post #95, and also have a look at videos made by the Egyptians, they seem to be more honest than the others.
You are talking about the apparent truth on the terrain,while ignoring the hidden truths, this is why we are here in this forum.

 

[500]

You seem to create your own facts. Egypt started the war with 800 000 soldiers, 3rd army 40 000 soldiers, read my lips!!!!!!
Go back to post #95, and also have a look at videos made by the Egyptians, they seem to be more honest than the others.
You are talking about the apparent truth on the terrain,while ignoring the hidden truths, this is why we are here in this forum.

All Egyptian attacks against Israeli armor miserably failed:

8 Oct:
Counter attack with 2 mech brigades from 2nd and 16th divisions. Repelled by Amir, Nir and Tuvia.

9 Oct:
Two batallions of 14th armor brigade attack. Repelled by two batallions of Tuvia.

9-10 Oct:
5 massive infantry attacks of 2nd div with armor support. Repelled by Adan.

11 Oct:
Nir brigade destroys 15 T-62 tanks from 15th brigade that attacked his positions.

13th Oct:
Hagai battalion from Baram brigade stops 7th division's probe attack.

14th Oct:
15th armor brigade attacks Balouza, defended by 204 Ram and 11 Peled mech brigades.

24th amor brigade attacks Gonen armor brigade.

1st and 14th armor brigades attack Tasa, defended by Erez and Reshef armor brigades.

11th mech brigade attacks Giddi, defended by Baram armor brigade.

3rd and 22nd armor brigades attack Mitla, defended by Dayan mech and Shomron armor brigades.

250 Egyptian tanks destroyed, 6 destroyed from Israeli side.

17th Oct:
Amir Yoffe battalion from Gabi Amirs brigade stops offensive of 16th div.
Nir brigade supported by Reshef's platoon destroys advancing 25th armor brigade.

18th Oct:
23th armor brigade from strategic reserve attacks Adans forces on west bank. Brigade virtually destroyed.

 

[The SC]

You are talking about recon, not brigades and divisions, the were not formed yet by the 8th of october 1973.

Oops you jumped the 12th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May be you telling the world that Israel could and still can win a war against Egypt.

 

[The SC]

That is why "Israel" keeps the "Samson option" open, now Germany has gifted it with six dolphin submarines for "second strike" capability, and American publicly stated position is to maintain "Israeli" air superiority over all regional countries by any means at all times (which is what 400-450 freely gifted American planes+many more would come in time of actual war with a strong coalition actually manages to do).

No doubt that conventionally Arab countries are far superior to "Israel" but that is where the "superiority" ends because there has not been any Arab unity of any use since many centuries perhaps. Even during 1973 Jordanian king supposedly flew to "Israel" to tell them about the upcoming war, and having multiple centres of command (one for Egypt, one for Syria, etc) and other Arab countries helping in with one or two squadrons of aircraft at most does not change the balance much in times of war.

The Arab world has much potential indeed, but it needs to be realized, with a visionary leadership, with the correct ideology, with united effort to build and outdo the suppliers of "Israel". Besides, I fail to understand why a Jordanian member here (also many Jordanians and other Western allied Arab country nationals) do not have as much problem with "Israel" as with Iran, nor do they have any problems with America despite all its enormous crimes against Arabs and Muslims.

For the Arab Muslims, the ranking for the greatest enemies should be:
1)America/West ("Israel" is nothing in itself, and America/West is totally against Islam as it has proven in the last decade openly, so why do Arab public, not talking about sell out leaders but the public, think those kafir Westerners who dont know their parentage are the Muslim Arabs' allies?)
2)Iranian regime
3)others are less significant like Ethiopia for Egypt etc.

Samson ! you mean the US, is it as suicidal as Samson? let's say they have Massada option.

The rest of what you are saying is right, the Muslim Ummah is in the making, its potential is enormous and Muslims are aware of it, so they are working very hard to achieve their objectives of self reliance in all fields.
The problem with Jews (banou Israel) dates back to our prophet Mohammed and the Koran, they are known for killing prophets and saints, the proof is that they tried to kill Mohammed himself even though they knew and acknowledged his coming from their sacred books.
In Koran it goes back to the beginning of time, and why they were treated as bad people by every civilisation that saw the sun.
Besides all this, they play with religion so much it is appalling, try to read the Torah than the Gematrya than numerology and so many esoteric theories about black and white magic and in the End, God= devil since 666=666.
I do not wish their disappearance, but I wish they'll give up their false believes of superiority (God choose them above all other humans to carry his words of wisdom but they betrayed him many times and opted for gold witch is the financial markets of the world today as money was in gold before ) witch only shows their inferiority complex.There is no need of feeling inferior and projecting it as a superior feeling if you are honest. Honesty brings a serene feeling, a very good feeling indeed.

 

[500]

You are talking about recon, not brigades and divisions, the were not formed yet by the 8th of october 1973.

Oops you jumped the 12th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 14th Oct two Egyptian armies attacked Israeli forces. It ended with 250 destroyed tanks vs. 6 Israeli.

All Egyptian attacks against Israeli armor not simply failed, they failed miserably with huge loses from Egyptian side and minimal loses from Israeli.

May be you telling the world that Israel could and still can win a war against Egypt.

Israel did win 4 wars with Egypt.

they are known for killing prophets and saints

The truth is the opposite: Jews produced more prophets than all other combined.

 

[The SC]

On 14th Oct two Egyptian armies attacked Israeli forces. It ended with 250 destroyed tanks vs. 6 Israeli.

All Egyptian attacks against Israeli armor not simply failed, they failed miserably with huge loses from Egyptian side and minimal loses from Israeli.


Israel did win 4 wars with Egypt.


The truth is the opposite: Jews produced more prophets than all other combined.

You mean the Jews "produce" prophets not God, so prophet hood is "a product" of the Jews.
See, you can not help it, you think only in commercial terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you call war , we call skirmishes , wait till you see war.

You needed American pilots and tank crew commanders and air-planes and tanks and every thing America could send in very huge quantities these are known facts.
The most important fact is what Golda Meier said during the what you call a war.
I will agree with you if you say the US instead of Israel in all your statements.
Otherwise you are lying.

 

[500]

You mean the Jews "produce" prophets not God, so prophet hood is "a product" of the Jews.
See, you can not help it, you think only in commercial terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you call war , we call skirmishes , wait till you see war.

You needed American pilots and tank crew commanders and air-planes and tanks and every thing America could send in very huge quantities these are known facts.
The most important fact is what Golda Meier said during the what you call as war.
I will agree with if you say the US instead of Israel in all your statements.
Otherwise you are lying.

Its funny to see ur frustration and lack of arguments. Theer were no any American pilots or tank crews in Israel. Again the opposite is truth. Here Soviet pilots and SAM crews in Egypt:

Pilots:

SAM crews:

 

[The SC]

Its funny to see ur frustration and lack of arguments. Theer were no any American pilots or tank crews in Israel. Again the opposite is truth. Here Soviet pilots and SAM crews in Egypt:

Pilots:

SAM crews:

You forgot to say, before the skirmish, so you are lying again.
Only a fool will expect you to recognise that you had pilots and tank crews from the US, let alone to show their photos.

 

[King Solomon]

Its funny to see ur frustration and lack of arguments. Theer were no any American pilots or tank crews in Israel. Again the opposite is truth. Here Soviet pilots and SAM crews in Egypt:

Posting big big pictures do not convert a lie into a truth. And the truth is: Israel would have been wiped out in 1973 if US did not intervene.

If that conflict took place today, it would be a different matter altogether though.