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In the beginning, my dear, this [universe] was Being (Sat) alone, one only without a second." (Chandogya Upanishad 6.2.1 also Aitareya Upanishad 1.1.1)

No Muslims do not pray to a stone called Kabba. It is a direction you pray towards, you can pray inside Kabba as well. Before Kabba Muslims used to pray towards Baitul Muqades, located in Jerusalem, (Isreal)

PS: If some one did make Kabba an idol and started claiming it to be god, then that person would start doing sherik and would be among the polytheist, and thus, hell bond..

I know that but you call us pagans so we do the same :no:

I do not need to go Mandir to pray before a Statue I can meditate and seek the divine within me

Brahman is Reality, Knowledge, and Infinity." (Taittiriya Upanishad 2.1.3)

"Brahman is bliss (ananda)." (Taittiriya Upanishad 3.6.1)

"Brahman is Consciousness." Sanskrit: prajnanam brahma. (Aitareya Upanishad 3.1.3)
 
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Brahman goes beyond your simple Abrahamic God it is metaphyics like I said you need to watch that video from Dr Dean Brown

What is Brahman?
In the 'Taittariya Upanishad' II.1, Brahman is described in the following manner: "satyam jnanam anantam brahma", "Brahman is of the nature of truth, knowledge and infinity." Infinite positive qualities and states have their existence secured solely by virtue of Brahman's very reality. Brahman is a necessary reality, eternal (i.e., beyond the purview of temporality), fully independent, non-contingent, and the source and ground of all things. Brahman is both immanently present in the realm of materiality, interpenetrating the whole of reality as the sustaining essence that gives it structure, meaning and existential being, yet Brahman is simultaneously the transcendent origin of all things


You know, I really don't care what you just wrote. But let me enlighten you anyways. When the Prophet of God asked their nation, why they were polytheists and worshiped things other than The God? The polytheists said, they would still continue to practice their traditions which their forefathers used to practice. Their stubbornness resulted in their destruction in this world and the hereafter (hell).

Regardless of what you say to me, in the end you are answerable to God on the day of judgement, and it is hewho would decide whether you would go to hell or heaven. You only get one chance at life, and that's it. You have been warned. Hope you make the right choice.
 
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Anyway I have educated all of you enough for one night if you wish you could make a donation to my charity :smart:

You know, I really don't care what you just wrote. But let me enlighten you anyways. When the Prophet of God asked their nation, why they were polytheists and worshiped things other than The God? The polytheists said, they would still continue to practice their traditions which their forefathers used to practice. Their stubbornness resulted in their destruction in this world and the hereafter (hell).

Regardless of what you say to me, in the end you are answerable to God on the day of judgement, and it is hewho would decide whether you would go to hell or heaven. You only get one chance at life, and that's it. You have been warned. Hope you make the right choice.


Your prophet and concept of hell or heaven means nothing to me we are not Abrahamic we are Dharmic

We do not believe in Judgement day we believe in Moksha (Nirvana) and we do not fear God or Allah we believe in Brahman (Supreme being)
 
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Anyway I have educated all of you enough for one night if you wish you could make a donation to my charity :smart:




Your prophet and concept of hell or heaven means nothing to me we are not Abrahamic we are Dharmic

We do not believe in Judgement day we believe in Moksha (Nirvana) and we do not fear God or Allah we believe in Brahman (Supreme being)

It doesn't matter what it means to you, whether you believe in it or not. It is a reality all humanity would face... It is up to you, what you are gonna do about it. You have been warned...
 
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It doesn't matter what it means to you, whether you believe in it or not. It is a reality all humanity would face... It is up to you, what you are gonna do about it. You have been warned...

Well. We all will find out one day who is correct and who is wrong. You say Hinduism is evil and we say otherwise. I believe that what good/bad we do in our lifetime will be the criteria for going to hell/heaven and not the religion you follow whether it be abrahamic or pagan.

An example: Does a Hindu who prays to all the gods in Hinduism and at the same time dedicates hos whole life to the good of people deserve to go to hell? Would god do such injustice?

It doesn't matter what it means to you, whether you believe in it or not. It is a reality all humanity would face... It is up to you, what you are gonna do about it. You have been warned...

and for your comment abbout hinduism being a pagan religion. read this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arvind-sharma/is-hinduism-a-pagan-relig_b_1245373.html
 
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In the beginning, my dear, this [universe] was Being (Sat) alone, one only without a second." (Chandogya Upanishad 6.2.1 also Aitareya Upanishad 1.1.1)



I know that but you call us pagans so we do the same :no:

I do not need to go Mandir to pray before a Statue I can meditate and seek the divine within me

Brahman is Reality, Knowledge, and Infinity." (Taittiriya Upanishad 2.1.3)

"Brahman is bliss (ananda)." (Taittiriya Upanishad 3.6.1)

"Brahman is Consciousness." Sanskrit: prajnanam brahma. (Aitareya Upanishad 3.1.3)

Just compare the concepts and ideas you mention and relate it to the Islamican mentality - is it any wonder that it's over their head
 
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You know, I really don't care what you just wrote. But let me enlighten you anyways. When the Prophet of God asked their nation, why they were polytheists and worshiped things other than The God? The polytheists said, they would still continue to practice their traditions which their forefathers used to practice. Their stubbornness resulted in their destruction in this world and the hereafter (hell).

Regardless of what you say to me, in the end you are answerable to God on the day of judgement, and it is hewho would decide whether you would go to hell or heaven. You only get one chance at life, and that's it. You have been warned. Hope you make the right choice.

Hindus do not believe in the single life or judgement day paradigm.
 
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It doesn't matter what it means to you, whether you believe in it or not. It is a reality all humanity would face... It is up to you, what you are gonna do about it. You have been warned...

and you have been warned that vishnu will punish you.. and jesus is not happy with your deviant behaviour either.. :cheers:
 
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Why not congrats to Hindu's for inventing Yoga and then distributing it for free all over the world ? :azn: ...........or are you only going to credit 'caste' to Hindus ?



Yoga's practice is now Universal but it origin still remains Hindu.

Calling it 'secular' means not giving credit to its hindu origin and roots. The Hindu philosophy that is part of Yoga.

West has taken the teachings of jesus and has twisted it into something evil. Hindu's are still here to defend yoga and swasthika.

What is Hindu roots? Hinduism is a misnomer for Sanatan Dharma, or universal good. It is ubiquitous and for the universal good. Do you need to credit oxygen and water to any religion? If later faiths carved out the concept of religion, it is their burden to defend their identity. Yoga, and its associated belief system (which we call Hinduism today) has no such burden.
 
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What is Hindu roots? Hinduism is a misnomer for Sanatan Dharma, or universal good. It is ubiquitous and for the universal good. Do you need to credit oxygen and water to any religion? If later faiths carved out the concept of religion, it is their burden to defend their identity. Yoga, and its associated belief system (which we call Hinduism today) has no such burden.

Im afraid you are confused. The fact that Sanatan Dharma allows a seeker multiple paths does not mean that it is unstructured. Yoga is a path to self enlightenment and its methodology has been detailed by sages like Patanjali. It is undoubtedly a Hindu method.
 
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What is Hindu roots? Hinduism is a misnomer for Sanatan Dharma, or universal good. It is ubiquitous and for the universal good. Do you need to credit oxygen and water to any religion? If later faiths carved out the concept of religion, it is their burden to defend their identity. Yoga, and its associated belief system (which we call Hinduism today) has no such burden.

Sanatan Dharma is commonly know as Hinduism. Bharat is commonly know as India .....a rose by any other name.....

It is certainly not ubiquitous, if that was so there would have been no need to teach it to others. No need for the massive literature on philosophies that Hinduism has produced.

I think what you mean to say is it's the universal truth. It explains the nature of the cosmos and the nature of man, much like Einsteins theories.

Identifying the roots, past and history is not a burden but a source of inspiration, pride and provides people with a sense of Identity.
 
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Sanatan Dharma is commonly know as Hinduism. Bharat is commonly know as India .....a rose by any other name.....

It is certainly not ubiquitous, if that was so there would have been no need to teach it to others. No need for the massive literature on philosophies that Hinduism has produced.

I think what you mean to say is it's the universal truth. It explains the nature of the cosmos and the nature of man, much like Einsteins theories.

Identifying the roots, past and history is not a burden but a source of inspiration, pride and provides people with a sense of Identity.

Your first and last sentence beautifully link to my point i.e. Yoga and the term "Hinduism" (used by others to distinguish themselves) predate all religions, and does not require a sense of identity.
 
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Your first and last sentence beautifully link to my point i.e. Yoga and the term "Hinduism" (used by others to distinguish themselves) predate all religions, and does not require a sense of identity.

In a world that is ruled, controlled and occupied by Christians and Muslims It is VERY important to have a sense of Identity, especially if you are neither a christian nor a muslim.

As it is, Hindus are afraid to express their Identity even within India. I have seen posters in pdf that says if Hindus express their Identity it will lead to social unrest and riots !

In a world that shamelessly appropriates all that is good from Hinduisms and leaves behind all that is bad and credits Hinduism with that left over is a world where Hinduism is strangled slowly. Its a disturbing thought, but a reality that not many wishes to see.

A sense of Identity is the only thing that people can cling on to to sustain their faith and keep the knowledge alive.
 
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