Yet another effort to drag in Umpire aka military. latest scheme of Sh. Rasheed

[FaujHistorian]

We will support Pakistan through foreign remittances as some PTIan had said to me earlier.

Its like, do these guys just not understand? How can someone be so stupid and oblivious to the current state of Pakistan?

Foreign remittance do help. there is no question about it.

Think about this way.

you and I are two brothers with our own families and elderly parents to support.

I have a shop in the village. I don't open the shop on time, don't stock it with things in demand, treat my customers badly, spend most of my time away from shop, at home forking my wife, making more babies.

you my brother is working in ME, and you send home money for elderly parents and your own family.

I take a "management" cut out of my brother's (ie you) foreign remittances and buy food for my family and then go make more babies without ever wanting to improve my shop keeping, my own local business.


Now tell me if I am on the right path.
Tell me if the whole Pakistani nation doing the same thing as I do, is on the right path.


Thank you.

 

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getting your secret service to investigate political structure is as stupid as it gets




hope he gets a u turn

 

[Bouncer]

In Pakistan we have a national sport called 'Noora-Kushti' or leg-pulling where our so-called elite is constantly pulling on each others legs without working together for common interests of our nation.

Sorry your definition of Noora Kushti is way off my friend.

Kushti = Wrestling. And in Noora Kushti, both players (wrestlers) rig the game i.e. they put up a show to entertain people, but actually they are working with each other. They give each other chances and do not hit to damage each other. The WWE in the US and Pakistan's 90s' politics are a good example.

Leg pulling is a different sport. And it is among our other more popular sports like Poondi etc.

 

[Hyperion]

You are good! Never seen you here before....

Sorry your definition of Noora Kushti is way off my friend.

Kushti = Wrestling. And in Noora Kushti, both players (wrestlers) rig the game i.e. they put up a show to entertain people, but actually they are working with each other. They give each other chances and do not hit to damage each other. The WWE in the US and Pakistan's 90s' politics are a good example.

Leg pulling is a different sport. And it is among our other more popular sports like Poondi etc.

 

[Bouncer]

You are good! Never seen you here before....

Haha thanks, I have been lurking around

 

[Hyperion]

I like the way you think. Do post more often!

Haha thanks, I have been lurking around

 

[Kambojaric]

“People from MI and the ISI should also sit on the commission,” the PTI leader said.

Right, might as well ask Raheel Shareef to head the commission as well.

“The election commissioner should be someone whom all the political parties of the country have reached a consensus on,” Imran Khan said.

Nobody in their right mind would want to accept that post anymore. The unfortunate news they would have to bring out to PTI would be responded by allegations of that individual being a traitor, a corrupt nooni, a sell out etc etc.

The PTI chairman also said in his speech that if he becomes prime minister all loans from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) would stop.

Populism is wonderful isnt it. When I am in power everything will be hunky dory. Unicorns will run in the fields, the grass will be green, The sun will shine bright. Politicians

 

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"Comprising 10 members, the JIT team is headed by Additional Inspector General Special Branch Dr Arif Mushtaq Chaudhry. The other nine members include representatives of the ISI, MI, IB, police, Special Branch and Counterterrorism Department."
Model Town clash: JIT report suggests police FIR be quashed – The Express Tribune

When the govt constituted a JIT (for Model Town inquiry) including ISI and MI representatives then there is no problem. But if Imran Khan demands such a thing then suddenly democracy is being threatened.

 

[mr.robot]

We will support Pakistan through foreign remittances as some PTIan had said to me earlier.

Its like, do these guys just not understand? How can someone be so stupid and oblivious to the current state of Pakistan?

IMF's program for Pakistan is 6.6 billion USD and it will be released in instalments during 36 months while some tough conditions are met gradually. That is 2.2 billion USD per year. On other hand, in one single year, foreign Pakistanis have pumped almost 16 billion USD in to Pakistan's economy. They are not on government's disposal but they eventually go into our economy.

Obviously, Pakistan's government needs loan for survival in beginning. However, disposing foreign remittance as a useless thing just because some PTI supporter suggested it tells that you are just an anti PTI troll and way more stupid than him.

Pakistan receives $ 15.83 billion remittance: NA told
IMF Survey : Pakistan Gets $6.6 Billion Loan from IMF

 

[mr.robot]

Sh. Rasheed is definitely at his wits end.

For 18 months he egged military to topple civilian gov.

Then he made Ik into his sock puppet, got dharna

Attack on parliament, pm house, TV.

What effort has he not done. And yet civilian gov stays on.

So he now convinces his sock puppet IK to finally divulge the name of the Ik's 'umpire'

And Umpire is?


drum roll
please



...

For IK and Sh. Rasheed, the umpire is ISI.

This is pathetic nay shameful to nth degree. Sh. Rasheed is now trying to drag in military when our military jawans are 110% busy fighting talib-iches and conspiracies of Modi.

So sad to see an oxford educated to become sock puppet of Sh. Rasheed. so sad.






ISI and MI should sit on commission to investigate vote rigging: Imran - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Dawn.com
Updated about 10 hours ago

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan speaking at a rally in Rahim Yar Khan. -Screen grab
RAHIM YAR KHAN: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Sunday said that members of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Military Intelligence (MI) should should sit on a commission headed by the Supreme Court to investigate rigging in the 2013 General Elections, Dawnnews reported.

While addressing a large public gathering in Rahim Yar Khan, the PTI chief said that 2013 General Elections were not conducted in a free and fair manner.

He said that the government should set up the commission to investigate alleged poll rigging by November 30.

“People from MI and the ISI should also sit on the commission,” the PTI leader said.

He said that the commission should take six weeks to conduct its investigation and until then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should not resign.

“If the commission gives the decision that rigging took place, Nawaz Sharif has to hand in his resignation,” Imran Khan said.

He also said that individuals found guilty of rigging should be put on trial under Article 6 of the Constitution.

Imran Khan said that if the government falls, then an impartial Election Commission needs to be formed and that all current members have to resign.

He said that former chief justice Tassaduq Hussain Jillani would be unacceptable as election commissioner because he would not be impartial.

“The election commissioner should be someone whom all the political parties of the country have reached a consensus on,” Imran Khan said.

“We struggled a great deal for an independent judiciary, but it is still not impartial,” the PTI leader said during his speech.

‘I spent spent eight days in jail in Dera Gazi Khan for the independence of the judiciary,” he said.

“A big fraud occurred during the 2013 elections,” he said.

The PTI chairman also said in his speech that if he becomes prime minister all loans from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) would stop.

“People from other countries will come to Pakistan seeking work…If corruption is curbed then the cost of electricity would be halved,” he said



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Your affection for Nawaz Sharif/Hate for P.T.I suggests that you are one of those retired army official who nurtured him till 1999. Were you ADC of General Gillani or in any way involved in making I.J.I. Did you get any funds through Mehran bank? Or you used to be part of Shahbaz Sharif and Nisar's secret meetings with General Kiyani under civilian rule....

 

[Jf Thunder]

I support this. The Pakistani Judicial System's decisions should also be respected by Pakistan's elected legislature. And the agencies of the Executive should uphold and enforce the Judiciary's rulings.

na kar, qasme?

 

[Jazzbot]

"Comprising 10 members, the JIT team is headed by Additional Inspector General Special Branch Dr Arif Mushtaq Chaudhry. The other nine members include representatives of the ISI, MI, IB, police, Special Branch and Counterterrorism Department."
Model Town clash: JIT report suggests police FIR be quashed – The Express Tribune

When the govt constituted a JIT (for Model Town inquiry) including ISI and MI representatives then there is no problem. But if Imran Khan demands such a thing then suddenly democracy is being threatened.

Was about to post same thing but then noticed your post.

 

[Norwegian]

getting your secret service to investigate political structure is as stupid as it gets

They are not going to investigate our political structure, Moodi supporter. They are going to probe rigging allegations and present hard evidence for or against it to the court.

Kushti = Wrestling. And in Noora Kushti, both players (wrestlers) rig the game i.e. they put up a show to entertain people, but actually they are working with each other. They give each other chances and do not hit to damage each other. The WWE in the US and Pakistan's 90s' politics are a good example.

You are right my friend. I know what it really means. If you see 90's politics and later after Musharraf, this Noora-Kushti between PPP and PMLN is quite evident, isn't it? In the public eyes they give statements against each other, and once they are in parliament, they are bhai bhai. What kind of nonsense is that? Funny thing is that people of Pakistan actually buy this sort of crap over and over again!

When the govt constituted a JIT (for Model Town inquiry) including ISI and MI representatives then there is no problem. But if Imran Khan demands such a thing then suddenly democracy is being threatened.

Not democracy, but Noora-Kushti of PPP and PMLN is threatened

On other hand, in one single year, foreign Pakistanis have pumped almost 16 billion USD in to Pakistan's economy. They are not on government's disposal but they eventually go into our economy.
Obviously, Pakistan's government needs loan for survival in beginning. However, disposing foreign remittance as a useless thing just because some PTI supporter suggested it tells that you are just an anti PTI troll and way more stupid than him.

You think I am a stupid PTI troll? Thanks I didn't know anti PTI trolls were even more stupid than me

Do you want PAKISTANIs to also work in factory for 20 hours a day just to fuel economy?

No, but at least they should have a workplace to go to. Unofficial unemployment in Pakistan is at least 40 % or more.

Dumb PTI logic. Pakistan will stop functioning if we stop taking loans from IMF and WB.

LOL! Since 1947 if we are surviving on IMF and WB loans, why did we fight for independence in the first place?

Based on our budget historically, we have a shortfall of $5-15 billion of hard cash every year. This shortfall is fulfilled using American and American supported funding sources like IMF.

And the debt on our children and grandchildren only grows each year. Is that what you want, fauji? Why not adjust the budget according to our income, instead pumping further our corrupt leaders lavish lifestyles? What poor nation's leaders live in billion dollar castles anymore or have assets abroad worth billions of dollars? Why not query to bring our 200 billion dollar stolen tax money back from foreign banks per IK demands?

So how the fork we can support a country of 200 million people whose primary source of dollars (other than US +IMF) is labor remittances and meager exports of rice and cotton.

Just take more loans with interests? Funny Fauji logic. Soon our entire armed forces would be running on foreign aid. What a joke!

London plan was a fact.

Prove it or leave it. Wasn't rigging a fact too?

 

[FaujHistorian]

IMF's program for Pakistan is 6.6 billion USD and it will be released in instalments during 36 months while some tough conditions are met gradually. That is 2.2 billion USD per year. On other hand, in one single year, foreign Pakistanis have pumped almost 16 billion USD in to Pakistan's economy. They are not on government's disposal but they eventually go into our economy.

Obviously, Pakistan's government needs loan for survival in beginning. However, disposing foreign remittance as a useless thing just because some PTI supporter suggested it tells that you are just an anti PTI troll and way more stupid than him.

Pakistan receives $ 15.83 billion remittance: NA told
IMF Survey : Pakistan Gets $6.6 Billion Loan from IMF

No one is diposing that yaara.

If you need $10 to buy your lunch that is already the cheapest deal available, and your little brother gave you $8, you still need to borrow $2 or go hungry.

Do the maths pleases.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Your affection for Nawaz Sharif/Hate for P.T.I suggests that you are one of those retired army official who nurtured him till 1999. Were you ADC of General Gillani or in any way involved in making I.J.I. Did you get any funds through Mehran bank? Or you used to be part of Shahbaz Sharif and Nisar's secret meetings with General Kiyani under civilian rule....

Nothing personal yaar.

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