Y Pak army dont want war with India as India want war with Pak. Its most strategist question

[Maxpane]

war is only bloodshed . no sane person wants war . it only brings destruction . peace is the only solution

 

[Shajida Khan]

what India achieved in 1971? breaking Pakistan and making another Islamic state Bangladesh? is this your strategy? we break India into two pieces in 1947 and make a safe place for Muslims and even Pak was created before India.this is the most humiliating words for any Indian.

Islamic is not a problem for India. The problem was a east west pincer. We reduced pakistan population by half. Deprived them of an eastern front. Now we have good influence on BD's policies as well. We are working on an alternative path to our seven north eastern states which fills our vulnerability of 'Chicken's Neck'. This path will go through BD. Would it have been possible if BD were east Pakistan? I doubt it. Not too shabby for India.

 

[Mugwop]

indian politicians and their keyboard warrior supporters talk about wars but in reality get scared by a simple fist fight

 

[jzeebravo]

Islamic is not a problem for India. The problem was a east west pincer. We reduced pakistan population by half. Deprived them of an eastern front. Now we have good influence on BD's policies as well. We are working on an alternative path to our seven north eastern states which fills our vulnerability of 'Chicken's Neck'. This path will go through BD. Would it have been possible if BD were east Pakistan? I doubt it. Not too shabby for India.

Pakistan in 1971 was still far smaller than India, it was your historical complex (deeply embeded from the events of the previous millennia), a mere figment of your imagination, that was a two-front war. East Pakistan never had the military prowess to ensure that possibility, its air force and armoured columns were quite insufficient when compared to the West Pakistan. In 1948 and throughout the border skirmishes uptill the war of 1965, this Indian establishment's theory only proved to be nothing but a paranoia - even during the 1963 Indo-China war, India was worried if Pakistan would open its front, but we did not despite doing militarily and economically far better than India.

What happened in 1971 has a far-reaching impact, you have antagonized your eastern front till eternity. Your helped forged an alliance that probably wouldn't have existed in its current state had there been no 1971. Pakistan then helped the red dragon to reach out and open up to the Western world and contributed with its part to help them become a major world power four-decades later. This alliance has encircled you from your entire east to entire north and north-east and in the process choking all the natural and historical trade routes of mother India, something that has not happened in history - with China loooming large in the North-East, your Chicken neck is far more vulnerable than ever before, seven-sister states issue in this scenario can only become a trivial issue.

I am not suggesting that an Indo-Pak war would involve China (unless you try to attack Gilgit-Baltistan) so practically a 2-front war is out of the question but lo and behold, since the historical complexes still exist in the Indian mindset your Chief of Army Staff Bipin Rawat came up with idea of 2.5 front war - so 1971 took nothing away from Indian psyche and while further deteriorating the geo-strategic situation for India.

 

[Imran Khan]

ok lets say we have war then ? how long we can fight ? humans must learn to be civilized .

 

[Verve]

Indians are forgetting the ultimatum Zia gave at Delhi airport, and the result ...

 

[Joe Shearer]

We are a peaceful country.

That's the reason no one WANTS a war with anyone.

But people simply take it for granted.

Someday India will get its wish when our tolerance runs out

You mean it was in a tolerant, sensitive kind of way that your Army shoved three wars at us? Interesting take on tolerance.

 

[El Sidd]

You mean it was in a tolerant, sensitive kind of way that your Army shoved three wars at us? Interesting take on tolerance.

Not my problem if India needs a war every ten years to stop from crumbling.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not my problem if India needs a war every ten years to stop from crumbling.

You mean your shoving a war on us boils down to our needing a war? You were just obliging us with our hearts' desire? Wow.

If India was to wage total war on Pakistan, make no mistake about it, Pakistan has enough firepower to turn the entire Ganga into a sea of fire!!!!!

True, true.

You keep doing it. Very impressive.

 

[El Sidd]

You mean your shoving a war on us boils down to our needing a war? You were just obliging us with our hearts' desire? Wow.

Yes.
That's why your whole political rhetoric is based on anti Pakistan sentiments.

You would need a war soon enough. And this time we will say no.

Enjoy keeping India united without its boogeyman in Pakistan.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Times of changed, so has the strategies of war have changed as well.

Will someone in Pakistan help me buy a Wren and Martin? Or does Amazon do deliveries there?

indian politicians and their keyboard warrior supporters talk about wars but in reality get scared by a simple fist fight

You were going to hit one of us? That's scary.

Pakistan in 1971 was still far smaller than India, it was your historical complex (deeply embeded from the events of the previous millennia), a mere figment of your imagination, that was a two-front war. East Pakistan never had the military prowess to ensure that possibility, its air force and armoured columns were quite insufficient when compared to the West Pakistan. In 1948 and throughout the border skirmishes uptill the war of 1965, this Indian establishment's theory only proved to be nothing but a paranoia - even during the 1963 Indo-China war, India was worried if Pakistan would open its front, but we did not despite doing militarily and economically far better than India.

What happened in 1971 has a far-reaching impact, you have antagonized your eastern front till eternity. Your helped forged an alliance that probably wouldn't have existed in its current state had there been no 1971. Pakistan then helped the red dragon to reach out and open up to the Western world and contributed with its part to help them become a major world power four-decades later. This alliance has encircled you from your entire east to entire north and north-east and in the process choking all the natural and historical trade routes of mother India, something that has not happened in history - with China loooming large in the North-East, your Chicken neck is far more vulnerable than ever before, seven-sister states issue in this scenario can only become a trivial issue.

I am not suggesting that an Indo-Pak war would involve China (unless you try to attack Gilgit-Baltistan) so practically a 2-front war is out of the question but lo and behold, since the historical complexes still exist in the Indian mindset your Chief of Army Staff Bipin Rawat came up with idea of 2.5 front war - so 1971 took nothing away from Indian psyche and while further deteriorating the geo-strategic situation for India.

What is your point, actually? That you lost the war and won the peace? It's a difficult read.

Indians are forgetting the ultimatum Zia gave at Delhi airport, and the result ...

Really? Zia delivered an ultimatum? And it's stayed concealed in your bosom until now? Must say you are good at keeping secrets.

Yes.
That's why your whole political rhetoric is based on anti Pakistan sentiments.

You would need a war soon enough. And this time we will say no.

Enjoy keeping India united without its boogeyman in Pakistan.

So what our idiots in charge did from 2014 gives you the chance to generalise it to the other 68 years? do you read what you write before posting?

 

[Politico]

Yes.
That's why your whole political rhetoric is based on anti Pakistan sentiments.

You would need a war soon enough. And this time we will say no.

Enjoy keeping India united without its boogeyman in Pakistan.

Jumah Mubarak Hamid. Are you claiming that India and Pakistan kind of prearrange these wars ?

 

[El Sidd]

So what our idiots in charge did from 2014 gives you the chance to generalise it to the other 68 years? do you read what you write before posting?

Generalise?

I only wish you lot were a bit more creative.

Be it mukti bahani or the failed 62 forward policy. It's always your trusted boogeyman which has saved you.

2014 is irrelevant. Had it been Modi in 2011 it would have been a different debate today.

As I said. Go unite India without Pakistan and if you can do pat yourself in the back.

You will implode on who and what killed Gandhi or who sent Bose where on what.

Jumah Mubarak Hamid. Are you claiming that India and Pakistan kind of prearrange these wars ?

Jummah mubarak Mr Lyal.

Well.......

Its like when India makes a booboo at home it starts a war with Pakistan.

62 failure followed 65
65 was followed by 71

99 remains in my books a 84 gone wrong or the unnecessary war

 

[PakBlood]

Pak army does not want fight too often with one same enemy,
Because by doing that, Pak Army could teach her all of the tricks of war to one same enemy.
Change of enemy is best strategy for any army ... India should has to change her enemy as well and they should try to war with Japan, Australia or Korea to leran good war tactics as these countries are advance and can bring good for Indian army.
Therefore Pak army has took away its attention on India and are busy with US army on westren boarder.

Here I can share one of war trick of Indian Army!
This trick was not exactly used during a war, rather during the preparation of war.
They used it to launch war..
1965 Indo-Pak war ended in a stale-mate and next war was not far away to settle the issues. Late 1960s saw a increased protest from East Pakistan for freedom. The major issue between East and West Pakistan was language problem.India saw a opportunity in it and decided to help East Pakistan get freedom. It would have not only divided the Pakistan into 2 parts...


what are most common War tricks of Pak army???


It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try...Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again for Pak army, if they won , they could not try again, If India has won, Y r they trying again?, this time Pak Army will do more intelligently.

Some argue that we are already at war with India, this is not occuring in a direct manner, but rather through the use of proxy forces active not only in each others' countries(see Kashmir and Balochistan) but also in neighboring ones such as Afghanistan, This has been termed "5th Generation Warfare" and it is said that in the future nations will fight against rebels and insurgents controlled by enemies in foreign states.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Generalise?

I only wish you lot were a bit more creative.

So do I, so do I. Any tips? Nobody on this forum more creative than you, so perhaps I can pick up some moves from you.

Be it mukti bahani or the failed 62 forward policy. It's always your trusted boogeyman which has saved you.

I always told those idiots that marching on Islamabad through Lhasa was going to be tough. You spotted it too, did you?

2014 is irrelevant. Had it been Modi in 2011 it would have been a different debate today.

There's the creativity. It's such a pleasure watching a class act.

As I said. Go unite India without Pakistan and if you can do pat yourself in the back.

We couldn't. India fell apart. I'm sitting in the independent city of Hyderabad, surrounded by zillions of blood-thirsty Telingas. Can you lend us some creativity?

You will implode on who and what killed Gandhi or who sent Bose where on what.

On the first, it wasn't a malfunctioning ambulance. On the second, it wasn't a battlefield replacement that cost us a war.