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Writer Umera Ahmed Says Her "Dhoop ki Diwaar" Script Was Approved by ISPR

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You have Hollywood "American made" movies which many times completely destroyed White House in them, major monuments and cities. Generals, Ministers even Vice presidents acting as state enemies destroying USA. You see them burning their flags and what now. Similarly in Bollywood you have movies like Aiyer which show corruption in top ranking officers (general ranks) of Indian army . And it was a success in India. Similarly another John Abraham movie where they shown many Raw agents being killed by China in the first scene.

I have not watched Dhoop ki dewaar neither I read the book. But I think we should be more open towards media. These books, serials, movies means nothing. They don't damage your patriotisms. They are just a mean of business and that's it...

The difference is that those hollywood movies are not supported by pentagon. This project went ahead after approval and support of ISPR and even writer was called for a meeting.
 
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A soldier doesn't and shouldn't talk about peace. That is not his job. There are enough diplomats and politicians to do that. If a soldier talks peace while it's opponent is least interested in it then there is something wrong with him

So Musharraf talking peace about Kashmir was... ?
 
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India kept Junagarh because 80% were Hindus while ignoring the fact that Nawan acceded it to Pakistan but Ignore the same fact in Kashmir where majority were muslims but their raja acceded to India. This is actually hypocrisy.

i just said the same. you are repeating my words. just this time from Indian perspective.

Pakistan want Kashmir because it had Muslim population, but still made a claim on junagarh even though it was majority hindu ( we even have a government in exile of junagadh in Pakistan).

India wanted Junagadh because population was hindu but still made a claim on Kashmir even though it waas majority Muslim...

You see, i never sided with India. i just pointed the obvious. no one should be criticizing this author for pointing the obvious. both parties are simultaneously right and wrong. and thats what have been said and written, approved by ISPR, so what's the issue and harm now ?

@Ace of Spades
 
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That was useless too

And time proved it was useless

If his four-point formula for Kashmir was agreed upon by the diplomats, politicians, militaries and commoners on both sides then the civilian deaths and attacks and other things in that region wouldn't have occurred.

One article on that here.
 
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If his four-point formula for Kashmir was agreed upon by the diplomats, politicians, militaries and commoners on both sides then the civilian deaths and attacks and other things in that region wouldn't have occurred.

One article on that here.

It was a useless practice

Turned out in the end it was useless and not practical
 
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How can you say that when it wasn't even implemented ?
does that alone not validate its absurdity?
the fact that stable government of both countries enjoying absolute internal freedom couldn't pull through?
now this plan will be known as traitor plan.

your peacekeeping is more of an economical challenge than war
 
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and some morons dont have a counter arguments or the guts to just accept existence of an alternate opinion... and you are an "elite member" here, no wonder PDF is going down the drain for Past 2-3 years.
Your comment was so stupid and braindead it didn't warrant any counter argument. And I'm not even one bit surprised ghalib the infamous modi bakht liked your post.
India kept Junagarh because 80% were Hindus while ignoring the fact that Nawan acceded it to Pakistan but Ignore the same fact in Kashmir where majority were muslims but their raja acceded to India. This is actually hypocrisy.
Some people are too primitive to form complex thoughts. In their world everything is black and white if God forbid they come across something unusual it's either hypocrisy or conspiracy by powerful tribal chiefs.
 
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does that alone not validate its absurdity?

If you read my linked article it says that it was the then BJP leader LK Advani who sabotaged the proposal. But Advani mellowed down in later years and called Jinnah a secular man which resulted in the ostracizing of Advani in his party.

And there was also the hostile attitude of Syed Ali Shah Geelani a separatist in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Advani ( of then ) and Geelani. It was probably them who derailed the Musharraf proposal.

the fact that stable government of both countries enjoying absolute internal freedom couldn't pull through?

Lot of governments are stable but that doesn't mean their actions are legitimate. But Musharraf tried.

now this plan will be known as traitor plan.

So Musharraf speaking of peace should mean that he's a traitor ? Does that mean that a Pakistani general promising 100 year enmity against India is a supreme patriot ?

Because without solving core issues such measures are always bound to fail

Please read that linked article. It refers to such issues.
 
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You see, i never sided with India. i just pointed the obvious. no one should be criticizing this author for pointing the obvious. both parties are simultaneously right and wrong. and thats what have been said and written, approved by ISPR, so what's the issue and harm now ?


Watch the trailer again; and listen to the carefully choreographed language used. Terror attack for freedom fighters, shaheed for Indian hindu soldier, love affair between two. Dushman ka dukh is similar to ours? an occupying force? That's just for what's in the trailer. Again; this is war of narratives, i would've had no issue if it was a private aman ki asha seeking media content. But i would repeat again; this is ISPR supported and approved project.

The kids of punjabis, pushtoons, sindhis, baloch, urdu speakers, gilgitis and kashmiris are dying on LOC and here the media wing of the armed forces is propagating India's narratives. Bravo. And they chose the plot to be around Kashmir cause. Sure!!
 
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If you read my linked article it says that it was the then BJP leader LK Advani who sabotaged the proposal. But Advani mellowed down in later years and called Jinnah a secular man which resulted in the ostracizing of Advani in his party.

And there was also the hostile attitude of Syed Ali Shah Geelani a separatist in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Advani ( of then ) and Geelani. It was probably them who derailed the Musharraf proposal.
I am least interested in what derailed the Indian side but a random Pakistani would have derailed Mushraffs plan.
legitimate. But Musharraf
Irony Jamahir irony
So Musharraf speaking of peace should mean that he's a traitor ? Does that mean that a Pakistani general promising 100 year enmity against India is a supreme patriot ?

Actions speak louder than words.
love affair between two.
thats promoting criminal behaviour. it is not permissible for Pakistani Muslim women to marry a non Muslim by law and constitution.

rest can be argued for as rhetoric or propaganda
 
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Before I take a position, I would like to see the script actually submitted to ISPR and what parts of the script were actually reviewed and 'OK'd' by ISPR

Did ISPR review the script solely from the perspective of how accurate military details (uniforms, language, etc) were and whether the script did or did not include anything that would be considered a risk from an operational standpoint?

In my view, outside of an ISPR production, the above should be the only role ISPR has when asked to provide views on a 'script'. ISPR is not Pakistan's censor board, it should NOT have the ability to veto films or TV shows because of a disagreement over the story line.
 
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