World Media and Hysteria Over Pakistan's Collapse

[warrior_pk]

Furthermore, NW is controlled by Haqqanis, who are not threatening the Pakistani state. Hence as far as any threat to the Pakistani state is concerned, NW is not a serious issue at this point. It was TTP that was doing that, and they don't control any substantial areas anymore.

And well all know where TTP takes their marching orders from......

 

[JanjaWeed]

although i don't subscribe to what mr cohen had to say on the whole, there are few alarming situations in the country which needs to be addressed with immediate effect, such as rise in radicalism, economic downturn, political instability, growing influence of outside forces in internal matters, general well being & security of ordinary citizens of the country, to name a few. if one fails to control these issues it could be the real recipe for distaster.

 

[ares]

BTW, as expected, the MQM is back in the coalition, and even Sharifs backtracked on his 'ultimatum' and said he wanted the GOP to finish its term.

But not before GOP gave into their blackmail by not implementing tougher economic measures...as is need of the hour.

 

[Nothing]

How will India benefit from a disintegration of Pakistan then having bragging rights? Look how a hostile neighbour, turned Pakistan around.

I would like a slow but peaceful rising Pakistan, then a disintegrated one.

How you will benefit if your neighbor will break his wall or if he will set his house on fire .....

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

But not before GOP gave into their blackmail by not implementing tougher economic measures...as is need of the hour.

Need of the hour is to financillly not burden the masses and gather there support against the retard ideology.Financial constraints give rise to crime and instability. That is why gov had to accept there bidding.Rest assured it proves democratic setup will remain intact and hence no disintegration sort of BS is even far in sight ...!!!

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

How is the threat from the Taliban far greater now than when Bhutto was assassinated, given that the Taliban are much weaker now, and essentially have control of only one Tribal agency, NW, unlike in 2008 when they physically controlled large parts of FATA and Swat?

But according to wikipedia, from 2008 to 2010, the taliban has gone stronger in number terms, more then treble the force it had in 2008.

Here is a link of all major terrorist attacks in 2010, when USA has been involved in the battle against talibans, then they influence have dropped, but not sure on casualties. List of terrorist incidents in Pakistan since 2001 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[logic]

Rant on

Let Delhi hear it Pakistan Lives
Let the World hear it Pakistan lives

Rant off

If you re phrase the topic we could end up saying Road to Disintegration of Asian fools too stupid to be played around by others.

For Example British Ruled Supreme in Indian Sub-continent and dealt a similar kind of effect on china but china had Japan too on its case so in the End India Pakistan fight among each other while having getting over the imperial UK and now all three have very good relations with UK.

Pakistan China and India need Massive Infrastructure Development and softening of borders. We will need massive projects in the filed of petroleum connecting the above mentioned countries.

We need Fast Rail and road links from Gwadar to Multan to Delhi and connecting it to china's rail network. Lets Build. We have the capability to build a more thriving region the likes of which the world ain't seen in a mere decade. Transporting Sino Sub-continent products right to the door step of Middle east and Europe.

Indian China Pakistan should unite and tolerate each other and improve the living conditions in our respective countries population.

Education should be top of the agenda. Lets Build a better World. Peace

 

[ares]

Need of the hour is to financillly not burden the masses and gather there support against the retard ideology.Financial constraints give rise to crime and instability. That is why gov had to accept there bidding.Rest assured it proves democratic setup will remain intact and hence no disintegration sort of BS is even far in sight ...!!!

What you don't realize is..Pakistani govt has spent in excess of its budget ..nobody outside Pakistan ready to lend it to pakistan, as long as it does not implement economic reforms..hence invariably this money will have to be generate from inside ..now there are two ways of generating it.

To increases the prices(taxes) of targeted commodities..eg certain commodities used only by reasonably well off people eg fuel and implement VAT or GST such that economy become documented and industry which were evading taxes come under tax net.

or

Print more notes to satisfy the budget short fall..which will lead to increase in prices of all commodities..and masses(irrespective of their financial status) of pakistan will have to pay through their noses.

And at that time ..opposition parties will come out as good and the govt as bad guys..as on the surface opposition parties did not let govt increase the prices to implement economic reforms..yet prices have increased.

 

[MadDog]

In 1947...when offices in pakistan didnt have pens to write....these people said that pakistan will disintegrate, in 1980's they said when soviets came into afghanistan that pakistan will disintegrate,....in 1990's they said the same BS....and now they are saying the same.

They couldnt even disintegrate the countries under their control like iraq and afghanistan...as they had planned to divide Iraq into Sunni, Shia and Kurdish countries and states...and same was being planned for afghanistan...but they have failed till now...all they can do is whine !!!!

 

[ajtr]

India and Pakistan on the brink​

Everything is going right these days for India, except for one big problem: It is living next to a Pakistan that is coming apart politically, and Indian leaders insist with a tone of resignation that there's nothing they can do about it.

Starting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, top Indian officials know that their booming democracy is endangered by the growing chaos across the border. They say that they're willing to revive back-channel negotiations with Islamabad to resolve the long-festering problem of Kashmir. They favor confidence-building measures to reduce the risk of war between these two nuclear-armed nations.

And then, in the next breath, Indian officials insist that such positive steps won't make any difference. The Pakistani military doesn't want any reduction in tensions, they argue. The civilian government is crumbling and incapable of making a deal. Even Singh, long an advocate of better relations with Pakistan, is said to have concluded that hopes for better relations are "wishful thinking."

A few hundred miles away in Islamabad, you'd hear the same bleak message from Pakistani military and political leaders. Yes, they know that the immediate threat to Pakistan is from Islamic militants, not India. Yes, they know that restoring a back-channel dialogue with New Delhi might ease tensions. But no, they don't see any way to step back from the brink. The Indians, in their view, are conspiring to undermine Pakistan.

Welcome to the world's most dangerous zero-sum game. The sad fact is that India and Pakistan, separated at birth in 1947, are locked in what seems like a blood feud. You hear the same language of suspicion in prosperous New Delhi that you do in embattled Islamabad.

This is a problem that might seem ripe for U.S. mediation. Washington has close ties with both countries, after all, and it could act as an honest broker on issues such as Kashmir, which is ruled by India but claimed by both countries. But Indians say that American intervention could just make matters worse - poisoning public opinion against any deal that emerged.

The Indians watch Pakistan's political instability with grim resignation. The root problem, they argue, is that the Pakistani military is unwilling to sever its links with Islamic terrorists. Until the Pakistanis break this insurgency, they will be at its mercy. Dialogue with India won't make any difference, they insist.

"The last thing we want to see is Pakistan slide into instability," says one top Indian official, but he cautions that there is little that India or America can do. "It's Pakistan's internal problem. And that, we can't fix."

As India celebrates its own economic success, there is a slight tone of South Asian schadenfreude about Pakistan's troubles. "There is one school of thought that says, 'If they [the Pakistanis] are committing suicide, then you don't have to murder them,'" the top official concedes. "But the consequences of that are horrible."

I came away from these discussions feeling that Indian leaders are being shortsighted: If Pakistan descends further into violence and chaos, India will suffer from the fallout. And with these two bitter rivals, there is always the risk of nuclear war. If I were a newly prosperous Indian, I'd want to help my ailing neighbor as a matter of self-protection.

But try making that argument to Indian officials. "You have to recognize that some problems can't be solved," counsels one prominent Indian. Officials here don't want American mediation, and they think outreach to Pakistan won't do any good. Meanwhile, the South Asian tinderbox keeps on getting hotter.

 

[Shak]

Show us some sign and hang 26/11 master minds.

 

[moha199]

With all due respect, stop blaming Pakistan but blame yourself, Indian politicians are really wack, haha In 2007 they were saying they don't wanna deal with dictator and army when army was actually there to solve the problems between two countries but now they are using excuse that political government is not stable! my message cut it bro, you guys only make excuses! When army is ready you wanna talk to political forces when political forces are ready you make an excuse saying oh army wouldn't approve of it! it's sad that who are they fooling? hmm them self and their people, what are they showing Pakistani people? hmm that INDIA will never want to fix problems herself and want to remain enemy or lighter word, hostile to Pakistan

 

[jayron]

With all due respect, stop blaming Pakistan but blame yourself, Indian politicians are really wack, haha In 2007 they were saying they don't wanna deal with dictator and army when army was actually there to solve the problems between two countries but now they are using excuse that political government is not stable! my message cut it bro, you guys only make excuses! When army is ready you wanna talk to political forces when political forces are ready you make an excuse saying oh army wouldn't approve of it! it's sad that who are they fooling? hmm them self and their people, what are they showing Pakistani people? hmm that INDIA will never want to fix problems herself and want to remain enemy or lighter word, hostile to Pakistan

Both Mushraff and the Indian government have acknowledged that they has almost reached to a solution for the Kashmir issue in 2007. It is unfortunate that it didn't succeed and Mushraff had to quit. But honestly, do you think Kashmir will solve all your problems? Your country will still have all those strategic assets and we will still be your perceived enemy.

 

[flameboard]

India will not attack, aside from the obvious destruction of both countries, first of all it will unify a bond between Pakistanis stronger than the one seen today. It will rid Pakistan of terrorists and fill India with them. These terrorists will no longer see Pakistan as an enemy, and will destroy India from the inside out. The world is very unstable right now and within a month the war will be stopped due to international pressure, and India will loose all the foreign investment it was getting because war bring with it a bad economy and unsafe streets due to terrorists, and probably delay any chances India has of becoming a superpower, standing up to China or getting a seat in the security council. It will do India more harm than Pakistan, a war with India could potentially rescue Pakistan, from many of the problems it's facing today.

But I hope it doesn't come to that.

Nukes will not be used because no ones uses them anymore and if one side uses them, humanitarian activists and organizations will close down the country like there's no tomorrow, and countries will impose sanctions on any country using them.

 

[Ignited Mind]

If Pakistan descends further into violence and chaos, India will suffer from the fallout.

How exactly?

A stable Pakistan is not in India's interest so why should we bother?