World leaders back one-China policy

[Dungeness]

That was why so many of them died, and in the end, for nothing because both Viet Nam and China went the American way -- capitalism.

Maybe, but you should never underestimate their willingness to die for their country.

Whatever system they have is their choice. By the same logic, USSR could have also claimed they are the victor of the cold war as US has a socialist system in place----Social Security.

 

[Kompromat]

How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

White House reaffirms One China policy after Trump's conversation with Taiwan leader
Sat, 3 Dec 2016-09:15pm , Washington , PTI

The White House has reaffirmed its backing for the policy that recognises Beijing as the sole government of "One China" after President-elect Donald Trump risked Chinese ire by calling the leader of Taiwan, in a break with US norms.

"There is no change to our longstanding policy on cross-Strait issues," National Security spokeswoman Emily Horne told AFP. "We remain firmly committed to our 'one China' policy based on the three Joint Communiques and the Taiwan Relations Act. Our fundamental interest is in peaceful and stable cross-Strait relations."

China today lodged a protest with the US over President-elect Donald Trump's unprecedented telephone talk with Taiwanese leader Tsai Ing-wenz, asking Washington to honour its commitment for One-China policy.

"China has lodged solemn representations with the US, urging the US to honour its commitment to the One-China policy," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said today. "We have taken note of the relevant reports and made solemn representations about it to the relevant US side. It must be pointed out that there is only one China in the world. Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory," he said.

The Government of the People's Republic of China (PRC) is the sole legitimate government representing China, which is a fact recognised by the international community, he said. The One-China principle is the political foundation of Sino-US relations, he said.

"We urge the relevant parties in the US to abide by the commitment to the One-China policy and abide by the principles of the three Sino-US joint communiques, and to handle the Taiwan issue with caution and care to avoid unnecessarily interfering with the overall situation of Sino-US relations," he said in comments posted on the Foreign Ministry website. Geng's appeal to "relevant parties" came after reports that Trump bypassed US State Department in talking to Tsai.

Apparently the call came from the Taiwanese President, who is adversely viewed by China as she was elected early this year on anti-China platform. Earlier today, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi played down Trump's telephone talk with Tsai, dismissing it as a "small trick by Taiwan" that cannot change the One-China framework or damage Sino-US ties. "I do not think it will change the One-China policy that the US government has insisted on applying over the years," Wang said, Hong Kong-based Phoenix TV reported.

"The One-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged," Wang said after Trump spoke to Tsai, a striking break with decades of US diplomatic practice not to directly speak with Taiwan leader. While Trump's call caught China by surprise, Wang's quick reaction played down expectations of a strong reaction from Beijing which wants to establish full contacts with Trump administration after he formally takes over power next month.

Like most of the countries in the world, US too pursued a so-called "One-China" policy since 1979, when it shifted its diplomatic recognition by formally recognising People s Republic of China (PRC) instead of Taiwan which broke off with mainland in 1949 after the formation of the PRC. However, US continues to maintain low-key contacts with Taiwan including supplying military hardware to it.

China is trying to open up its channels with Trump as President Xi Jinping yesterday met former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who is widely regarded as part of back channel diplomacy between both the countries. In his meeting with Kissinger, Xi said China hopes for sustained, healthy and stable ties with the US. He said the mutual benefits of relations between the two countries outweigh their differences, and China is willing to work with the US for a smooth transition following last month's presidential election.

Xi said China and the US should continuously promote the new type of major power relations, and strengthen their coordination on international affairs. Kissinger, a regular visitor to China, said the US-China relationship is important to the two countries, as well as the world as a whole. He hoped he can keep playing an active role in boosting the relationship. "As a trailblazer for China-US ties, Kissinger paid a secret visit to China in 1971 which paved way for the establishment of China-US diplomatic ties in 1979," state-run Xinhua said in its report on Xi-Kissinger meeting.

A statement from Trump's transition team said he spoke with Tsai, who offered her congratulations. Trump tweeted later: "The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!" The Taiwanese presidential office also issued a statement saying Trump and Tsai discussed issues affecting Asia and the future of US relations with Taiwan.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/repor...ump-s-conversation-with-taiwan-leader-2279385

 

[grey boy 2]

3 reaffirmations within a week has broken some day dreamers hearts LOL

 

[SBUS-CXK]

3 reaffirmations within a week has broken some day dreamers hearts LOL

So I never seriously treat Trump's mouth.
Even though I was supporting him.

 

[maximuswarrior]

3 reaffirmations within a week has broken some day dreamers hearts LOL

I wouldn't take Obama's word seriously anymore. Trump needs to be taken seriously, but he also needs to be reminded that not recognizing one China will be disastrous. Just to send a firm message.

 

[LeGenD]

How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?

Sir, we should be neutral on this issue (domestically and policy-wise). No need to stir hornet's nest. If Taiwan gains independence in the future and is recognized by UN, this would create a new headache for our foreign policy. Neutrality grants us flexibility in approaching these kind of issues.

 

[T-Rex]

Donald Trump questions 'one China' policy
President-elect Donald Trump says the US is ready to abandon the policy, unless China agrees to a trade deal.


US President-elect Donald Trump has said the United States does not necessarily have to stick to its long-standing position that Taiwan is part of "one China," questioning nearly four decades of policy in a move angering Beijing.

Trump's comments on "Fox News Sunday" came after he prompted a diplomatic protest from China over his decision to accept a telephone call from Taiwan's president on December 2.

"I fully understand the 'one China' policy, but I don't know why we have to be bound by a 'one China' policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade," Trump told Fox.

Trump's call with President Tsai Ing-wen was the first such contact with Taiwan by a US president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of "one China".

OPINION: Trump era has Beijing on edge

Beijing considers Taiwan to be a renegade province and the subject is a sensitive one for China.

On Monday, China said that it had "serious concern" about Trump's comments concerning Taiwan, and warned that any changes to how the US deals with the self-governing island could damage diplomatic ties between Washington and Beijing.

Geng Shuang, a spokesman for China's foreign ministry, said that established policy is the "political foundation" of any diplomatic relationship between China and the US, and that any damage to it could render cooperation between both sides to be "out of the question.

"We urge the new US leader and government to fully understand the seriousness of the Taiwan issue, and to continue to stick to the 'one-China' policy," Geng said.



WATCH: Experts warn of Trump's effect on US-China relations (2:45)
Earlier this month, after Trump's phone conversation with Taiwan's president, the Obama administration said senior White House aides had spoken with Chinese officials to insist that Washington's "one China" policy remained intact.

In the Fox interview, Trump criticised China over its currency policies, its activities in the South China Sea and its stance towards North Korea. He said it was not up to Beijing to decide whether he should take a call from Taiwan's leader.

INFOGRAPHIC: Who's who in Donald Trump's administration?

"I don't want China dictating to me and this was a call put in to me," Trump said. "It was a very nice call. Short. And why should some other nation be able to say I can't take a call?

"I think it actually would've been very disrespectful, to be honest with you, not taking it," Trump added.

In the Fox interview, Trump brought up a litany of complaints about China that he emphasised during his presidential campaign.

"We're being hurt very badly by China with devaluation, with taxing us heavy at the borders when we don't tax them, with building a massive fortress in the middle of the South China Sea, which they shouldn't be doing, and frankly with not helping us at all with North Korea," Trump said.



WATCH: China-Taiwan - Historic meeting of leaders (2:09)
"You have North Korea. You have nuclear weapons and China could solve that problem and they're not helping us at all."

Economists, including those at the International Monetary Fund, have widely viewed China's efforts to prop up the yuan's value over the past year as evidence that Beijing is no longer keeping its currency artificially low to make Chinese exports cheap.

'Naive like a child'
The Global Times, an influential tabloid published by the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily, said in an editorial that Trump was "naive like a child on diplomacy" and that the "one China" policy "could not be bought or sold".

When the time comes, the Chinese mainland will launch a series of "decisive new policies toward Taiwan", the paper said.

"We will prove that all along the United States has been unable to dominate the Taiwan Strait and Trump's desire to sell the 'one China' policy for commercial interests is a childish urge," it said.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/donald-trump-china-policy-161212035714312.html


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Mod Edit: President Trump is now backing the One China policy.
https://defence.pk/threads/world-leaders-back-one-china-policy.467358/page-7#post-9191106

 

[alwaysfair]

Not easy to take over Taiwan. They have nearly 600 modern fighter planes with a well trained army.
The Crimea and Taiwan cases are totally different.

 

[T-Rex]

How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?

China will face the same problem faced by Hitler's Wehrmacht in crossing the English Channel. Had the Channel not been there history would have been written differently. China's naval arm is not that strong yet and I believe the US knows it. This is the reason they don't worry about an invasion by the mainland China.

Sir, we should be neutral on this issue (domestically and policy-wise). No need to stir hornet's nest. If Taiwan gains independence in the future and is recognized by UN, this would create a new headache for our foreign policy. Neutrality grants us flexibility in approaching these kind of issues.

Sometimes you have to stand by your friend even when you have nothing to gain. Just imagine the kind of support China has given to Pakistan against the west. Unlike india, against west China has no direct conflict. China could have remained neutral but she did not. You are talking like the indian banyas.

 

[alwaysfair]

Though frankly from a purely academic view i would like to see how the su30s of china do against the f16s of taiwan. Maybe China can start some lowlevel s..t .

 

[8888888888888]

PLAAF fighters are now more advanced than any ROC fighters which are out of date, USA can't even take a risk of F35 sale to ROC in case of PRC spies.

 

[gambit]

How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?

To 'do a Crimea' on Taiwan means an amphibious landing and to date, the PLA does not have any credible amphibious capability.

Let us explore this further...

What did Hitler do ? Aerial bombardment.

How well did it work ? Not very well.

Even though Taiwan as a land mass is much smaller than England, China and Germany have similar problems, namely, the invaders are always vulnerable and quite defenseless during water transit. The Taiwanese defenders do not have to sink all landing crafts during transit, just enough of them to discourage the actual landing itself. The PLA knows this.

If you calculated that you need 100,000 men to accomplish the invasion, you must factor in an overhead to compensate for losses during transit. Ten percent more ? Twenty percent more ? This overhead depends on reconnaissance of the capability of the defenders. But perhaps at one point, you will have to admit that you cannot deliver the total force that includes that overhead.

That was why Hitler did not invade England. No matter how much aerial bombardment Germany delivered, the Brits continued to give Hitler the impression that his amphibious operation will fail. Whether that was true or not -- is not the point. For all we know, maybe Germany would have succeeded. But the RAF gave the Luftwaffe enough of a hard time in the air that Hitler was convinced that unless he has air supremacy, enough of his amphibious force would be sunk to the point that whoever landed would be slaughtered on the English beaches.

Landing sites consideration is another constraint on the invasion force. Both Taiwan and China knows this and the advantage goes to the Taiwanese defenders. Landing sites indicates the approach directions. Weather is another factor that favors the Taiwanese. Amphibious landing crafts are not very maneuverable and prefers calm sea surface, but as the landing crafts moves in their steady state transit, that steady state make targeting easier for the Taiwanese defenders. What about mines that will be present in those suspected landing sites ?

This is why the PLAN will cease to be a credible force after a successful invasion of Taiwan.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

How many hours would it take for PLA to do a 'Crimea' on Taiwan?

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My dear friend,

How about less than a day to totally destroy TW navy and airforce including all air defences....


But this is not what central government wants. Taiwan is already unified with the mainland. It happend when the first TW dollar was invested in the mainland. And now the TW is fully dependent on the mainland. Fully integerated economically.

The policy of the central government is directed by a simple principle: China will NEVER harm her own offspring i.e her citizens.

Even in TW no one wants socalled independence. Only a few fifth columnists trying to beguil the some TW peoples without much success.

KMT retreated to the province of TW i.e. it remained in the Chinese Sovereign territory.

There is only One China from SCS to ECS..first the waters then the lands.

With SCS secured any chance of troublemakers muddying the waters in TW Straits is nill now.

So there is no such thing as TW Card to be played by anyone.


Pak must always stand with her Brother...no matter what happens. The relationship is based on something deeper than mere alliance or political leverage. But that you know better than I.

Time to bring in TW investors in Pak...they will benefit a lot from CPEC!


We should not read too much into Mr. Trump's statements...they are ...well... statements.


Regards,

SPF

 

[52051]

In case of a taiwan-China war, the fight may last for a few days before PRC take total control.