World Intellectual Prop Org: Rise of China as World's Largest IP Powerhouse

[ahojunk]

It is interesting that people are trying to substitute "number of innovation centers" for number of Innovations. It is like bragging about "number of training facilities" instead of "number of Olympic medals".

Mate, it's like comparing apples to oranges ..... LOL
Sorry, I couldn't resist .... LMAO

 

[rcrmj]

Simple idiotic CPC reeducation formulae. Whatever says good of others is nonsense and whatever says good about china makes the sense.

you need to back up your clueless claims with reality```

anyone with a brain wouldnt object claims that to say U.S, Japan, Germany or South Korea are leading players of high tech fields```but India ? it is a primitive factor driven society according to WIOP's annual reports which are supported by reality,

If you say India has rich culture or exotic food, I wouldnt oppose that, because its real``now you understand?

 

[MULUBJA]

It is interesting that people are trying to substitute "number of innovation centers" for number of Innovations. It is like bragging about "number of training facilities" instead of "number of Olympic medals".

When your universities ranked higher compared to Indian universities marely on facility basis without considering the success of students in getting high positions in high skilled area such as being CEOs of top multinationals, scientist in reputed organizations such as NASA or any other reputed top positions, I am sure that you would not like to draw same anology.

kid you need to back up your clueless claims with reality```

no one with a brain would object claims that to say U.S, Japan, Germany or South Korea are leading players of high tech fields```but India ? it is a primitive factor driven society according to WIOP's annual reports which are supported by reality,

If you say India has rich culture or exotic food, I wouldnt oppose that, because its real``now you understand?

Our premitive society was much knowledgeble than any other modern society. So if it said about you, it is an offense but if it is said bout us, it is a complement. Read what hu en sang wrote about India in his book.

 

[nature is]

When your universities ranked higher compared to Indian universities marely on facility basis without considering the success of students in getting high positions in high skilled area such as being CEOs of top multinationals, scientist in reputed organizations such as NASA or any other reputed top positions, I am sure that you would not like to draw same anology.

Valid point. How many scientist India produce each year? how many work in th US research institution, like NASA?

 

[rcrmj]

When your universities ranked higher compared to Indian universities marely on facility basis without considering the success of students in getting high positions in high skilled area such as being CEOs of top multinationals, scientist in reputed organizations such as NASA or any other reputed top positions, I am sure that you would not like to draw same anology.



Our premitive society was much knowledgeble than any other modern society. So if it said about you, it is an offense but if it is said bout us, it is a complement. Read what hu en sang wrote about India in his book.

does this have anything to do with me laughing at the very idea of 'most innovation centres' = 'most innovations'

When your universities ranked higher compared to Indian universities marely on facility basis without considering the success of students in getting high positions in high skilled area such as being CEOs of top multinationals, scientist in reputed organizations such as NASA or any other reputed top positions, I am sure that you would not like to draw same anology.

another Indian propaganda, if a country with 1.2 billion people has no position at world's high tech and manufacturing sector, a handful guys made to the top of few organization doesnt put any weight on India's capability in these fields```

Man, here is another reality, Chinese universities produce most scientific research papers in the world, and ranked second by high quality citation```and again, India is no where to be seen```so a slap on your 'marely on facility basis' nonsense

 

[MULUBJA]

does this have anything to do with me laughing at the very idea of 'most innovation centres' = 'most innovations'


another Indian propaganda, if a country with 1.2 billion people has no position at world's high tech and manufacturing sector, a handful guys made to the top of few organization doesnt put any weight on India's capability in these fields```

Man, here is another reality, Chinese universities produce most scientific research papers in the world, and ranked second by high quality citation```and again, India is no where to be seen```so a slap on your 'marely on facility basis' nonsense

Ohhhhhh So it is handful of Guys hummmm? 1/3 Nasa scientists are Indian, More than double Indians in IBM compared to Americans and Huge Indian presence in SAP, Microsoft and Googe is handful of People? I know you can drag yourself down to any level to prove your point. These are not isolated incidence but a well patterned behavior of you guys on this forum.
And yes, i will tell you how my example id relevant. You said that it is like more training centers compared to Olympic medals. I said it is more facilities in universities compared to actual performance of students in the field. I hope you will understand now.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Ohhhhhh So it is handful of Guys hummmm? 1/3 Nasa scientists are Indian, More than double Indians in IBM compared to Americans and Huge Indian presence in SAP, Microsoft and Googe is handful of People? I know you can drag yourself down to any level to prove your point. These are not isolated incidence but a well patterned behavior of you guys on this forum.
And yes, i will tell you how my example id relevant. You said that it is like more training centers compared to Olympic medals. I said it is more facilities in universities compared to actual performance of students in the field. I hope you will understand now.

https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-NASA-employee-are-Indian

SAP is a German company. Believe me, there ain't many Indians there.

 

[TaiShang]

https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-NASA-employee-are-Indian

SAP is a German company. Believe me, there ain't many Indians there.

So 1/3 of NASA is Indian was another hoax; or, let's say, a city legend from the largest dysfunctional democracy of the world.

Besides, I am not sure I would really take pride of it if 1/3 NASA were Chinese.

 

[onebyone]

What percentage of NASA employee are Indian?


Robert Frost, works at NASA
Written 23 Oct 2014

The figure is fiction. Here are the demographics:

The demographics come from self-identification and those that would choose to identify themselves as Indian are put under the header of Asian. These figures are agency-wide, so the demographics at any particular center may differ.

A detailed report is available here: The Best Places to Work in the Federal Government

 

[ahojunk]

The demographics come from self-identification and those that would choose to identify themselves as Indian are put under the header of Asian. These figures are agency-wide, so the demographics at any particular center may differ.

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This pie chart looks right to me. Of course the majority of the employees are white followed by blacks. The 6.8% Asian also includes Koreans, Japanese, Pakistanis, Vietnamese, Indonesians and Chinese. The percentage of Indians in NASA is minuscule despite all the hoopla posted by some Indian members.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Patents and regulation increasingly crucial to China's growth abroad
By Zhao Shijun ( China Daily ) Updated: 2016-12-28 07:13:24

Throughout the process of going global, Chinese enterprises have increasingly emphasized intellectual property protection and adopted intellectual property strategies according to their own situations, said executives of some IP-intensive companies in Guangdong province.

ZTE Corp, a major Chinese information and communications technology provider based in Shenzhen, has regarded IP as a key strategy in its innovation-driven growth for many years, according to Shen Nan, vice-president and chief IP officer of the company. He said ZTE has filed nearly 70,000 patent applications to date, with more than 25,000 patents being authorized by authorities around the world.

"The numbers mean that we are one of the leaders in terms of IP, not only in the ICT industry, but also in the nation," Shen said, adding that the company is also a leader in some specific fields worldwide.​

He said ZTE was recently rated No 1 in the field of Internet of Things worldwide by the Intellectual Property Office of the United Kingdom.

In 2015, the company ranked third in international patent applications via the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), a rank it held for six consecutive years, Shen said.

Recalling the past two decades of IP operations, Hu Yi, chief IP counsel at ZTE, said the company has accumulated rich experiences and evolved from a defensive position into an active player and even a setter of regulations.​

"At first, we were not familiar with IP-related laws and rules, we didn't even know what IP was," Hu said.​

However, he said, IP is an issue that nobody can avoid in overseas operations. Hu said ZTE is the Chinese enterprise that has faced the largest number of IP disputes in the past few years, including more than 180 lawsuits overseas and about 60 at home.​

"We have more IP disputes overseas because we are a global company," Hu said, explaining that ZTE now has more business revenue coming in from overseas than from China.​

Along with its growing strength in IP development and overseas operations, ZTE has increased its competence in dealing with international IP disputes.​

"As ZTE itself is the holder of a large number of patents, we are in a better position to hold dialogues and cooperate with other overseas patent holders," Hu said.​

"We now perform better in markets with stricter IP regulations," Hu said, adding that the markets are more helpful for enterprises like ZTE who focus on innovation and IP protection.​

Executives of China Star Optoelectronics Technology, a leading Chinese liquid-crystal display manufacturer based in Shenzhen, said their company also highlights cooperation in international IP operations.

The company, which was founded in 2009, has filed nearly 19,000 patent applications in the past several years and is now the holder of more than 4,480 authorized patents.

Che Hanshu, vice-president of CSOT, said the LCD market was dominated by South Korean and Japanese players for about a decade until facilities in China were launched by CSOT and Beijing Oriental Electronics in the late 2000s.

"As a latecomer, we emphasize self-development, respect intellectual property rights and observe laws and regulations more than anybody else," Che said.

He said the company is now a major LCD provider for renowned overseas TV manufacturers such as Samsung and Sony.​

"We are all major patent holders in the global LCD industry," Che said, adding that CSOT and its partners have developed an effective IP cooperation system based on cross-licensing of patents.​

"We haven't had a single IP dispute in the international market to date," Che stressed.​

Meizu Technology, a major smartphone and mobile phone manufacturer based in Zhuhai, took another approach in its international IP operations.

According to Liu Qun, vice-president for the company's legal affairs, smartphones are the most patent-intensive sector as more than 100,000 invention patents are involved in a single unit.

He said this makes the industry more sensitive to IP disputes.

"We have filed more than 1,000 patent applications annually in recent years, but this is still a small number," Liu said.

Liu said Meizu is now actively dealing with overseas disputes with "reasonable, constructive dialogues".

"We hope justice organizations in various countries, including China, can be more innovative in solving IP-related disputes. We have seen progress, though, such as new measures to solve the repeated charging of patent licensing fees," Liu said.

His advice to China's fledgling players is to avoid entering certain overseas markets with strict IP regulations until they have become more competent in IP development and more familiar with overseas rules and laws.​

China has become a major power in the world's IP sector, as the number of its patent applications reached 1.1 million last year, according to a recent report by the World Intellectual Property Organization. This was the first time that a nation's patent filings surpassed the 1 million benchmark, said the report, adding that China had topped the WIPO ranking list of patent applications for five consecutive years.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2016-12/28/content_27794715.htm

 

[ahojunk]

https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-NASA-employee-are-Indian

SAP is a German company. Believe me, there ain't many Indians there.

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I tend to believe you much, much, much more than some delusional posters.

Remember this:-

 

[ahojunk]

This post is directed at the rest of us.

I will say this one more time:-

There is no cure for stupidity.

Also, there is no cure for delusion.

But they do give me a good laugh, LMAO.

 

[Dungeness]

So 1/3 of NASA is Indian was another hoax; or, let's say, a city legend from the largest dysfunctional democracy of the world.

Besides, I am not sure I would really take pride of it if 1/3 NASA were Chinese.

I would not take pride for that if it is indeed the case. China must be a shitty place to work so that the brightest minds have to work for foreign organization.

 

[Shotgunner51]

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Patents and regulation increasingly crucial to China's growth abroad
By Zhao Shijun ( China Daily ) Updated: 2016-12-28 07:13:24

Throughout the process of going global, Chinese enterprises have increasingly emphasized intellectual property protection and adopted intellectual property strategies according to their own situations, said executives of some IP-intensive companies in Guangdong province.

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ZTE Corp, a major Chinese information and communications technology provider based in Shenzhen, has regarded IP as a key strategy in its innovation-driven growth for many years, according to Shen Nan, vice-president and chief IP officer of the company. He said ZTE has filed nearly 70,000 patent applications to date, with more than 25,000 patents being authorized by authorities around the world.

"The numbers mean that we are one of the leaders in terms of IP, not only in the ICT industry, but also in the nation," Shen said, adding that the company is also a leader in some specific fields worldwide.​

He said ZTE was recently rated No 1 in the field of Internet of Things worldwide by the Intellectual Property Office of the United Kingdom.

In 2015, the company ranked third in international patent applications via the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), a rank it held for six consecutive years, Shen said.

Recalling the past two decades of IP operations, Hu Yi, chief IP counsel at ZTE, said the company has accumulated rich experiences and evolved from a defensive position into an active player and even a setter of regulations.​

"At first, we were not familiar with IP-related laws and rules, we didn't even know what IP was," Hu said.​

However, he said, IP is an issue that nobody can avoid in overseas operations. Hu said ZTE is the Chinese enterprise that has faced the largest number of IP disputes in the past few years, including more than 180 lawsuits overseas and about 60 at home.​

"We have more IP disputes overseas because we are a global company," Hu said, explaining that ZTE now has more business revenue coming in from overseas than from China.​

Along with its growing strength in IP development and overseas operations, ZTE has increased its competence in dealing with international IP disputes.​

"As ZTE itself is the holder of a large number of patents, we are in a better position to hold dialogues and cooperate with other overseas patent holders," Hu said.​

"We now perform better in markets with stricter IP regulations," Hu said, adding that the markets are more helpful for enterprises like ZTE who focus on innovation and IP protection.​

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Executives of China Star Optoelectronics Technology, a leading Chinese liquid-crystal display manufacturer based in Shenzhen, said their company also highlights cooperation in international IP operations.

The company, which was founded in 2009, has filed nearly 19,000 patent applications in the past several years and is now the holder of more than 4,480 authorized patents.

Che Hanshu, vice-president of CSOT, said the LCD market was dominated by South Korean and Japanese players for about a decade until facilities in China were launched by CSOT and Beijing Oriental Electronics in the late 2000s.

"As a latecomer, we emphasize self-development, respect intellectual property rights and observe laws and regulations more than anybody else," Che said.

He said the company is now a major LCD provider for renowned overseas TV manufacturers such as Samsung and Sony.​

"We are all major patent holders in the global LCD industry," Che said, adding that CSOT and its partners have developed an effective IP cooperation system based on cross-licensing of patents.​

"We haven't had a single IP dispute in the international market to date," Che stressed.​

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Meizu Technology, a major smartphone and mobile phone manufacturer based in Zhuhai, took another approach in its international IP operations.

According to Liu Qun, vice-president for the company's legal affairs, smartphones are the most patent-intensive sector as more than 100,000 invention patents are involved in a single unit.

He said this makes the industry more sensitive to IP disputes.

"We have filed more than 1,000 patent applications annually in recent years, but this is still a small number," Liu said.

Liu said Meizu is now actively dealing with overseas disputes with "reasonable, constructive dialogues".

"We hope justice organizations in various countries, including China, can be more innovative in solving IP-related disputes. We have seen progress, though, such as new measures to solve the repeated charging of patent licensing fees," Liu said.

His advice to China's fledgling players is to avoid entering certain overseas markets with strict IP regulations until they have become more competent in IP development and more familiar with overseas rules and laws.​

China has become a major power in the world's IP sector, as the number of its patent applications reached 1.1 million last year, according to a recent report by the World Intellectual Property Organization. This was the first time that a nation's patent filings surpassed the 1 million benchmark, said the report, adding that China had topped the WIPO ranking list of patent applications for five consecutive years.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2016-12/28/content_27794715.htm

Note to the post: ZTE and CSOT (China Star Optoelectronics Technology) are tech powerhouses among the global Top 100, but Meizu is yet to make it happen. In WIPO 2016, there are 23 Chinese companies in the list, I hope more Chinese tech firms can join in coming years.

http://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_941_2016.pdf