World Bank wants Pakistan to accept ‘neutral expert’ in dam dispute

[GodToons]

The Indian lobby in the World Bank will play its role in blocking Pakistani voices and proving their version of propaganda internationalizing that Pakistan failed to take adequate measures to conserve water. But, according to the treaty, Pakistan has exclusive rights to the water from Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab. However, India must understand that by threatening Pakistan's water supply it is basically going to push Pakistan towards open war with India and in this war, Pakistan has nothing to lose but for India, ramifications will have far-reaching effects on the Indian economies. If India wants to take that risk it is up to it. This is a neutral remark that We both sides (India and Pakistan) understand from new climate research on South Asia is going to get big hit by climate change in coming 20 years. it immense need of the time to handle this matter on war feet. Now we are on the verge of the water crisis. Build dams, on each and every possible location, plant trees, control population, use every resource carefully.

It is good that more sensible persons are sitting in Army headquarters who have to make their fortune in London, dubai using $20B Fauji Foundation and its subsidiaries not forgetting canals of land allocated free to them.

They will NOT do foolish step and kill the golden bird.

Last year, China blocked a tributary of the Brahmaputra River in Tibet, which sent shockwaves to India. Pakistani media perceived the blockage as deliberate Chinese pressure to ease mushrooming Indian pressure on Pakistan. China, though, asserted that the move was necessary to construct the long-planned Lalho hydroelectric project and that the construction would not interrupt water flow toward India. Still, many saw the move as a “soft” message that India should refrain from instigating water wrangles with Islamabad. This interpretation is largely buttressed by the timing: the initial work on the Lalho project started back in 2014, but the blockage came immediately after Modi’s water warnings to Pakistan. China’s Zam Hydropower Station, which became operational in 2015 on the Brahmaputra River, also raised Indian eyebrows over the prospect of disrupting water supplies.
Starting from Tibet, the Brahmaputra River flows into Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, and later into Bangladesh. With control of the Tibetan headwaters, China could block the water flow at any time. Unlike Pakistan and India, there is no water treaty between China and India; however, both established an Expert Level Mechanism (ELM) in 2013 by which Beijing would provide India with data on water flows. Indian utilization of a water blockade against Pakistan could thus invite China to retaliate in kind, making things worse for the entire region.

Since you are not aware of geographies of Tibet, refrain from commenting. It shows your inexperience and reveals mumbo-jumbo in speech.

 

[xyx007]

It is good that more sensible persons are sitting in Army headquarters who have to make their fortune in London, dubai using $20B Fauji Foundation and its subsidiaries not forgetting canals of land allocated free to them.

They will NOT do foolish step and kill the golden bird.


Since you are not aware of geographies of Tibet, refrain from commenting. It shows your inexperience and reveals mumbo-jumbo in speech.

you don't have any mumbo-jumbo answer to my comments. As soon as we build some pressure on the talk you guys become speechless. We can understand is the normal attitude of average Indian to reply like as you did it.
India is middle riparian in many rivers. If India tries to block Pakistan water then China will block India's water flow by using the same logic but Indians don’t understand any logic.India is concerned that if the waters are diverted, then projects on the Brahmaputra, particularly the Upper Siang and Lower Suhansri projects in Arunachal Pradesh, may get affected.
We knew since India took the Kashmir issue to UN and promised right of self-determination and then backed off after getting full hold of occupation.

 

[Soumitra]

India believes it will not get an answer for illegally cutting Pakistan’s water. They have forgotten that the same water flows from China into India and then to Pakistan. China can also divert that water to Pakistan. This will lead to drought in Indian Punjab and western states of India.

Always India is the villain trying many tricks, but always foiled by Pakistan and China in this game. Silly India

Yeah right- China will spend 100 of millions of dollars to build a canal system through the Himalayas just so that Pakistan can get water.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yeah right- China will spend 100 of millions of dollars to build a canal system through the Himalayas just so that Pakistan can get water.

Pakistan can spend that amount to secure its own water. It’s a worthy investment. Chinese companies will create jobs and growth.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

FYI: http://newsweekpakistan.com/the-case-for-kalabagh-dam/

World Bank pushed Pakistan to construct Kalabagh Dam in order to address its water woes since 1960, and was willing to finance it. We didn't bother due to opposition from Sindh. Now that the water crises has deepened, we expect World Bank to stop Indian projects?

IMF have bailed our economy several times, most notably in 2008 when it became utterly dysfunctional.

WE have a thankless attitude towards these institutes which is not good. WE love to blame everybody for our problems but not our inner demons. Cry me a river.

What we do or don't, inhouse, is our internal matter, for all the right or wrong reasons. On this instance, according to the IWT, its world Bank duty to intervine which they are not.

Anyone who cannot see the geopolitics at play here is an absolute fool.

 

[XDescendantX]

World Bank wants Pakistan to accept ‘neutral expert’ in dam dispute

There is no such thing as a "neutral expert". Hindustan is given a free pass on committing genocide against Kashmiris yet Pakistan should accept a "neutral expert".

This world needs a new world order one that isn't run by a single race.

 

[Hu Yao]

Pakistan can spend that amount to secure its own water. It’s a worthy investment. Chinese companies will create jobs and growth.

But sadly, i think that project will cost billions.

 

[Soumitra]

Pakistan can spend that amount to secure its own water. It’s a worthy investment. Chinese companies will create jobs and growth.

You have that kind of money? you are neck deep in debt.

But you want to do it feel free. Maybe your iron brother will again loan you millions. They already control half your economy - what is a few percentage points more?

But one thing - do you have the technical expertise to construct such a project?

Basically, you will take money from China, then use it to pay Chinese companies to complete the project and then struggle to repay back that loan to China and finally, you will have to pledge the Chinese built pipeline back to China in order to repay the loans from China. China will then use that water to fulfill the needs of Chinese engineers and workers working in the CPEC project.

 

[chander_011]

So basically If World Bank refuses Pakistan case, then either China will block Brahmaputra river or Pakistan will destroy our Dams. With these threats, We Indians should refrain from building our dams. I am amazed by the intellectual level of PDF members. Anyhow, can anyone provide any solution or We Indians should continue our work in Kashmir!

 

[xyx007]

NE(Neutral Expert) being technical/design in nature from WB is a version of exactly what India is saying .WB is pushing hard to convince Pakistan to resolve this issue by neutral expert which I think WB is not doing their job and not in best interest of Pakistan to accept this neutral expert options from WB . For example, if Pakistan may accept this option then this layer become the best practice for all water-related future issues and Pakistan will lose the original treaty rights. Pakistan should reject this offer and go to the International Court of Justice and fight for their rights because it is a matter of life and death of a nation.

 

[Hu Yao]

So basically If World Bank refuses Pakistan case, then either China will block Brahmaputra river or Pakistan will destroy our Dams. With these threats, We Indians should refrain from building our dams. I am amazed by the intellectual level of PDF members. Anyhow, can anyone provide any solution or We Indians should continue our work in Kashmir!

But so far as I see, you Indian guys is no better than others.

China don't need to secure Pakistan water supply, they just need cut off all your water supply then you will surrender, and give Pakistan the water they need. Feel the pain of other people, then you can act widsomly.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pakistan can do anything for its survival. We are and always have been an unpredictable nation. This is the nation which took down the USSR, so don’t doubt us. This is the nation which set the blueprint for economic success used in China, Korea, Japan.

There is a divine hand in everything related to Pakistan, and broadly in the Muslim world. We are the only civilization to rule over Europe and the ones who took down Romans, Persian, and Mongol empires.

Our heroes have inspired many nations, not only our own, and our collective wisdom will break the idols of capitalism and fascism.

All which needs to be done is to make the physical effort to solve our problem and put the rest into the trust of God/Allah.

Never forget the Prophet’s inspirational words.

“Still tie your Camel but pray to Allah to protect it while you are gone”

“Allah does not help those who do not help themselves.”

 

[chander_011]

But so far as I see, you Indian guys is no better than others.

China don't need to secure Pakistan water supply, they just need cut off all your water supply then you will surrender, and give Pakistan the water they need. Feel the pain of other people, then you can act widsomly.

Did you know by blocking Brahmaputra river China will not only make India angry but Bangladesh will also become China's enemy. Please check the flow of Brahmaputra river.

 

[Path-Finder]

you don't have any mumbo-jumbo answer to my comments. As soon as we build some pressure on the talk you guys become speechless. We can understand is the normal attitude of average Indian to reply like as you did it.
India is middle riparian in many rivers. If India tries to block Pakistan water then China will block India's water flow by using the same logic but Indians don’t understand any logic.India is concerned that if the waters are diverted, then projects on the Brahmaputra, particularly the Upper Siang and Lower Suhansri projects in Arunachal Pradesh, may get affected.
We knew since India took the Kashmir issue to UN and promised right of self-determination and then backed off after getting full hold of occupation.

you seem to know your stuff what can Pakistan do?

 

[xyx007]

you seem to know your stuff what can Pakistan do?

Pakistan needs to build Dams on an emergency basis. Becuase India is applying Water Bomb on Pakistan and trying to block water from the eastern side as well as on Kabul River in Afghanistan.WB is also acting on more pro-Indian version and not listening to pakistan concern over IWT. I think it is a time for Pakistan to knock the door of ICJ and represent his case properly.