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I am 100 % agree with you.The problem is not with tipu being muslim,look at Akbar,,Dara shikoh and Zainul abdin how much indian respect him,Tipu never won any military campaign against regional indian kingdoms let alone Superior British at best he was the son of worthless warlord who usurped power from his Hindu Master.

Tipu Sultan Reign 29 December 1782 – 4 May 1799 and the most biggest acheivement was the invention of rockets by Indians.

first used the 2 k.m. missiles against the British troops in the Third Anglo-Mysore war at the end of 18th century.

After the fall of Srirangapattana, 600 launchers, 700 serviceable rockets and 9,000 empty rockets were found. Britishers after that took rocket technology to Europe.
 
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What the hell chinese , bangladeshi and Pakistanis are fighting for Tipu Sultan here guys Govt wants to make this memorial and If locals don't want that to happen Y force it upon them ?

Our govt's prime concern is Indians not Muslims or foreigners.
 
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I just know that the division among Indian rules helped invaders. Indians should not repeat old mistakes and be united under one flag and safeguard our nation.

Rockets were introduced first time in India.

LOL.... Is that a Threat ?

That I must bow to "muslim sentiment" and recognize Bigots like Tipu and Aurangzeb as "Heroes" or India will NOT be a united nation under one flag ?

Sorry, no can do. India WILL Continue to be a Single United Nation under one Flag and the TRUTH shall be set free and Bigotry and Bigots will be exposed for who they are.

Now to the only relevant fact you stated, introductions of Rockets. You are wrong as usual.

Tipu's GRANDFATHER, Hyder Ali's father, was the Naik or chief constable at Budikote where he commanded 600 men, 500 horses and 50 Rocketmen for the Nawab of Arcot :cheesy:

His name was Fath Muhammad. But he did not invent the Rockets either.

Rockets were first used by the Marathas (let by Tara Bai) against Aurangzeb when he invaded south India. It is recorded that during the Siege of Wagingera in 1704, Aurangazeb's commander Rao Dalpat Bundela elephant was killed when it was hit by a Rocket fired by the marathas.

Zulfiqar Khan Nusrat Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

THIS was the rocket which was passed on to the Nawat of Arcot and from him to Fath Muhammad, son Hyder Ali and his son Tipu Sultan.

Tipu Sultan added sword and blade to the Rocket. That was his people's contribution.

So NOW tell me, WHO introduced Rockets in India ? or used them in Warfare First ? :azn:
 
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Yes he fought for his kingdom and his survival ... I am only talking about the fight before his death. I am neither agreeing his conquests nor praising his rule.

I do not like British either !

I have seen the city Sri Rangapatana and the place where he fought and died.

He din't fight for his kingdom, he fought for his KINGSHIP. Its not the same. The Kingdom belonged to the Wadiar and it reverted BACK to them after Tipu was killed.
 
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The Mysore rockets made such an impact on the English that after the Anglo-Mysore wars, a research programme was set up to study this science. Sir William Congreve made a systematic study, improved upon the technology by applying Newtonian principles and released the first solid fuel rockets, named Congreve rockets after him. These were used in the wars against Napolean and the US in 1812. Thereafter, rocket technology saw a lull in development until it was revived by one Robert Goddard from the US who designed the first liquid fuel rockets in 1936.

Rocket designs by Sir William Congreve
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@Irfan Baloch @waz @Slav Defence
Yes my response will be more worse if any one on this forum insult our heritage and heroes.
I cannot control my reaction if any in this forum insult my country, religion, and national heroes.
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I can go far worse .More than you can imagine .But I respect those mods I tagged in there .So I am restraining .But dont take that granted.

Heritage ??Tell me Do you know any one language in South India ?Can you say at least one word anyone of these language .If you dont know then what heritage mr ?
Tipu was a South Indian .Since when did he become your national hero ?
About religion .After all these cruel rewards you didnt learn a single lesson.Well that is your fate.
 
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Tipu and his father were the only ones to stand up against the British Empire. All the others became pawns.
 
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We will comment on every single thread on here, this is our forum if you don't like it then Get the Fcuk Out of here. Our House our Rules.
Then we will reply in a language that you cant tolerate.
 
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He is Muslim since you people are our slave for 1000 years during that period every muslim rulers belong to us
LAMO WHAT :lol:

since when you pakistanis were central asian Chugtai and timurids ?

Its like a somali christian claiming that his ancestors ruled India as british indian empire.

THESE ARE CENTRAL ASIAN TIMURIDS
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even jahangir who had half rajput hindu blood was nowhere identical to you
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These are central asian
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this is pakistani
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Imagine how disgusting this sound when these pakistani calimed "we ruled you for 1000 years" :lol:


 
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"All the rockets in the world today can be traced to those used during the wars in Mysore," says aerospace scientist Professor Roddam Narasimha, DST year-of-science professor, engineering mechanics unit of Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advanced Scientific Research, who has been pursuing Tipu"s rockets as "an interesting sideline" for decades. "There is one single line of technology development that links those rockets to what the US, Russia and India are doing today ," he says. "It was Tipu who realized the full potential of rockets as weapons--both in his mind and on the field--and used them to create havoc in the East Indian Company lines."

The Chinese used rockets in warfare from the 13th century to repulse Mongol invaders, Europeans experimented with them in the 15th century and the Mughals shot them on the battlefield, but rockets were rapidly discarded as cannons and other forms of artillery with greater accuracy were developed."Most of these rockets were made of cardboard and other materials and they were not very different from our Deepavali crackers, lots of smoke and noise," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s new, improved rockets caused as much fear and confusion as damage in the British infantry ranks against which the Mysore army was arrayed.In 1780, at the Battle of Pollilur during the Second Anglo Mysore War, Tipu-under the rule of his father Hyder Ali-launched his supercharged weapons at the East India Company army led by William Baillie. The barrage of rockets set fire to the Company"s ammunition dumps and the British suffered one of their worst ever defeats in India. At its height, Tipu"s rocket corps had more than 5,000 men.

"Tipu had a fairly advanced technological set up, not the same as western science but very advanced for its time," says Dr Narendar Pani, professor, School of Social Science, National Institute of Advanced Studies. "The metal tubes and provision of direction drew the line between fireworks and rocketry." The superior quality iron available in Mysore was an added advantage and Tipu set up Taramandalpets (which translate as star-cluster bazaars) to do his research. "Tipu had four, what we would now call, tech parks--Srirangapatna, Bangalore, Chitradurga and Bidanur (present-day Nagara in central Karnataka) for rocket research," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s manufacturers were largely craftsmen who were pushed to do the best they could and improve their casting and firing through experimentation. His rocketmen were taught to make basic calculations for launch-they knew how to vary elevation depending on the size and weight of the rocket and the distance of the object to be struck. "Tipu was an interesting character. He promoted art and craft, including those that would help him in warfare," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s rocketeers launched about a dozen missiles at a time using wheeled carts with three or more rocket ramps.One of these barrages ended up scaring Arthur Wellesley silly in 1799--long before Wellesley became the hero of Waterloo and the Duke of Wellington--during the fourth and final Anglo-Mysore wars. Wellesley was sent out to reconnoiter a grove in Sultanpet in Srirangapatna and found himself under attack."He"d never encountered rocket fire before and he ran away . He should have been court martialed but he got away because his brother was the Governor General in Calcutta at the time," says Narasimha. "Wellesleys" biographer says the event changed him, he determined never to show fear again. He came to be known as the man who could not be rattled by anything. So you see, Mysore influenced Waterloo and the Iron Duke was forged in Sultanpet," he says.

Only two specimens remain of the Mysore rocket, both in the Royal Artillery Museum, Woolwich, and the details left are what the British recorded during their tests. "There was no proper documentation of our capability ," says Dr W Selvamurthy, former chief controller of R&D at DRDO, and currently president of Amity Science Technology and Innovation Foundation. "That"s one reason why we fell behind. The other is that this was the time of the Industrial Revolution, and Europe made great strides. We, under British rule, were left behind."
 
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