Women to lead Indian Army Units

[Tshering22]

it is done nowhere else. Spetsnaz are pure demons.
Don't forget the weight she must carry. The lower bone density and low testrostone levels.

Exactly.

It is simply nature.

Trying to make men out of women and women out of men, is simply idiotic.

Women staff in army can be helpful in investigation, interrogation and paramilitary roles including dealing with female threat perceptions. But not to command a frontline warzone.

 

[spectribution]

Study: Stress Increases Empathy in Women, Decreases It in Men - Pacific Standard: The Science of Society

BBC News - Men and women 'respond differently to danger'

 

[Tshering22]

Wrong, during pregnancy many changes take place in the body of a female and many endorphins( pain killers) are released which dull the pain and make it bearable that is due to evolution.
In general, the pain threshold in males is more compared to females.

Not internal pain dude.

There have been many researches where men have collapsed when the same level of pain is delivered to them in the abdomen region (simulation using technology) while women continue to endure it.

Men have stronger external endurance like being able to deal better with sharp blows and stuff.

 

[spectribution]

Not internal pain dude.

There have been many researches where men have collapsed when the same level of pain is delivered to them in the abdomen region (simulation using technology) while women continue to endure it.

Men have stronger external endurance like being able to deal better with sharp blows and stuff.

The woman's hips are especially made for that purpose.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Krav Maga is like a open cooking pot, everything that works in a situation comes in and unlike MMA KM is not bound to any restrictions. While KM for military units even teach you techniques to seriously injure/kill your opponent. Something that a MMA fighter does not learn. Besides, a KM instructor who has served in combat and is used to live and death situations will be tougher than a competitive MMA fighter who knows "combat" only from competitions. He knows that rules, a referee and the fact that his opponent does not want to kill him will protect him!



What do you think will you prove with that video ? ^^

Are you for real?, MMA includes even Krav Maga and other styles of grappling ,kicks , boxing, etc.
MMA is a sport but it is deadly when really used without rules.
MMA fighter learns the same techniques as krav maga soldier does only difference is they have rules in MMA no eye gouges, no biting, no catching or hitting of genitals etc.
You take off those rules and see how MMA fighter will own.
MMA evolved from street fighting where anything can be used to win and kill the opponent, Krava Maga involves street fighting techniques among many.
MMA was brutal before, but rules made it a sport and therefore people watch it on tv.

 

[Koovie]

Why do you over-sensitive male feminists jump to the conclusion that a woman who isn't let to jump in to do a man's job, should be confined to the kitchen?

Thats what you get to think after reading your comment: "Why are women so desperate to show That they can do what men can do? "

Dont you think that there are women who want to serve for the same reasons as the ideal male soldier wants to?

This includes physical considerations.

This is not a stupid corporate office where people sitting in ties and suits in plush AC rooms are using their heads on a report or probably a sales target.

We are talking about a bloody war zone.

Not just infantry but spec ops.

Picture a 5'8" (I am being liberal with female dimensions which is much lesser in our country on an average) woman, equipped to the boot with battle gear along with male soldiers, rushing through a hail of bullets and artillery from the other side. Suddenly, her male comrade is shot and severely injured. She's in the middle of a dense tropical surrounding where she has only herself and her 10 team members spread out in the region. Her partner is injured and she is almost surrounded in a fight, with only one way to go: back.

What gives you the faintest inkling that she'd be able to carry a 85-90+ Kg man with 40 Kg of equipment on him that too in a semi-conscious state all while shooting through the barrage of bullets, avoiding trees, thorns etc in a dangerous terrain?

Well my experience, observations and constant interaction with the military folks and their drills states NO. It is because that is not what a woman's body is built for.

It will simply be stupid to assume that just for the sake of grandiose and the idiotic neo-liberal mentality, we put a woman's life in danger by putting her in full blown combative situations.

Women do serve in army and in very capable roles that require them to even take up a semi-combat role. But that is in a specific service commission basis.

See, it is simply practicality.

A woman's body can endure much more internal pain like childbirth, than a male counterpart. But her external endurance is limited. It is not something inferior or superior. It is simply nature.

Women are welcome in armed forces to contribute to the skill but a full blown frontline role to command and lead wars is a silly and strange move by the Army.

I have posted the reply to the physical strength argument in post this Today at 2:39 AM#141

Again, if anyone passes the physical and mental requirements (The question whether they are adequate is another one) that person is fit for service. Those requirements have thought behind them and are not to there for time pass.

But read the post.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Not internal pain dude.

There have been many researches where men have collapsed when the same level of pain is delivered to them in the abdomen region (simulation using technology) while women continue to endure it.

Men have stronger external endurance like being able to deal better with sharp blows and stuff.

If men had the same factors that go through a woman in pregnancy like endorphins then they too would bear the pain, Pregnancy brings in many changes in body, like hyper coagulation and many other factors etc. that doesn't happen in males.That is evolution, she won't be able to take that amount of pain when she is not in pregnancy.
Kick a woman in stomach she might not get up, while a man can.

 

[spectribution]

Thats what you get to think after reading your comment: "Why are women so desperate to show That they can do what men can do? "

Dont you think that there are women who want to serve for the same reasons as the ideal male soldier wants to?







I have posted the reply to the physical strength argument in post this Today at 2:39 AM#141

Again, if anyone passes the physical and mental requirements (The question whether they are adequate is another one) that person is fit for service. Those requirements have thought behind them and are not to there for time pass.

But read the post.

All that idealism is what gets people so confused. Your theory may be logical to some but reality speaks very differently for all.

 

[wolfschanzze]

The woman's hips are especially made for that purpose.

Well yes in a way and no too,
Not all women have the same hip structure and pelvic inlet and outlet types
There is
Gynaecoid Pelvis.
Anthropoid Pelvis.
Android Pelvis.
Platypelloid Pelvis.

out of these pelvis types Gynecoid pelvis is the best suited for pregnancy in females,
Android and platypelloid require considerable effort and might need surgery.

 

[Koovie]

Are you for real?, MMA includes even Krav Maga and other styles of grappling ,kicks , boxing, etc.
MMA is a sport but it is deadly when really used without rules.
MMA fighter learns the same techniques as krav maga soldier does only difference is they have rules in MMA no eye gouges, no biting, no catching or hitting of genitals etc.
You take off those rules and see how MMA fighter will own.
MMA evolved from street fighting where anything can be used to win and kill the opponent, Krava Maga involves street fighting techniques among many.
MMA was brutal before, but rules made it a sport and therefore people watch it on tv.

What are you talking about?

Krav Maga itself does not have its "own" techniques. And you did not properly answer the points I made. Simply ignoring them does not make you right!

Anyways, arguing who would beat whom in martial arts is as fruitful as arguing over who has the toughest commandos in the world.


But think about this, why is there such a huge rise in military forces, police forces and other security organizations, including the SPG, which switch over to Krav Maga as their hand to hand fighting method in recent times?

Do you think that have not put any thought into their decisions? Krav Maga is real world, and thats what sets it apart.

All that idealism is what gets people so confused. Your theory may be logical to some but reality speaks very differently for all.

My argumentation is logical but according to you reality is different.

Why dont you bother proving it?

 

[spectribution]

What are you talking about?

Krav Maga itself does not have its "own" techniques. And you did not properly answer the points I made. Simply ignoring them does not make you right!
Anyways, arguing who would beat whom in martial arts is as fruitful as arguing over who has the toughest commandos in the world.


But think about this, why is there such a huge rise in military forces, police forces and other security organizations, including the SPG, which switch over to Krav Maga as their hand to hand fighting method in recent times?

Do you think that have not put any thought into their decisions? Krav Maga is real world, and thats what sets it apart.

Krav Maga is for street fighting. MMA is what takes all fighting styles and fuses them into a super style. It's like how VIBGYOR if rotated on a color disk becomes white.

Eg: Batman knows all fighting style. So he can easily choose between what he wants to use at that moment.

 

[wolfschanzze]

What are you talking about?

Krav Maga itself does not have its "own" techniques. And you did not properly answer the points I made. Simply ignoring them does not make you right!
Anyways, arguing who would beat whom in martial arts is as fruitful as arguing over who has the toughest commandos in the world.


But think about this, why is there such a huge rise in military forces, police forces and other security organizations, including the SPG, which switch over to Krav Maga as their hand to hand fighting method in recent times?

Do you think that have not put any thought into their decisions? Krav Maga is real world, and thats what sets it apart.



My argumentation is logical but according to you reality is different.

Why dont you bother proving it?

Sambo was taught to russian special forces krav maga is same like systema spetsnaz that russians teach.
That is what i said, Krav Maga borrows many styles and techniques, so does MMA it also includes Krav Maga type techniques.

 

[Koovie]

Eg: Batman knows all fighting style. So he can easily choose between what he wants to use at that moment.

How old are you ????

 

[spectribution]

How old are you ????

26 years old Sir and working as techie having done my Btech.

 

[spectribution]

26 years old Sir and working as techie having done my Btech.

Still doesn't change why women are unfit for combat leadership.