Women to be fined up to £6,500 for wearing burkas in Swiss region

[Jat Boy]

Switzserland is STUNNING BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.

The people are highly civilised..

RESPECT THEIR TRADITION AND LAWS.

THERE IS NOTHING CLEANER IN THE WORLD.

Loved my holiday in Switzerland & BERNIA EXPRESS.

PLEASE leave this nation alone

 

[Kaniska]

I support Free Speech. you can say whatever you like



Right.. Right.. But did you know that Berber culture was exterminated by Arab Muslim invaders. We converted to Islam but the Arabs still forced Berber Muslims to pay an infidel tax and then a land tax. (So we paid more in taxes than Hindus, Christians or Jews )

They built fortified colonial cities and killed any Berber muslim who entered the city because they said we were inferior to them.

As a result a country that was once 100% Berber, is only 40-60% Berber and only 26% of the country knows how to speak their language.

But there's a difference between Berbers and Hindus. Berbers can tell the difference between Islam and Muslims.

Thanks friend for your explanation..But what is Barber you are referring to....
Again, these are my individual thoughts..Do not generalize it for all Indian..

 

[The Silent One]

Thanks friend for your explanation..But what is Barber you are referring to....
Again, these are my individual thoughts..Do not generalize it for all Indian..

Berbers are the native people of North Africa.

I'm a Berber, not Arab.

 

[Vortex]

Arabs, Berbere, Kabyles, French. African, Jews, Deutch... All human come from Adam... Aren't they ?

 

[DesiGuy]

Great!! Europe waking up to this menace.

7th century customs have no place in the 21st century and since they refuse to reform themselves, FORCE THEM.

21st century must ban this, no matter how muslims cry of being victims.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Excuse me!!!!!!!!!! every trouble in today's Pakistan is because of retarded Mullahs. Which world do you live in, where don't you see mullahs standing on the road, locals butchering is because of retarded mullahs and his twist on religion to make uneducated locals believe it's the right thing to do.

Allah blessed you with freedoms to practice your religion, but you are denying that to minorities do you not see that.

Bhai jaan, it is convenient to blame the world problem at the doors of the Mullahs. If we stick to the topic and as you're Pakistani, we have izzat and khairat. Mullah or no mullah some man tries to take off YOUR sisters, mothers', wifes' niqab, hijab, chadar, burqah, etc, you'll kill him if you have an ounce of self respect. The society that we live in the land of the pure is a conservative Islamic one and Allah blessed us with brothers who have khairath and izzath. So, don't fool yourself thinking a Mullah will do this or that, complete STRANGERS will kill you if you touch a sister in hijaab, burqah, niqab, etc. And if you doubt that go and try it!

 

[Jf Thunder]

Jf Thunder, post: 7928275, member: 151954

''i will be killed in the most brutal way by mullahs''

You know very well it would not be the Mullahs (as they are not standing on street corners), but the locals would butcher you to death. There is a difference living in our beloved country that Allah blessed us with the freedoms to practice our faith and those living in fear in Christendom.

these radical ideas of yours are driving people away from Islam, not towards it

Great!! Europe waking up to this menace.

7th century customs have no place in the 21st century and since they refuse to reform themselves, FORCE THEM.

21st century must ban this, no matter how muslims cry of being victims.

i support the ban, and i am a proud Muslim

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

these radical ideas of yours are driving people away from Islam, not towards it

Unlike you mere bhai I don't go along with the kufar to put down OUR culture, religion to make it acceptable to them. Our actions are for Allah alone.

How far do you want to go? Do you think the ones attacking Islam will rest with the removal of burqah? Then it will be hijab, then....until they are like their women.

What I'm about to say is to make a point and not to insult you or family; your mother is my mother, your sister is my sister; I've heard women in Christendom walk around practically naked, jumping from one man to another, is this what you want for your(my) family?

Mere bhai that is where they want us to go. Where is OUR honour? Where are those brothers who would kill another man if he dares to harass his sister, not alone undress them?

Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (radi'Allah) that the Prophet (as'salathu was'salaam) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” Narrated in Bukhari sharief.

Hadith explanation:

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the kuffaar as being of them.

i support the ban, and i am a proud Muslim

Statement made by a scholar, please reflect on it;

''The one who imitates the kuffar feels that inferior and defeated, so he hastens to make up for his feelings of inadequacy by imitating those whom he admires. If these people were to ponder the greatness of Islamic sharee’ah and understand how corrupt is that civilization they are running after, they would realize that they are doing wrong and that they have forsaken something that is perfect and true for something that is imperfect and corrupt.''

 

[Jf Thunder]

Unlike you mere bhai I don't go along with the kufar to put down OUR culture, religion to make it acceptable to them. Our actions are for Allah alone.

How far do you want to go? Do you think the ones attacking Islam will rest with the removal of burqah? Then it will be hijab, then....until they are like their women.

What I'm about to say is to make a point and not to insult you or family; your mother is my mother, your sister is my sister; I've heard women in Christendom walk around practically naked, jumping from one man to another, is this what you want for your(my) family?

Mere bhai that is where they want us to go. Where is OUR honour? Where are those brothers who would kill another man if he dares to harass his sister, not alone undress them?

Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (radi'Allah) that the Prophet (as'salathu was'salaam) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” Narrated in Bukhari sharief.

Hadith explanation:

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the kuffaar as being of them.

i dont have a sister LAWL.

back on topic, i support the Burqa ban not because the West does, in my view Western dresses are as much as threat to our culture as the Burqa, i want our Pakistani culture to remain, our cultural dresses are modest enough, i am not in favor of covering the face, i just want us to retain our culture, and i will say it again, that our cultural dresses are modest enough to be accepted in Islam

Unlike you mere bhai I don't go along with the kufar to put down OUR culture, religion to make it acceptable to them. Our actions are for Allah alone.

How far do you want to go? Do you think the ones attacking Islam will rest with the removal of burqah? Then it will be hijab, then....until they are like their women.

What I'm about to say is to make a point and not to insult you or family; your mother is my mother, your sister is my sister; I've heard women in Christendom walk around practically naked, jumping from one man to another, is this what you want for your(my) family?

Mere bhai that is where they want us to go. Where is OUR honour? Where are those brothers who would kill another man if he dares to harass his sister, not alone undress them?

Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (radi'Allah) that the Prophet (as'salathu was'salaam) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” Narrated in Bukhari sharief.

Hadith explanation:

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the kuffaar as being of them.



Statement made by a scholar, please reflect on it;

''The one who imitates the kuffar feels that inferior and defeated, so he hastens to make up for his feelings of inadequacy by imitating those whom he admires. If these people were to ponder the greatness of Islamic sharee’ah and understand how corrupt is that civilization they are running after, they would realize that they are doing wrong and that they have forsaken something that is perfect and true for something that is imperfect and corrupt.''

answered above (previous post)

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

i dont have a sister LAWL.

back on topic, i support the Burqa ban not because the West does, in my view Western dresses are as much as threat to our culture as the Burqa, i want our Pakistani culture to remain, our cultural dresses are modest enough, i am not in favor of covering the face, i just want us to retain our culture, and i will say it again, that our cultural dresses are modest enough to be accepted in Islam

Whatever Islamic is our culture, my family do the niqaab and I believe that is what you're really asking about. I will make this as clear as I can, whatever ban you're talking about, be it burqah or anything else will NEVER happen in the land of the pure.

 

[Zibago]

@Jf Thunder mate he is a nadrassa graduate so you are arguing with a brick wall

 

[Vortex]

Whatever Islamic is our culture, my family do the niqaab and I believe that is what you're really asking about. I will make this as clear as I can, whatever ban you're talking about, be it burqah or anything else will NEVER happen in the land of the pure.

Bhai, bahot kam laug pak hein humarey pyiarey watan mein.:-(

 

[raj76]

I'm not insulting you but i always noticed that Hindus (Indians) support the anti-Islam Far Right while completely ignoring the fact the Far Right often is intolerant towards Hinduism and Indians xD

I remember asking a Christian Conservative in the US a simple question "ok, you don't like muslims, but what about Hindus or Buddhists? can they live in the US or Europe?"

To which they responded "no, their cultures are not compatible with ours, haven't you seen the Hindus raping the baby girls?"

“I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” ~ Winston Churchill

In February 1945 Churchill told his private secretary, Sir John Colville (1915-1987) that:

“the Hindus were a foul race…and he wished Bert Harris (Air Marshall Bert "Bomber" Harris (1892 - 1984) could send some of his surplus bombers to destroy them.”
Hindu Wisdom - European Imperialism

But by all means, continue on with your fantasy of an Islamic cultural invasion and the idea that you're somehow a frontline brave crusader helping the Europeans xD



Both.

lol but the reality of world is indians (muslim or hindus) and chinese are getting immigration h1 and student visas easily. so i think quoting 60-70 yr old ideology doesnt prove a thing

 

[Jf Thunder]

Whatever Islamic is our culture, my family do the niqaab and I believe that is what you're really asking about. I will make this as clear as I can, whatever ban you're talking about, be it burqah or anything else will NEVER happen in the land of the pure.

i do not view the niqaab as something told by Islam, i follow the Haniafi Fiqh, and Imam Abu Hanifa says it is not a requirement to cover the face,
and for me everything that is Islamic and Pakistani is my culture

@Jf Thunder mate he is a nadrassa graduate so you are arguing with a brick wall

i can see that LOL

 

[Zibago]

Bhai, bahot kam laug pak hein humarey pyiarey watan mein.:-(

He is Commander Uncle he is going to start a tehreek for Pak Pak Pakistan

So kids are you with him?