Woman Stoned to Death For Having a Cell Phone

[EagleEyes]

Nopes. killing of women on these lines is very rare in India while its daily occurring in Pakistan.

More women get raped, burned, harassed in India than in any country. So your post is inaccurate to say the least.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

More women get raped, burned, harrased India than entire world. So your post is inaccurate to say the least.

Wow. The WebMaster joins the peeing contest ? C'mon Webby, don't promote the mockery of a serious topic. Let's educate the ignorant and not feed them with more ignorance ?

 

[Alpha1]

Wow. The WebMaster joins the peeing contest ? C'mon Webby, don't promote the mockery of a serious topic. Let's educate the ignorant and not feed them with more ignorance ?

Ignorance is denying the fact that it happens way more in india!

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Ignorance is denying the fact that it happens way more in india!

Nobody denied that fact. Read my posts and judge for yourself. I protest against the light hearted banter about a serious situation from both Pakistanis and Indians. As I stated (hopefully this summarized statement will help everybody including the WebMaster to understand the point of these articles)...human rights abuse is widespread in South Asia. If all South Asians do not join together and speak out against these affronts jointly then these issues will remain steadfast in South Asia. By making it an Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Hindu/Sikh/Muslim etc problem, we are being naïve and ignorant. We give ammunition to the perpetrators and we mock the victims. This thread is a classic example of how we do it

 

[Pulsar]

Well even thought it was not in the title I was sure it happened in Pakistan.

Really? Then I don't think you've heard about the illegal Khap Panchayats in India, which have initiated threats of murder and violence to couples who marry outside of the circle and encourage honor killings.

So, friend, why didn't the title lead you to think that it happened in India? Why only Pakistan? These brutal, feudal-minded persons existing in both India as well as Pakistan deserve the harshest punishment. Only this way can we stamp out such acts of barbarism and feudal mentality.

 

[EagleEyes]

@Pulsar ignore that idiot, he has 7 banned accounts and is a serial troll.

 

[Foo_Fighter]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee... I am on this site cause I love reading bitching between friendly neighbors. Trolling is fun if your are in the right mood

Indians vs pakistanis trolling again on a thread which could have very serious discussion yet............

It is getting out of hand , @WebMaster, @Awesome @nuclearpak, @Aeronaut, @Oscar kindly restrict pakistan affairs especially social and political discussions to Pakistani members only to curb this indian vs pakistani trolling......

 

[notsuperstitious]

More women get raped, burned, harassed in India than in any country. So your post is inaccurate to say the least.

That's statistically false, but if your point is that crimes against women are unacceptably numerous in India then YES, that's true.

@ topic these panchayats weaken the state's writ and should be banned completely. In India too where they exist (Haryana, UP, Rajastan) they only bring shame to every sane person.

 

[Amaa'n]

All these contribute to this incident!
*Male egoistic hormones
*Taboo of male-female interaction
*family fears public humilition , incase of a scandal unearthed
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i Think it would have been better if the family would have kept check on her mobile incomming and outgoing, instead of killing her

You missed the point, the point is not why she was punished, the point is who gave the judgement to punish her, was it the legal lawful court or an illegal tribsl court or a panchayat, which in all means shouldn't operate in any corner of the country

 

[Amaa'n]

Rape in India is far less than in Pakistan.
there is no killing in India for having mobile phone, wearing jeans or going to cinema hall or just being from minority community like you see daily in your neighborhood.

Your allegations are useless without statistics

 

[Alpha1]

You missed the point, the point is not why she was punished, the point is who gave the judgement to punish her, was it the legal lawful court or an illegal tribsl court or a panchayat, which in all means shouldn't operate in any corner of the country

Indeed these panchayats should be banned!

 

[muse]

Indeed these panchayats should be banned!

These Pamchayat do not meet the letter or spirit of the law and the Pakistani state and it's judiciary cannot be bothered to provide citizens appropriate venues
Are panchayat representative? What does it say about our society?

 

[Windjammer]

Its a common problem.... our perception of women.

This has to go especially in backward areas.

In fact, if these Khaps/Taliban types don't listen to persuasion to be more open minded, IMO send a bunch of soldiers to beat the crap out of them.

That's the tragedy, seems the credentials of human values have never touched these people hence they thrive in their barbaric ways of life, while some exercise it as the law of the land while others use it to take revenge and suppress any opposition.

 

[HRK]

Pakistan: A Young Woman Stoned to Death For Having a Cell Phone

Pakistan: A Young Woman Stoned to Death For Having a Cell Phone After Ruling By a Panchayat

Arifa, a mother of two, has been stoned to death on the orders of Panchayat (a tribal court) for possessing a cell phone. She was executed on 11 July in the district of Dera Ghazi Khan in Punjab province. The victim was stoned to death by her uncle and relatives on the orders of Panchayat after she was found to have a mobile phone.

According to media reports her uncle, cousins and other relatives threw stones and bricks at her until she died. She was buried without informing anyone. Police registered a First Information Report (FIR) against the Panchayat but no one has been arrested. She was buried in a desert far away from her village and nobody (not even her children) was allowed to participate in the funeral. Her husband is unknown.

Women are often victimized by these illegal judicial systems. This incident is a demonstration of the strong patriarchal society in Pakistan, and women are forced to remain in their clutches. Because of the absence of a proper criminal justice system, the powerful sections of society have complete impunity when they enforce their will.

The incident is a clear reflection of the total collapse of the rule of law in the country, where every section of the government has become utterly redundant in the face of tribal, feudal and religious traditions. The local police have not arrested the members of the Panchayat because the power in the area lies with the landed aristocracy.

Stoning to death is a barbaric act from a primitive society. Society is sent the message that violence is the way to deal with women and other vulnerable groups. Women's rights are negated through the use of these forms of punishment.

Pakistani society has degenerated to the point that, for a woman, keeping a cell phone has become serious crime. It is treated as a worse crime than gang rape, murder and bomb blasts, through which many people are killed on a daily basis.

The Panchayat is an illegal judicial system run by feudal lords and tribal leaders. It is common in rural areas of Punjab, where landed aristocracy and centuries old tribal traditions rule. These practices are commonly used against women so that their tribal norms remain pure and intact. The Panchayat system is so powerful that the 'independent judiciary' still has not shown the courage to declare it illegal. The Pakistani judiciary, which got its independence after a people's movement of two years, is much more involved in taking cases against elected government officials in order to keep its popularity in the media, while failing to introduce judicial reforms at the grassroots level, which has generated a society without any base on the rule of law.

What Arifa's death shows us is the real system of justice in many parts of Pakistan.
Local ruling is done by feudal bodies with complete impunity. There is no enforcement of the law by the judiciary, police or any other governing institution. It is more than the absence of the rule of law; it is an airless vacuum claiming many victims, in which the police – charged with the duty of enforcing the law - are hired thugs who torture and detain people at the request of powerful parties, please see the cases of two sisters, murdered in June 2013, 25 days apart, for daring to ask the courts for justice;

In Arifa's case, it is those same corrupt police officers who are now being asked to investigate. Without serious intervention from government authorities, her case will be treated the same as far too many innocent deaths have been; uninvestigated, with complete impunity for the perpetrators.

The Panchayat, Jirga and other illegal 'judicial systems' can easily be used by grudge informers and powerful persons to obtain 'death penalties' to murder whomsoever they want to. Bizarre charges can be tried and people are executed through these systems. There is rarely any intervention by the police to stop them because the police, as mentioned above, play a particular part in the real legal system that operates in many parts of Pakistan.

The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) urges the parliament to legislate against the illegal tribal courts, including the Jirga, Panchayat and Bradari judicial systems. The government must immediately investigate and arrest all the members of the Panchayat for ordering the murder of a woman on the charges of possessing a cell phone. The senior police officers for the district of Dera Ghazi Khan should also be prosecuted for aiding and abetting this heinous crime and neglecting their duty to investigate this case. The upper judiciary particularly the Supreme Court of Pakistan, must take immediate action against illegaland parallel judicial systems and the killing of innocent people.

@sanddy I believe you opened this thread with the sole purpose to discuss this issue genuinely…..but to me the news and its sources both are suspicious…....Why I am suspicious about this read below………..

• This news is not reported by any other Human Right organization such as human Rights commission Pakistan or any other International Human Right organization.........

• “Scoop Independent News” is coating Asian Human Right commission with the following linkPAKISTAN: Sister of the slain women which is not working, on further net searching no result is available for Asian Human Rights Commission, all other online sources are quoting Scoop news……

• We here in Pakistan do not use word Panchayat , which show the origin of this news………

• No further detail of Incident is available but according to the given detail this incident occurred 11 July, 2013 and Asian Human Right got that news very same date……. WOW….before anyone else..…..good

• No FIR number is available + Dera Ghazi Khan is not a desert Area………Husband of victim is unknown……. So lot of basic Information is missing which is itself against the fundamental of news reporting…….

• Only seven lines contain news element………… other stuff you read is just demands and Pakistan bashing stuff ……which show the specific purpose rather than news…..

• Even the writing style/language is not appropriate for any newspaper or Independent International Organization

In short the origin, detail and source all are suspicious………

 

[Cheetah786]

why i hv a feeling that this is a propaganda piece?-

Just look at the exaggeration-


wtf?- -
Almost every women i know in Pak has a cell phone- and they all are alive- -

Funny how this news is only being reported by The site is run by couple of hill billies out of New Zealand and not a credible source as they have literally 3 people working for them Creating news.


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