Within three years, Pakistan will be able to defeat India on its own

[White and Green with M/S]

You have quoted alot of stuff that you don't necessarily understand anything about. Rafaale is not superior to F16s. As for the S-300 is completely dog-shit and can't deal with drones have proven that again and again. You should have known this by now. 29-mig upgraded that is dogshit and trash.

They don't have the S-400 and it could be just as bad as s-300. Again you mentioned one good thing about them or one area of advantage which is the s-400 which they don't even have.

You are much deluded yourself look in the mirror

Oh what deluded person you're our F-16 have pulse doppler radar, their RAFALE has AESA and better electronic warfare system than our F-16 name SPECTRA And world most advance BVR Meteor our F-16 even don't have DRFM electronic warfare system for recognizing NATO jets

And every website says that S-300/400 one of the best surface to air missile system of the world even pentagon and US department of defense says that, so tell you're right or USA/ pentagon is right??

and India already ordered S-400 and deliveries will stars in 2021/22

look your negative ratings you come here only for doing your baseless trolls
you have no logic and commonsense, use your brain and search yourself these topics on net if you time and decide yourself

Upgraded mirages and 29-mig better then F-16s is that reality to you. Get outta here you filthy you causal.

Oh shit wait join date october 29th? just 4 weeks ago? This could very well be Austin powers 5th account.

Austin powers was previously Canadian then turned into Chinese and then he turned into Bosian-australian and now he transformed into Pakistani-american

i am former pakistanipower and ultima thule and he is a lover only Russian military stuffs and hate western/US military stuff, I am neutral and living in realties unlike you

 

[Titanium100]

Oh what deluded person you're our F-16 have pulse doppler radar, their RAFALE has AESA and better electronic warfare system than our F-16 name SPECTRA And world most advance BVR Meteor our F-16 even don't have DRFM electronic warfare system for recognizing NATO jets

And every website says that S-300/400 one of the best surface to air missile system of the world even pentagon and US department of defense says that, so tell you're right or USA/ pentagon is right??

and India already ordered S-400 and deliveries will stars in 2021/22

look your negative ratings you come here only for doing your baseless trolls
you have no logic and commonsense, use your brain and search yourself these topics on net if you time and decide yourself

i am former pakistanipower and ultima thule and he is a lover only Russian military stuffs and hate western/US military stuff, I am neutral and living in realties unlike you

Rafale is not superior to F16 despite AESA and you said upgraded Mirage and 29-mig is superior to F16s? That is what you said on the up which technically disqualifies you in this discussion. You remember what happened to India in 2019? Where was all the upgrades Mirages? They are dogshit and trash and they themselves even admitted this and currently changing their entire air-force.

S-300 is dog-shit and simply trash. Haven't we seen enough of that garbage in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh it is truly garbage and that is an understatement.

Your just writing a bunch of long line without any merit or facts. Austin Powers and parallel reality is a thing

 

[Trango Towers]

The F16 is not equipped with a phased array radar and has a short missile range.

In the article it says india has f16

Here read
India's fighters are dominated by Russian-made aircraft, along with some old F-16s and 36 Rafale

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Rafale is not superior to F16 despite AESA and you said upgraded Mirage and 29-mig is superior to F16s? That is what you said on the up which technically disqualifies you in this discussion. You remember what happened to India in 2019? Where was all the upgrades Mirages? They are dogshit and trash and they themselves even admitted this and currently changing their entire air-force.

S-300 is dog-shit and simply trash. Haven't we seen enough of that garbage in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh it is truly garbage and that is an understatement.

Your just writing a bunch of long line without any merit or facts. Austin Powers and parallel reality is a thing

I have say your mental disorder has no cure
IAF had shown poor tactics on 26/27 2019
And your rants about S-300 poor performance in Syria is for they (Russia/USA) has unwritten agreement that not to use their weapons each other
And do tell me AESA is more advance of RAFALE than f16s pulse Doppler radar is

You have no logic and commonsense

 

[Titanium100]

I have say your mental disorder has no cure
IAF had shown poor tactics on 26/27 2019
And your rants about S-300 poor performance in Syria is for they (Russia/USA) has unwritten agreement that not to use their weapons each other
And do tell me AESA is more advance of RAFALE than f16s pulse Doppler radar is

You have no logic and commonsense

The Indians themselves admitted that they need to change their entire airforce fleet coming from the horses own mouth how can you say otherwise.

S-300 is dog-shit and trash this is widely known turkish drones have been destroying them for food everywhere from Nagorno to Libya and Israels have also been destroying them. They are truly trash

 

[White and Green with M/S]

The Indians themselves admitted that they need to change their entire airforce fleet coming from the horses own mouth how can you say otherwise.

S-300 is dog-shit and trash this is widely known turkish drones have been destroying them for food everywhere from Nagorno to Libya and Israels have also been destroying them

Yeah yeah whatever your mental disease has no cure

You're blind troll RAFALE is not par on our f16 S-300 is shit all of indian military equipment is shit who are you to put a verdict of these system and i already told you don't underestimate your ENEMY they are not sitting idle they are improving their tactics/strategies/training standards against us

And china also have S-300 and its clones and also have S400 that's means these Chinese system are also shit am i right???
And china has also hq9 which is based on S-300 system which means hq9 is also shit

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

In recent years, Pakistan has imported a large number of advanced weapons and equipment from China at a very low price. With the help of these advanced equipments, Pakistan will be able to fight India independently within three years.
The air force
Pakistan will be imported from China 100 JF - 17 block Ⅲ. The aircraft is equipped with an active phased array radar with a detection range of up to 170 kilometers. And, JF - 17 block Ⅲ can also launch PL - 15 missile which has a range of more than 200 kilometers. The PL-15 air-to-air missile is China's most advanced air-to-air missile and is currently equipped with the J20 and J16. The PL-15 was also exported for the first time.

India's fighters are dominated by Russian-made aircraft, along with some old F-16s and 36 Rafale. Russian jets have a poor avionics system. Rafale is the only Indian fighter aircraft currently equipped with an ACTIVE phased array radar.
The air-to-air missile that the Indian fighter aircraft is equipped with has the longest range of the Modified Russian R-77, which has a range of 150 kilometers. It's still not as good as PL-15. This gives Pakistan's air force the ability to fire out of range of Indian warplanes.
Also, Pakistan has imported four ZDK-03 early Warning aircraft from China, which can detect Indian warplanes from 500 km away.
The ZDK-03, in conjunction with the JF-17, allows the PaF to detect and fire first.

Although the JF-17 is a light fighter with less payload, range, power, and flexibility than the Su 30, the PL-15's longer-range makes it a sitting target.

Pakistan also was introduced into China from 48 Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV. Look at the recent Nagorno-Karabakh war. Tanks, armored vehicles are useless against drones.

The army
Pakistan has imported 300 VT4 tanks from China. The arrival of the tanks will significantly increase the strength of the Pakistani army.

The navy
Pakistan has imported 4 054APS and 8 S20 from China. The fleet will double Pakistan's naval strength. The most advanced vessels in the Indian Navy are the kilo-class submarine. The Kilo-class submarine is more than 30 years old, and many systems lag behind the S20. The S20's comprehensive performance far exceeds the Kilo-class submarine.

If India wants to get more advanced equipment, it will have to pay several times or even dozens of times the price. An aircraft Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV is only $2 million, while India buys from the United States MQ - 9 Reaper UAV, units more than 100 million dollars. A JF - 17 block Ⅲ just $40 million, while a Rafale unit price $220 million.

3 years ? Jesi unki forces hain unke liye to Punjab or Sindh police ee kafi he

 

[Titanium100]

Yeah yeah whatever your mental disease has no cure

You're blind troll RAFALE is not par on our f16 S-300 is shit all of indian military equipment is shit who are you to put a verdict of these system and i already told you don't underestimate your ENEMY they are not sitting idle they are improving their tactics/strategies/training standards against us

And china also have S-300 and its clones and also have S400 that's means these Chinese system are also shit am i right???
And china has also hq9 which is based on S-300 system which means hq9 is also shit

Your mental yourself why you refutating something the indians themselves admitted. One thing we have learned is s-300 is trash period.

Never mind Balakot, IAF is worse off than Pakistan Air Force on pilot strength

Compared to Pakistan Air Force’s 2.5 pilots per aircraft, the IAF is at a ratio of 1.5. The IAF also has issues with squadron strength and target practice.

theprint.in

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

The limited number of Rafales ordered is "a bow to fiscal realities”

www.theweek.in

Not much has changed for IAF a year after it was outgunned by Pakistan

Not much has changed for IAF a year after it was outgunned by Pakistan

India has made some progress in moving to acquire fighters, tech and equipment but it is yet to get its hands on any.

theprint.in

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Your mental yourself why you refutating something the indians themselves admitted.

Never mind Balakot, IAF is worse off than Pakistan Air Force on pilot strength

Compared to Pakistan Air Force’s 2.5 pilots per aircraft, the IAF is at a ratio of 1.5. The IAF also has issues with squadron strength and target practice.

theprint.in

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

The limited number of Rafales ordered is "a bow to fiscal realities”

www.theweek.in

Only quantities is not sufficient but it have better than our whole Air Force arsenal and i already told you they shows poor tactics and strategies on 26/27 FEB 2019 so why you think that they are sitting idle and not improving themselves after balakot SKIRMISH

Your mental yourself why you refutating something the indians themselves admitted. One thing we have learned is s-300 is trash period.

Never mind Balakot, IAF is worse off than Pakistan Air Force on pilot strength

Compared to Pakistan Air Force’s 2.5 pilots per aircraft, the IAF is at a ratio of 1.5. The IAF also has issues with squadron strength and target practice.

theprint.in

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

Rafale not enough? Pak, China have more ‘force multipliers’ than IAF, says report

The limited number of Rafales ordered is "a bow to fiscal realities”

www.theweek.in

Not much has changed for IAF a year after it was outgunned by Pakistan

Not much has changed for IAF a year after it was outgunned by Pakistan

India has made some progress in moving to acquire fighters, tech and equipment but it is yet to get its hands on any.

theprint.in

And you're might be ultranational shit blind patriot

 

[Titanium100]

Only quantities is not sufficient but it have better than our whole Air Force arsenal and i already told you they shows poor tactics and strategies on 26/27 FEB 2019 so why you think that they are sitting idle and not improving themselves after balakot SKIRMISH

I never ruled out them improving but you have to be realistic currently as it stands they have zero advantages on Pakistan where as Pakistan has air-superiority on them.

In realities it is not about drinking cool-aid. Pakistan itself is growing tremendously and will do because this is linked to their own survival. It is like either evolve or die period there is nothing inbetween. India is pursuing an islamophobic policy and trends which will fortunately keep pakistan sharp at all times cause sometimes the best gift comes from your enemeis because they provide motivations and heed

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Pakistan itself is growing tremendously

Where and when Pakistan is growing tremendously is their economic growth or on military ground in recent years can you show me what we achieved big in term of military or on economic/financial ground within 10 years??? I didn't sea any on military or on economic ground with the exception of JFT production

 

[Titanium100]

Where and when Pakistan is growing tremendously is their economic growth or on military ground in recent years can you show me what we achieved big in term of military or on economic/financial ground within 10 years??? I didn't sea any on military or on economic ground with the exception of JFT production

Economy growth as such may never come until you wage war but that is unnecessary as of what Pakistan has of economy is enough for them to evolve and they are already capable and evovled. You can mark my words Pakistan will defeat India in the future and occupy it whole. It is also not wise to reveal any domestic productions keep it for surprise at another date. What has india developed? Nothing? They don't have the stomach for such massive war but Pakistan does and they will be on the defensive not the other way around. You should change your flag. Pakistan will always have the predator mindset and India prey this will never change

 

[ayodhyapati]

In recent years, Pakistan has imported a large number of advanced weapons and equipment from China at a very low price. With the help of these advanced equipments, Pakistan will be able to fight India independently within three years.
The air force
Pakistan will be imported from China 100 JF - 17 block Ⅲ. The aircraft is equipped with an active phased array radar with a detection range of up to 170 kilometers. And, JF - 17 block Ⅲ can also launch PL - 15 missile which has a range of more than 200 kilometers. The PL-15 air-to-air missile is China's most advanced air-to-air missile and is currently equipped with the J20 and J16. The PL-15 was also exported for the first time.

India's fighters are dominated by Russian-made aircraft, along with some old F-16s and 36 Rafale. Russian jets have a poor avionics system. Rafale is the only Indian fighter aircraft currently equipped with an ACTIVE phased array radar.
The air-to-air missile that the Indian fighter aircraft is equipped with has the longest range of the Modified Russian R-77, which has a range of 150 kilometers. It's still not as good as PL-15. This gives Pakistan's air force the ability to fire out of range of Indian warplanes.
Also, Pakistan has imported four ZDK-03 early Warning aircraft from China, which can detect Indian warplanes from 500 km away.
The ZDK-03, in conjunction with the JF-17, allows the PaF to detect and fire first.

Although the JF-17 is a light fighter with less payload, range, power, and flexibility than the Su 30, the PL-15's longer-range makes it a sitting target.

Pakistan also was introduced into China from 48 Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV. Look at the recent Nagorno-Karabakh war. Tanks, armored vehicles are useless against drones.

The army
Pakistan has imported 300 VT4 tanks from China. The arrival of the tanks will significantly increase the strength of the Pakistani army.

The navy
Pakistan has imported 4 054APS and 8 S20 from China. The fleet will double Pakistan's naval strength. The most advanced vessels in the Indian Navy are the kilo-class submarine. The Kilo-class submarine is more than 30 years old, and many systems lag behind the S20. The S20's comprehensive performance far exceeds the Kilo-class submarine.

If India wants to get more advanced equipment, it will have to pay several times or even dozens of times the price. An aircraft Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV is only $2 million, while India buys from the United States MQ - 9 Reaper UAV, units more than 100 million dollars. A JF - 17 block Ⅲ just $40 million, while a Rafale unit price $220 million.

cannabis has very strange effect on it’s smokers

I geninuely think that Pakistan can beat India today forget about 3 years.

There is alot of elements that goes into that war and it always favors pakistan over India. Superior airforce and as you mentioned with additional technologies the cap will only increase.

Alot of people are mostly deluded by India's numbers but these numbers are deceptive. Once the nuclear winter kicks in and the going gets tough the majority of Indians specifially the southern's and central once will bounce leaving only the northern's fighting but even they are not use to the grind.

The hindus are vegetarians ffs and they definitely don't have the stomach to fight thru a nuclear winter with massive starvation.

Regardless this war will turn into a war attrition and it will always favor Pakistan currently. Pakistan can increase it's cap on India

india is nothing , you have already beaten russia and america .

 

[dreambear]

You're out of your mind RAFALE is serious threat for Pakistan's security, its a one of the best 4.5 gen jet on the planet, unless we will buy J-10C or Su-35 for counter

China is willing to provide J16 if Pakistan needs it.After the Taiwan issue is resolved, China may even give Pakistan some advanced fighter jets for free.
China is not a warlike country.China's military development is primarily aimed at reunifying Taiwan.

 

[fitpOsitive]

In recent years, Pakistan has imported a large number of advanced weapons and equipment from China at a very low price. With the help of these advanced equipments, Pakistan will be able to fight India independently within three years.
The air force
Pakistan will be imported from China 100 JF - 17 block Ⅲ. The aircraft is equipped with an active phased array radar with a detection range of up to 170 kilometers. And, JF - 17 block Ⅲ can also launch PL - 15 missile which has a range of more than 200 kilometers. The PL-15 air-to-air missile is China's most advanced air-to-air missile and is currently equipped with the J20 and J16. The PL-15 was also exported for the first time.

India's fighters are dominated by Russian-made aircraft, along with some old F-16s and 36 Rafale. Russian jets have a poor avionics system. Rafale is the only Indian fighter aircraft currently equipped with an ACTIVE phased array radar.
The air-to-air missile that the Indian fighter aircraft is equipped with has the longest range of the Modified Russian R-77, which has a range of 150 kilometers. It's still not as good as PL-15. This gives Pakistan's air force the ability to fire out of range of Indian warplanes.
Also, Pakistan has imported four ZDK-03 early Warning aircraft from China, which can detect Indian warplanes from 500 km away.
The ZDK-03, in conjunction with the JF-17, allows the PaF to detect and fire first.

Although the JF-17 is a light fighter with less payload, range, power, and flexibility than the Su 30, the PL-15's longer-range makes it a sitting target.

Pakistan also was introduced into China from 48 Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV. Look at the recent Nagorno-Karabakh war. Tanks, armored vehicles are useless against drones.

The army
Pakistan has imported 300 VT4 tanks from China. The arrival of the tanks will significantly increase the strength of the Pakistani army.

The navy
Pakistan has imported 4 054APS and 8 S20 from China. The fleet will double Pakistan's naval strength. The most advanced vessels in the Indian Navy are the kilo-class submarine. The Kilo-class submarine is more than 30 years old, and many systems lag behind the S20. The S20's comprehensive performance far exceeds the Kilo-class submarine.

If India wants to get more advanced equipment, it will have to pay several times or even dozens of times the price. An aircraft Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV is only $2 million, while India buys from the United States MQ - 9 Reaper UAV, units more than 100 million dollars. A JF - 17 block Ⅲ just $40 million, while a Rafale unit price $220 million.

We put more emphasis on technique rather than weapon.