With possible Iranian Israeli escalation in the region how should Turkey position itself?

[Taskforce]

wont happen . both are cowards to confront each other rather then using proxies.

That is why Israel is pushing US to attack Iran, dummy. Israel has very strong lobby in the US.

Israel can devastate and destroy Iranian troops, assets and presence in Syria on its own. They won’t need help with that but when Israel hits Iran it will hit it with the help of the US and Arab coalition.

I’m against this Iran Israel war since it will also have bad outcome for Turkey. There are 25 million Azeri in Iran. Turkey should protect these people. If Farsi want to fight suicidal battle against Israel go ahead but not everybody should suffer because of Ayatollah foreign policy.

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

That is why Israel is pushing US to attack Iran, dummy. Israel has very strong lobby in the US.

Israel can devastate and destroy Iranian troops, assets and presence in Syria on its own. They won’t need help with that but when Israel hits Iran it will hit it with the help of the US and Arab coalition.

I’m against this Iran Israel war since it will also have bad outcome for Turkey. There are 25 million Azeri in Iran. Turkey should protect these people. If Farsi want to fight suicidal battle against Israel go ahead but not everybody should suffer because of Ayatollah foreign policy.

In all your message you talk about Israel attacking Iran, then you say "if Farsi want to fight suicidal battle".

 

[Bismarck]

True. But the problem is that Iran won’t listen.

Or Israel. It’s more likely that USA will fight the battle for Israel.

This whole situation will depend on Russia and not Turkey, imo. Russia does not want any kind of war reversing their progress in Syria. Iran doesn't have military capabilities in Syria to retailate to Israeli attacks. But they do have to come up with some kind of affordable reprisals.

Syria should try to get Golan heights back first with Russian help.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

That is why Israel is pushing US to attack Iran, dummy. Israel has very strong lobby in the US.

Israel can devastate and destroy Iranian troops, assets and presence in Syria on its own. They won’t need help with that but when Israel hits Iran it will hit it with the help of the US and Arab coalition.

I’m against this Iran Israel war since it will also have bad outcome for Turkey. There are 25 million Azeri in Iran. Turkey should protect these people. If Farsi want to fight suicidal battle against Israel go ahead but not everybody should suffer because of Ayatollah foreign policy.

isreal cant expel iran out of syria that easily .
iron dome is a hoax wait for a layer of rocket attacks and iron dome's bubble will be burst . thats what israel fear most and iran knows that .
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iran is arming hezbullah with rockets and missiles and stretching from Lebanon to golan heights.
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right now syria is the battle ground . a direct conflict between iran and israel isnt that easyto happen.

 

[Bismarck]

That's a testing bed project for future projects, all that was created was a prototype model.

Air force is not priority of Iran, using air force is not iran's strategy.


Of course he is talking rubbish, but every time Iranian is killed there is a response for Israel. No Iranian was injured or killed these days, Zionists only use it as excuse to illegally strike Syria.

It's a shame you think Turkey lacks the moral principles to stand against Israel.

Any reliable air defence system?

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

Any reliable air defence system?

S-300PMU2 + Pantsir + Raad (Iranian Buk equivalent) + Tor + Herz 9 + Talash (with Sayyad 2/3) + sepehr OTH radar + misagh-3 (3rd generation MANPAD based on QW1-Vanguard) etc.

bavar 373 (indigenous and improved equivalent to s-300) will be announced formally next month as well.

 

[925boy]

wont happen . both are cowards to confront each other rather then using proxies.

But your country also uses proxies to to attack India, so aren't you being a hypocrite?

 

[Bismarck]

LOL.
Why are you so mad? It's fact and reality.

In a Iran-Israel war the Israelis would dominate, just because Air superiority. --> Arab-Israeli wars.

I am not hundred percent sure. With a massive attack of missiles they can destroy the airfields, by that the jets can’t start. Israel is a small state and high populous. Destroying ammunition stores and fuel stocks in the second stage....Iranian landforces can cross Iraq and Syria without any problems. Israel can’t.

 

[925boy]

isreal cant expel iran out of syria that easily .
iron dome is a hoax wait for a layer of rocket attacks and iron dome's bubble will be burst . thats what israel fear most and iran knows that .
.
iran is arming hezbullah with rockets and missiles and stretching from Lebanon to golan heights.
.
right now syria is the battle ground . a direct conflict between iran and israel isnt that easyto happen.

I agree with you here. Iran was able to create effective deterrence against Israel using a small country-Lebanon. Iran can create effective deterrence easier in Syria considering the resources available(vs Lebanon).

 

[Crystal-Clear]

But your country also uses proxies to to attack India, so aren't you being a hypocrite?

hypocrite in which sense ?
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india is killing kashmiris every now and then.
we are just arming them

 

[Taskforce]

I am not hundred percent sure. With a massive attack of missiles they can destroy the airfields, by that the jets can’t start. Israel is a small state and high populous. Destroying ammunition stores and fuel stocks in the second stage....Iranian landforces can cross Iraq and Syria without any problems. Israel can’t.

Let’s say Iran completes stage 1 and 2 which I doubt since Iranians don’t have the capability. What then? It moves into Iraq and Syria (which won’t be allowed since they don’t want to be the battle ground) who will give Iranians air cover against US fighter jets? US has air bases everywhere.

 

[Bismarck]

Let’s say Iran completes stage 1 and 2 which I doubt since Iranians don’t have the capability. What then? It moves into Iraq and Syria (which won’t be allowed since they don’t want to be the battle ground) who will give Iranians air cover against US fighter jets? US has air bases everywhere.

They can’t match USA, no doubt. For you, Turkey should ask themselves one question. Whom of them (Iran or Israel) would support Turkey if they fought any enemy.

 

[Taskforce]

They can’t match USA, no doubt. For you, Turkey should ask themselves one question. Whom of them (Iran or Israel) would support Turkey if they fought any enemy.

Historically?

Israel helped us against PKK. It was Mossad who captured Öcalan. They helped us with tech development and even gave ToT.

Iran on the other hand helped all of our enemies. They help PKK as we speak. Flirt with YPG. Turn blind eye to them in Zagros mountains. They support Armenia against Azerbaijan. List goes on.

Having said that. I think Turkey needs to find balance between Israel and Iran but I’m leaning towards Israel because they can be trusted and they have honor. Israel just wants to survive while Iran wants to kick dirt in the region.

 

[what]

I think this post should be closed as its discussing something highly hypotethical and pure speculation. And the relevance for Turkey is rather small.

 

[925boy]

hypocrite in which sense ?

Pakistani army relies on Kashmiris or freedom fighters to fight INdia. Why doesnt PA fight India directly?.
india is killing kashmiris every now and then.

we are just arming them

Which means you use them as proxies, which is what u accuse Iran and Israel of doing, but you're also doing the same, so whatever negative thing you said about them, by default, applies to you also.