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Will Turkey receive F-35 Joint Strike Fighters from The USA?

Will Turkey receive F-35 Joint Strike Fighters from The USA?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 63.9%
  • No

    Votes: 19 26.4%
  • Yes, but not in the next 2 years

    Votes: 7 9.7%

  • Total voters
    72
  • Poll closed .
why Turkey want to purchase S-400 !! What will it be used against ? ISIS ? Israel ? NATO !!!!
 
Greece obviously. Our other neighbors don't have capable airforces for us to station air defence next to them.
 
why Turkey want to purchase S-400 !! What will it be used against ? ISIS ? Israel ? NATO !!!!
We asked first for patriots but they said no. And now we want s400 now they make huge deal out of it
 
We asked first for patriots but they said no. And now we want s400 now they make huge deal out of it
Oh. Was not aware of this. There is no reason to deny patriot to a NATO member..
 

Turkey set to receive its first F-35 fighter jets, despite congressional opposition
Amanda Macias | Natasha Turak
Published 3 Hours Ago Updated 1 Hour AgoCNBC.com
  • The two fifth-generation jets are the first of what NATO member and F-35 program partner Turkey hopes will be the start of a 100-strong fleet.
  • Both House and Senate versions of the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act contain restrictions on Turkey's participation in the F-35 program due to Ankara's plan to buy Russia's advanced S-400 air defense system.
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Lockheed Martin's F-35A Lightning II fighter jet for the Israeli Air Force.


Despite opposition from Congress, Turkey will receive its first F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets from the Pentagon's top weapons supplier on Thursday.

Following a formal handoff ceremony at Lockheed Martin's F-35 facility in Fort Worth, Texas, the defense giant will ferry the aircraft to Luke Air Force Base in Arizona where Turkish pilots will begin training alongside U.S. airmen.

The two fifth-generation jets are the first of what the NATO member and F-35 program partner hopes will be the start of a 100-strong fleet.


has remained defiant. "When it becomes necessary, we will use the S-400," he told local media earlier this month. "What are we going to do if we don't use the defense system — are we going to rely on the United States?"

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment.




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  • June 21 2018 19:02:00
Turkey vows ‘contribution to global peace’ as credible NATO ally, receives first F-35
Serkan Demirtaş - FORT WORTH, Texas
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Turkey has vowed to continue its contribution to global peace and security as a credible NATO ally on the day it officially received its first F-35A stealth fighter from the contractor Lockheed Martin in a symbolic but milestone ceremony at the aerospace’s company headquarters in Fort Worth, Texas on June 21.

“Turkey has allocated a significant amount of financial sources to this partnership and has provided an enormous contribution to the program from the very beginning. Plus, the joining of the Turkish industry has an important impact on the cost effectiveness of this program,” said Defense Industries Deputy Undersecretariat Serdar Demirel at the rollout ceremony for the first F-35A.

“As Turkey continues to serve global and peace and security as a reliable and committed NATO ally, the deployment of F-35s will help the protection of our security and territorial integrity of our country for future generations,” Demirel said.

“All the Turkish Air Force shares the same excitement I have today,” said Major General Reha Ufuk Er at the ceremony on behalf of the Turkish General Staff. “Turkey will provide better interoperability for the NATO operations with F-35s,” he said, adding that the procurement of the warplanes will open a new chapter for the Turkish Air Forces.

The first two F-35s will soon be transferred to Luke Air Force Base in Arizona where Turkish instructor pilots and maintainers will undertake a lengthy training program. Turkey’s plan is to procure 100 F-35s in the next few decades.

Lockheed Martin CEO and President Marillyn Hewson expressed her honor in delivering the first f-35A to the Republic of Turkey. She said she was certain the F-35s would play a crucial role in enhancing global security, as this new generation sophisticated warplane will have a transformative role with its high technology and capabilities.

A number of Turkish companies have been producing some key parts of the F-35s in line with the memorandum of understanding the SSM signed with the Lockheed Martin in 2007.

Lockheed Martin hails Turkish role

“Turkey is a valuable partner and we really enjoy it. In fact, we have had a decades-old partnership with Turkey dating back to the production of F-16s,” F-35 Business Development and Strategy Integration Vice President Jack Crisler told a group of journalists in a briefing at the Lockheed Martin headquarters, a day before the ceremony.

Crisler recalled Turkey joined the F-35program in 2002 and its defense industry procurer, the Undersecreteriat for Defense Industries, signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Lockheed Martin for becoming a part of the production chain through manufacturing certain parts of F-35s by Turkish companies.

“The Turkish industry is doing great job in producing quality parts and delivering them on time,” the vice president said.

“We proudly announce Turkey’s participation [in the production of F-35s],” he said.

Turkey is planning to procure around 100 F-35s. Thirty of them have already been contracted. With Lockheed Martin planning to ramp up to full rate production for the next ones, it is believed that Turkey will be able to deploy its new squadron by the end of next decade. The production process of an F-35 fighter is around 36 months.

Decrease cost, increase production

“Our plan is to decrease the cost while increasing production,” Crisler underlined, informing that the cost of an F-35 has decreased 60 percent in only a decade and is now $94 million. “Our target is to decrease the cost to $80 million by 2020,” he said, underlining the importance of affordability of these new generation fighters.

Turkey’s first F-35 will be deployed to Turkey in the third quarter of 2019 and it will be operational by the fourth quarter of 2020, according to the Lockheed Martin official. In between, Turkey’s instructor pilots will be trained at the Luke Air Force Base in Arizona for more than a year before returning to Turkey to train other Turkish pilots.

Crisler informed that more than 300 aircrafts have already been delivered to different air forces in the world and 620 pilots and more than 5,000 maintainers have been trained in the United States.

F-35s in eyes of fighter pilot

For those who have no information and interest on developments in the field of warfighters, F-35s are just another member of U.S.-manufactured F series fighters like F-4s, F-104, F-16s or F-22s, and Raptors.

But for those who fly all these cited warfighters, the F-35s clearly display a new phenomenon. Billie Flynn, a former fighter pilot for the Royal Canadian Air Force and now an F-35 test pilot at the Lockheed Martin, explained the difference.

“There are two main characteristics of F-35s: Stealth and sensor fusion,” the experienced pilot said during a briefing with Turkish journalists.

“Stealth means invincibility, effectivity, and lethality because you cannot be seen. Sensor fusion means you can see everything at a 300 kilometer range and in 360 degrees when you fly 10,000 kilometers high. We sense everything in the air, in the sea and on land,” Flynn said. “We cannot be seen but we can see everything,” he said.

Political debates no issue with Lockheed Martin

The only thing top officials of the Lockheed Martin do not want to talk is the ongoing political debates between the Turkish and American governments and the ongoing processes at the U.S. Senate for blocking the delivery of F-35s to Turkey.

“We know there are a lot of political debates and there are issues between the Turkish and American governments. These are issues between the two governments and not with Lockheed Martin,” Lockheed Martin Communications Vice President Joe LaMarca told media representatives on June 20.

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Turkey set to receive its first F-35 fighter jets, despite congressional opposition
  • The two fifth-generation jets are the first of what NATO member and F-35 program partner Turkey hopes will be the start of a 100-strong fleet.
  • Both House and Senate versions of the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act contain restrictions on Turkey's participation in the F-35 program due to Ankara's plan to buy Russia's advanced S-400 air defense system.
Amanda Macias | Natasha Turak
Published 11 Hours Ago Updated 9 Hours AgoCNBC.com

Courtesy of Lockheed Martin
Lockheed Martin's F-35A Lightning II fighter jet for the Israeli Air Force.
Despite opposition from Congress, Turkey will receive its first F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets from the Pentagon's top weapons supplier on Thursday.

Following a formal handoff ceremony at Lockheed Martin's F-35 facility in Fort Worth, Texas, the defense giant will ferry the aircraft to Luke Air Force Base in Arizona where Turkish pilots will begin training alongside U.S. airmen.

The two fifth-generation jets are the first of what the NATO member and F-35 program partner hopes will be the start of a 100-strong fleet.


However, both House and Senate versions of the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act contain restrictions on Turkey's participation in the F-35 program due to Ankara's plan to buy Russia's advanced S-400 air defense system.

On Tuesday, the Senate voted 85 to 10 to block the sale, citing the deal with the Russians as well as Turkey's continued detention of American pastor Andrew Brunson, who was accused of spying and attempting to overthrow the government in 2016. He has denied all charges.

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim called the Senate vote "lamentable," describing it as against the spirit of NATO. He added that his country was "not without alternatives."

The Russian-made missile system, which is equipped with eight launchers and 32 missiles, is capable of targeting stealth warplanes like the F-35 fighter.

"The Turkish government claims to have purchased a Russian air defense system designed to shoot these very planes down," Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., said last week on the Senate floor. "We would be handing this technology over to the Kremlin if we granted Turkey these planes, and Congress will not stand for it."


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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
What's more, the air defense system's radar could reveal vulnerabilities in the jet that Turkey could then relay to Russia. The conflict of interests among NATO partners is proving a growing headache for the alliance.

"There is a general concern across the NATO alliance, and certainly within the Department of Defense and now in Congress, that the Turkish purchase of an S-400 would allow the Russians to have a backdoor into very hyperactive radar readings of the alliance's front-line jet for decades," Aaron Stein, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, told CNBC.

"If you kick Turkey out of the F-35 program, you're basically saying that they can't be trusted with this fighter jet and that calls into question the NATO alliance."

Todd Harrison, senior fellow and director of defense budget analysis at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that it would likely take months before the Senate's measure became law.

"So in the meantime, the administration can move ahead with the sale because it is not yet prohibited in law," Harrison told CNBC.

'A really nasty fight'
But things could get dicey later down the road — in the next eight to 12 months, when the S-400 is set to be deployed in Turkey.

"There could be some efforts to block funding or the transfer of those jets out of the U.S. and into Turkey," Stein said.

"I would say we are looking at an eight-month timeline to get this resolved, otherwise we are going to come down to a really nasty fight over the transfer of the jets to Turkey."

In response to questions over the S-400 purchase, Turkish President Recep Erdogan has remained defiant. "When it becomes necessary, we will use the S-400," he told local media earlier this month. "What are we going to do if we don't use the defense system — are we going to rely on the United States?"

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment.




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There are at least 5-6 threads about Turkey’s F-35s posted on the front page only in which we discuss the same speculations and rumors over and over again...

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