Will the US defend Philippines if China attacks?

[HongWu]

Yes, during this time and for at this moment, U.S still staying at neutral possition for Free Navigation Route in SCS. However China keeps going crazy and things are turns bad then U.S could changes its mind.

Yes, during this time no U.S troops staying in Subic, Cam Ranh. I don't know about Philippines, However, Viet Nam has people willing to fight and its fight for best.

Yes, during this time U.S has zero aids for Viet Nam nor Philippines to against China, However, things are escalated and Free Nagivation Route could not happens, then U.S will supplies whatever its needed to be.

Gambit did not claims anything, he just try to correct you from wrong to right, However, you miss guided then turns out that you put words in his mouths.

We saw how you tried to fight in 1988 and we just turned you into fish food with machine guns. We saw how you tried to play tough in 1984 and we just mowed you down like weeds with machine guns.

China's machine guns helps Viets contribute something back to the planet. The world just laughs because it is normal to see China beating down Vietnam.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not really the scenario any more, man. I doubt you guys will ever intervene in other countries' wars even if shyte hits the fan for them. Not specifically the Filipinos, but the entire eastern belt. Let's see, your military encouragement to Georgians nearly had them obliterated by Russia; North Korea still exists and Japan's concerns against the Communists is only increasing; perhaps more than what it used to be during Soviet era. Not to mention, Taiwan is getting weary of US indecision to supply it weapons.

Indeed the foundation of US military and strategic might has been its commitment towards its allies but if things go bad here and you don't intervene in any visible manner, the remaining belt of allies won't be very pleased with you.

Just thinking it out loud.

Japan has the its own motive of dragging US down into the conflict against China, so China vs USA is the only chance for Japan to become a normal country since the WWII.

 

[Martian2]

U.S. did nothing to help its ally South Vietnam as China took control of Paracel Islands in 1974

Since the U.S. didn't lift a finger to help the democratic South Vietnamese in 1974 as China took control of the Paracel Islands, why would the U.S. lift a finger to help communist Vietnam in the South China Sea?

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China's Military Moment - By Jim Holmes | Foreign Policy

"China's Military Moment
A window of opportunity is closing in the South China Sea. Will Beijing strike?
BY JIM HOLMES | JULY 26, 2012

...
Chinese vessels carrying amphibious troops and operating under fighter cover from nearby Hainan Island engaged a South Vietnamese flotilla bereft of air support. One Vietnamese destroyer escort lay at the bottom of the South China Sea following the daylong battle. China's flag fluttered over the islands.

The skirmish was real -- and the date was Jan. 17, 1974. (article continues)"

 

[dunhill]

Not China is crazy, but US views you guys as useless to contain against China, now she is using Japan to do the dirty work for her.

But US will make sure not letting herself involved into a direct confrontation against China, but using other lesser countries to weaken China.

Yes, under Chinese views China is not crazy but the other don't. Who cares right?

If Viet Nam is useless then why China still keep waiting for? Based on the "Chinese group hawks" in China and even here, China support to make more strong action? Does it too slow for you? Does it means to you and why does it takes slow action to Viet Nam?

Does it scare of Viet Nam that it may not win? Does it afraid that Viet Nam will give another FREE lesson that China could not takes? Don't you think?

 

[gambit]

At Gambit, I was born in Taipei, Taiwan. English is my third language after Taiwanese and Mandarin. I try harder than the ESL (English as a Second Language) students.

And yet you treat your country of citizenship like sh1t. Nice.

Anyway, my views have been very objective because they are supported by facts. You (Gambit) get emotional and make crazy claims.

You are famous for making wild interpretations from facts.

I have a citation for China's battles with South Vietnam over South China Sea islands (where the U.S. stayed neutral). I just don't feel like looking for the citation to prove an obvious point.

Everybody knows the U.S. is not coming to the aid of the Philippines or Vietnam. If the U.S. intended to help, troops would already be flooding into Subic Bay and Cam Ranh Bay. However, there isn't a single American soldier at either former naval base.

Let us keep this simple as all of you often does, shall we: If China is so certain that the US would not interfere and could have defeated the Viets and take the SCS region, China would have done it a long time ago.

 

[Martian2]

I don't agree with you one bit.

No American is more patriotic than I in arguing American lives should not be wasted on other countries' disputes.

However, I won't delve into personal issues.

My citations (see post #63) speak for themselves.

 

[gambit]

Don't agree with you one bit.

However, I won't delve into personal issues.

My citations (see post #63) speak for themselves.

But the lot of you have no problems doing it to others.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes, under Chinese views China is not crazy but the other don't. Who cares right?

If Viet Nam is useless then why China still keep waiting for? Based on the "Chinese group hawks" in China and even here, China support to make more strong action? Does it too slow for you? Does it means to you and why does it takes slow action to Viet Nam?

Does it scare of Viet Nam that it may not win? Does it afraid that Viet Nam will give another FREE lesson that China could not takes? Don't you think?

Because China is not the trigger-happy executioner, otherwise she would have bombed your worthless country long time ago, not because the world cares about you guys.

 

[NiceGuy]

We did not even use air force, what did we ask for US spy satellite for???

Keep your lies out of here.

You Did use, but air-combat is always too difficult for low IQ china to deploy. so, PLA only could deploy infantry under US spy satellite's observation

PLAAF was used, just not effectively.
What the PLA Learned in Vietnam, 1979

J-6 (MiG-19) downed during VN-Sino war.

Learn history properly before coming here and talk, don't show to people how low IQ you are again,dude

 

[dunhill]

Because China is not the trigger-happy executioner, otherwise she would have bombed your worthless country long time ago, not because the world cares about you guys.

Oh yeah?

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1988 its only killed Vietnamese sailors in SCS.

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1974 its only killed Vietnamese sailors in SCS.

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1979 its only killed thousands of villages people included infants.

Otherwise, China could pulled of her mask then the World could see her real ugly face and no one could turn off. Am I right?

Get back at the square 1, If China could able do things, its will make it happens. Unlike Tibet, Viet Nam is not a country for China easy to crushed from time to time. Am I right?

 

[Martian2]

Oh yeah?

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1988 its only killed Vietnamese sailors in SCS.

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1974 its only killed Vietnamese sailors in SCS.

Because, China is not the trigger-happy executioner, that is why in 1979 its only killed thousands of villages people included infants.

Otherwise, China could pulled of her mask then the World could see her real ugly face and no one could turn off. Am I right?

Get back at the square 1, If China could able do things, its will make it happens. Unlike Tibet, Viet Nam is not a country for China easy to crushed from time to time. Am I right?

The United States killed MILLIONS of Vietnamese like dogs and you don't complain.

China killed a few Vietnamese marines and you're whining to high heaven. What's the deal?

In comparison, China looks like an angel.

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http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/modules/vietnam/

"The Vietnam War cost the United States 58000 lives and 350000 casualties. It also resulted in between one and two million Vietnamese deaths. 2. Congress ..."

 

[rcrmj]

The United States killed MILLIONS of Vietnamese like dogs and you don't complain.

China killed a few Vietnamese marines and you're whining to high heaven. What's the deal?----------

The Vietnam War

"The Vietnam War cost the United States 58000 lives and 350000 casualties. It also resulted in between one and two million Vietnamese deaths. 2. Congress ..."

monkey deal```can only be tamed with heavy stick whipping

 

[dunhill]

The United States killed MILLIONS of Vietnamese like dogs and you don't complain.

China killed a few Vietnamese marines and you're whining to high heaven. What's the deal?

In comparison, China looks like an angel.

What made you think that Viet Nam does not complain when U.S drops bombs, kill Vietnamese people?

What about China? For a 1000 years we have been struggled to fight with you, the number of death people could built 2 new China Great wall. So, you expecting we treats you as an angels? Yes .... hell angles that could be.

Before you talking U.S kill Vietnamese, you SHOULD check up yours China first, then you can talk about it. Look at your map, China getting bigger that is not built for the nature of China. It was build for the bloody of the nations was complete wiped out from time to time for its bigger.

By my opinion, when China was poor and the World look downs on its, some of them (Chinese overseas) die trying to get out of that land, and now China getting strong then that group pretending to shows its loves. That's a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[ViXuyen]

The United States killed MILLIONS of Vietnamese like dogs and you don't complain.

China killed a few Vietnamese marines and you're whining to high heaven. What's the deal?

In comparison, China looks like an angel.

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The Vietnam War

"The Vietnam War cost the United States 58000 lives and 350000 casualties. It also resulted in between one and two million Vietnamese deaths. 2. Congress ..."

You guys don't get it. It's not the number of casualties that set you apart from the American or vice versa. What set you apart from them is you invaded our Paracel islands in 1974. If you guys did not invade the Paracel island, the 1979 war was more than likely not happened and Viet Nam today would more than likely hold a neutral view toward you guys.

 

[HongWu]

monkey deal```can only be tamed with heavy stick whipping

They love it when invaders kill millions of them. They accept their inferiority and move on. But when you are too gentle, they think you are weak, and become more aggressive to try to take advantage of this weakness. Biggest mistake ever is to help them when they cry out for help or mercy because they think you are so stupid you deserve to be backstabbed.

Dirty Viets will never change: a nasty, aggressive, cheap life with a big mouth and delusions of greatness. A small-time local bully in a slum neighborhood. Against these dirty Viets, as soon as you take your boot off of their throat, they jump up, fill themselves with delusions of "Dai Viet" and strut about cocky again.

This time we dump chemical and biological weapons all over their cities. A final end to the delusion they call their 1000-year resistance against China.