Will S.Korea and Japan fall into developing countries because of fierce competition from China?

[hirobo2]

Crucial tech can't support 100m Japanese current living standard! Japan's 40% GDP are car related. Lets say it's car sell shirk by half, Japan will lost more than 30% of current GDP. Japan government revune will not even cover the debt interest by then! This is what happen when you gambled wrong tech for 30 years!

Japan Tried to Build a Hydrogen Society. It Backfired Spectacularly.​

Japan Tried to Build a Hydrogen Society. It Backfired Spectacularly.

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

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My God, at least try to have a slight understanding of the way Japanese industry works. They can only compete in niche areas. Like when Hyundai started making better quality cars, Toyota panicked and started making cars with really weird and wacky designs. Not saying Hyundai makes better cars than Toyota, just that Hyundai improved the quality of their cars from a few years ago. So, Toyota could no longer compete based on quality. That is why they deviated into competing based on looks. Explains why today's Toyotas look like hipster cars and very ugly.

It's the same with hydrogen. Yes, it backfired on them. But to say they gambled wrong is just plain WRONG. Japan never ventures into sectors where other countries can make similar products with half the quality and better economy of scale. They didn't sneer at EV and placed the wrong bet on Hydrogen. It was their ONLY choice becoz Japan can only compete in areas not already done by others (or not to the same standard of quality ie. the old Huyndai that made crappy cars vs the old Toyota that made reliable cars!)

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, Japan saw that they could not compete effectively in EV and gave it a pass. It looked like they made the wrong/dumb choice on the surface BUT only to those who never truly understood how the Japanese tends to avoid crowded industries!

 

[antonius123]

My God, at least try to have a slight understanding of the way Japanese industry works. They can only compete in niche areas. Like when Hyundai started making better quality cars, Toyota panicked and started making cars with really weird and wacky designs. Not saying Hyundai makes better cars than Toyota, just that Hyundai improved the quality of their cars from a few years ago. So, Toyota could no longer compete based on quality. That is why they deviated into competing based on looks. Explains why today's Toyotas look like hipster cars and very ugly.

It's the same with hydrogen. Yes, it backfired on them. But to say they gambled wrong is just plain WRONG. Japan never ventures into sectors where other countries can make similar products with half the quality and better economy of scale. They didn't sneer at EV and placed the wrong bet on Hydrogen. It was their ONLY choice becoz Japan can only compete in areas not already done by others (or not to the same standard of quality ie. the old Huyndai that made crappy cars vs the old Toyota that made reliable cars!)

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, Japan saw that they could not compete effectively in EV and gave it a pass. It looked like they made the wrong/dumb choice on the surface BUT only to those who never truly understood how the Japanese tends to avoid crowded industries!

It seems because Japan is not willing to sacrifice their Combustion Engine auto supply chain which are the backbone of Japan economy. If Japan switch to EV, there will be many auto parts (CE) business close, and with the conservatism culture, Japan is not willing to take huge change then decide to sustain their CE business through the Hydrogen society.

 

[beijingwalker]

It seems because Japan is not willing to sacrifice their Combustion Engine auto supply chain which are the backbone of Japan economy. If Japan switch to EV, there will be many auto parts (CE) business close, and with the conservatism culture, Japan is not willing to take huge change then decide to sustain their CE business through the Hydrogen society.

A rock and a hard place.