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Will Pakistan Buy Turkey’s New Advanced Main Battle Tank?
Islamabad purportedly has expressed interest in acquiring Istanbul’s new main battle tank, according to media reports.

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By Franz-Stefan Gady
January 29, 2016
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The head of Turkey’s defense procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, Ismail Demir announced earlier this month during a testimony in parliament that Pakistan’s military is interested in procuring the country’s first indigenously-designed third generation+ main battle tank, dubbed Altay,according to local media reports.

Including Pakistan and the Gulf countries, we can say that countries that we have good relations with are showing a large interest in the tank. Representatives of some countries are being invited to the ongoing firing tests,” Demir said. Tests are currently underway in Turkey’s Sarıkamış district in the eastern province of Kars.

The Altay main battle tank (MBT) is named after Army General Fahrettin Altay, a Turkish cavalry commander from the Turkish War of Independence. In 2008, the Turkish Ministry of Defense awarded the Turkish military vehicles manufacturer Otokar a $500 million contract for the design, development, and production of four MBT prototypes.

Otokar entered into a system development deal with South Korean tank maker, Hyundai Rotem, whose K2 Black Panther tank project serves as the basis for the development of the Altay. Both tanks share the same base design including the chassis, although the Altay is purportedly slightly longer, equipped with heavier armor, and, in comparison to the K2 MBT also sports a modified turret with composite armor.

Both tanks are also armed with a 120-millimeter smoothbore gun, although the K2 Black Panther MBT is equipped with an automatic loader, whereas the gun on the Altay has to be loaded manually. Furthermore, theAltay MBT has a laser guided missile firing capability and is additionally armed with 7.62 millimeter coaxial machine gun and a pintle-mounted 12.7 millimeter machine gun up top.

The Altay can accommodate a crew of four and with its German-made 1,500 horsepower engine can reach a maximum speed of up to 70 kilometers per hour (43 mph). In October 2015, Turkish engine maker TUMOSANsigned an agreement with the Austrian firm, AVL List, for technical support in designing an indigenous engine for for future batches of the Altay MBT.

Five prototype tanks are currently undergoing system qualification and acceptance tests. “The tests, meanwhile, are extremely satisfying,” according to Ismail Demir. Defense News reports that Otokar has recently submitted a serial production proposal for an initial batch of 250 tanks “and integrated logistical support for the program.”

Serial production is slated to begin in 2017. Turkey plans to produce up to 1,000 tanks. Two other Turkish arms manufacturers will compete for the contract.

As of now, Pakistan has not officially expressed interest in the procurement of the Altay, although in January 2015, representatives of Pakistan’s defense industry said that they are considering procuring the Altay’s third generation thermal imagining sight for the Al-Khalid MBT, jointly developed by Pakistan and China during the 1990s. Islamabad is in the process of enlarging its force of main battle tanks.
 
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if you can afford it :wave:sure why not

let's say it's 6 million a piece and you want 250 that'll be $1.5 billion+ buying the ammo/training/maintenance hubs etc etc you are looking at $2 billion dollars.

having a tank that uses 120mm instead of 125 could cause logistical problems in case of a war as well.
 
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Turkey might provide us some of the technology of Altay MBT for our own MBTs IN SAH ALLAH.:pakistan::yahoo:
 
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Remind me what was the point of the Al-Khalid program if we buy externally?
Sir I think more powerful engines not available for Al Khalid II.

I am sure Pakistan will go for Chinese Tank since Altay is using German engine and very prone to sanctions. Even re-export permission required in case of any deal.
 
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We need mix and diversity; also Al Khalid is mainly a light tank and compared to Altay it is not as technologically advanced.
Pakistan cant field heavy tanks like Atlay also i am sure it will fail in Pakistani conditions. Pakistan rejected most tanks due to their bad performance on pakistani soil. If we want something it is better to get a customised version from china which is better logistically as well.

Diversity also bring logistic problems which is the main reason pakistan never opted for multiple types of platforms whether it is Airforce, navy or army.
 
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Will Pakistan Buy Turkey’s New Advanced Main Battle Tank?
Islamabad purportedly has expressed interest in acquiring Istanbul’s new main battle tank, according to media reports.

thediplomat_2015-01-06_12-04-00-36x36.jpg

By Franz-Stefan Gady
January 29, 2016
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955 Shares
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The head of Turkey’s defense procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, Ismail Demir announced earlier this month during a testimony in parliament that Pakistan’s military is interested in procuring the country’s first indigenously-designed third generation+ main battle tank, dubbed Altay,according to local media reports.

Including Pakistan and the Gulf countries, we can say that countries that we have good relations with are showing a large interest in the tank. Representatives of some countries are being invited to the ongoing firing tests,” Demir said. Tests are currently underway in Turkey’s Sarıkamış district in the eastern province of Kars.

The Altay main battle tank (MBT) is named after Army General Fahrettin Altay, a Turkish cavalry commander from the Turkish War of Independence. In 2008, the Turkish Ministry of Defense awarded the Turkish military vehicles manufacturer Otokar a $500 million contract for the design, development, and production of four MBT prototypes.

Otokar entered into a system development deal with South Korean tank maker, Hyundai Rotem, whose K2 Black Panther tank project serves as the basis for the development of the Altay. Both tanks share the same base design including the chassis, although the Altay is purportedly slightly longer, equipped with heavier armor, and, in comparison to the K2 MBT also sports a modified turret with composite armor.

Both tanks are also armed with a 120-millimeter smoothbore gun, although the K2 Black Panther MBT is equipped with an automatic loader, whereas the gun on the Altay has to be loaded manually. Furthermore, theAltay MBT has a laser guided missile firing capability and is additionally armed with 7.62 millimeter coaxial machine gun and a pintle-mounted 12.7 millimeter machine gun up top.

The Altay can accommodate a crew of four and with its German-made 1,500 horsepower engine can reach a maximum speed of up to 70 kilometers per hour (43 mph). In October 2015, Turkish engine maker TUMOSANsigned an agreement with the Austrian firm, AVL List, for technical support in designing an indigenous engine for for future batches of the Altay MBT.

Five prototype tanks are currently undergoing system qualification and acceptance tests. “The tests, meanwhile, are extremely satisfying,” according to Ismail Demir. Defense News reports that Otokar has recently submitted a serial production proposal for an initial batch of 250 tanks “and integrated logistical support for the program.”

Serial production is slated to begin in 2017. Turkey plans to produce up to 1,000 tanks. Two other Turkish arms manufacturers will compete for the contract.

As of now, Pakistan has not officially expressed interest in the procurement of the Altay, although in January 2015, representatives of Pakistan’s defense industry said that they are considering procuring the Altay’s third generation thermal imagining sight for the Al-Khalid MBT, jointly developed by Pakistan and China during the 1990s. Islamabad is in the process of enlarging its force of main battle tanks.

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I so much want this to happen.Indian Army purchases looks more like tactical than strategical and presence of a heavy tank in PA would surely make the Army look in Arjun's direction.
 
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It is going to be a YES in end indeed while looking at Al-Khalid development plans in future. As a while back, we have been getting closer the Turkey Brethren and have signed defence co-operation deals so it is evident as well that we are going to have something better than before in Al-khalid this time. Hopefully may come like a JV but no sanction prone engine will remain a mystery till then as we are looking for, in first place.
 
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Better use those 1.8 billion for navy our tanks can be good for next 10 years
 
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