'Will not resign on anyone's call': PM dismisses demands to step down

[war&peace]

if these peopel are our hero,s . IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR STATE OF MIND AS A NATION(OR WE JUST A MOB)?????//

Bro we are a nation believe me. We made this country through political struggle under the able leadership of Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Dr. Allama Muhammad Iqbal.
But slowly the corrupt mafia started to take roots and became very strong by penetrating into all the institutions especially that play significant role in power. Nawaz Sharif and his family is the godfather of this mafia. So all the corrupt people, thieves, robber, murderer, smugglers, rapists, child molesters, pedophiles, adulterers, thugs, liars, traitors and terrorists became part of it and they benefit from it. I can tell you with 100% surety that the guys who are supporting and defending them are extremely corrupt themselves and they are doing it for ulterior motives. Most of them are paid troll of bubble butt's media cell and this guy is no different.
So don't blame the whole nation for some black sheep. Their time is over and we will emerge as a united and disciplined nation after getting rid of these vermin.

Aisey logon sey wasta hay tumhara

I really wish he/she/it was physically in front of me...

 

[Finer]

If you like him so much make him pm of the country you live in

But real Pakistanis like Nawaz Sharif and that is why Nawaz Sharif is in the power for the third time. Don't take it out on me. Tell that to real Pakistanis pure Urdu speakers.

 

[Zibago]

Tell that to real Pakistanis pure Urdu speakers.

Hey @PakSword any words of wisdom for this canadian with zero understanding of our political history ?

At the end, it is Pakistan establishment's call. I have feeling that Nawaz Sharif might be able to weather this storm like the past. I doubt Pakistan establishment would risk Nawaz Sharif being forced out nearing the election only for Nawaz Sharif to regroup in the nearest future. If Nawaz Sharif is forced out, then military takeover is on the card because of the historical patterns. Anyone who don't learn from the history are doomed to repeat.

The army has nothing to do with this case you moron

This is pdf forum. It is meant for debate, discussion and informative. You guys don't like it? Feel free to leave this forum. What good is freedom of speech and expression when you guys are incapable of tolerance whether in debate and in general?

Darlin its your kind that is leavin
Lol lessons of tolerance from a party that promotes anti semetism as their weapon against their political rival

Now if you guys are done with your personal girlish tirade, i suggest you guys get back on the topic or leave the thread for others to debate on this topic. No offense!!!

The issue is simple he was caught forging fake documents,doing money laundering and hiding assets the only thing he can do is delay the inevitable

But real Pakistanis like Nawaz Sharif and that is why Nawaz Sharif is in the power for the third time. Don't take it out on me. Tell that to real Pakistanis pure Urdu speakers.

So was the SOuth Koream pm and Brazilian President guess what both are facing corruption probes and dont give me that he got elected so he is immune from any case that is the most absurd nonsense anyone could ever say even Trump who is the most powerful man on earth had to face Russian collusion charges against him

I really wish he/she/it was physically in front of me...

Wait a few more weeks they will start criticizing the country and its creation what else can you expect from Jindalis

 

[Finer]

Hey
So was the SOuth Koream pm and Brazilian President guess what both are facing corruption probes and dont give me that he got elected so he is immune from any case that is the most absurd nonsense anyone could ever say even Trump who is the most powerful man on earth had to face Russian collusion charges against him

But that doesn't change the fact that real Pakistanis who speak pure Urdu voted Nawaz Sharif for the third time. I won't be surprised if Nawaz Sharif wins the election again despite the background [corruption].

I am not the reason Nawaz Sharif is in the power, it is real Pakistanis that is pure Urdu speaking residents using democracy in practice is responsible for Nawaz Sharif for the third time.

As for the rest of your post, i am gonna ignore it since judging by your personal tirade against me appear to be emotional roller coaster ride for you.

 

[Zibago]

I won't be surprised if Nawaz Sharif wins the election again.

That means nothing if he is corrupt he has to go REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT HE WAS ELECTED

But that doesn't change the fact that real Pakistanis who speak pure Urdu voted Nawaz Sharif

You should read his adventures in the 90,s they will inform you a lot of what our political history really is
You are not one you dont understand the history or the case being discussed so its best if you dont comment on things you have no idea about

But that doesn't change the fact that real Pakistanis who speak pure Urdu voted Nawaz Sharif for the third time. I won't be surprised if Nawaz Sharif wins the election again despite the background [corruption].

I am not the reason Nawaz Sharif is in the power, it is real Pakistanis that is pure Urdu speaking residents using democracy in practice is responsible for Nawaz Sharif for the third time.

As for the rest of your post, i am gonna ignore it since judging by your personal tirade against me appear to be emotional roller coaster ride for you.

Ah so you got butthurt by my words how un-original

 

[Finer]

That means nothing if he is corrupt he has to go REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT HE WAS ELECTED

By people. Elected by real Pakistanis Pure Urdu speakers.

You should read his adventures in the 90,s they will inform you a lot of what our political history really is
You are not one you dont understand the history or the case being discussed so its best if you dont comment on things you have no idea about

Of course, i am not acquainted with the political history of Pakistan especially on Nawaz Sharif.

But Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers do and they are acquainted with the political history of Pakistan. That is why Nawaz Sharif is in the powers for the third time - elected by the real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers.

Ah so you got butthurt by my words how un-original

I am used to personal tirade and name calling so i am not bothered anymore. But it is true that resorting to personal tirade and name calling is the sign of insecurity which is clearly being displayed here - again and again and again and again. #hehehe

 

[Zibago]

By people. Elected by real Pakistanis Pure Urdu speakers.

That means shit if he is a criminal

Of course, i am not acquainted with the political history of Pakistan especially on Nawaz Sharif.

SO you shouldnot discuss things you have zero clue on

But Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers do and they are acquainted with the political history of Pakistan. That is why Nawaz Sharif is in the powers for the third time - elected by the real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers.

Lemme tell you one thing Urdu speakers never gave a heavy mandate to Nawaj only upper punjabis did just sayin but i am getting a hinch that you dont know what urdu speaking stands for in Pakistani context

You dont know the ethnic group,you cant read the script,you dont know the history yet you do propaganda against the army of my country without any evidence now you tell me why you should be treated any differently from Indians who do that?

Its best if you focus more on issues you understand or atleast respect institutions of foreign countries

 

[Shane]

Shane,

Two things.

Firstly, the SC has to uphold any case against MNS.
Secondly, YRG is not comparable, he was not his own master, his master AAZ exchanged him for another.

Regards

The smell of the rotting carcas that has our system in its grip for 35 years has become next to unbearable now.

Whoever tried to remove this smell has been confronted by the numerous scavengers that go around guarding it with their life as their existence is threatened by its possible removal.

What we are witnessing is the last stand of this rotting carcass and its defenders.

For further details see my earlier posts as to why NS should resign before his ominous removal for the sake of Pakistan.

In the alleged words of Ch. Nesar added with my opinion in brackets: "Only a (faked) miracle could save you now Mr. PM".

Talking about miracles, I heard someone on the tele say it, may be it was Ansar Abbasi or Orya Maqbol may be: This is the wrath, the disgrace that befalls those who first pledge to end Riba sitting in a holy land and then not only get back on their words when get into power but go on and try to make it acceptable. So an actual miracle as in Islam part seems a bit dodgy.

 

[Finer]

That means shit if he is a criminal

Yet elected by Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers which you choose to ignore the point on purpose.

SO you shouldnot discuss things you have zero clue on

But i don't mind entertaining to the figure with the worth of absolute zero.

Lemme tell you one thing Urdu speakers never gave a heavy mandate to Nawaj only upper punjabis did just sayin but i am getting a hinch that you dont know what urdu speaking stands for in Pakistani context

No offense but you are the one who made it priority about Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, i didn't.

I am the one who just gave you the lecture of mixture of state/races, multiculturalism, principle of liberal values and freedom of speech and expression which apparently flew over you head since you were persistence with your conservative on Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers.

Ironically, most of Imranistan are majority Pakhtoons that do not fit in the category of Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, not to mention Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers are more inclined towards MQM than PTI, and even today election in Karachi showed that PTI was the last by votes - even beaten by PMLN.

Then you implied by not saying anything when i asked whether people who voted for Nawaz Sharif and the political leaders other than Imran Khan does qualify as Real Pakistanis or not. So you basically summed it up with your ignorant mindset over majority of Real Pakistanis that contradicts with your narrative.

On the top of it, your persistence on discouraging other members from debating on the topic related to Pakistan politics simply because they are out of Pakistan or overseas Pakistanis for that matter which is not same as Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers according to you.

Yet you appear to be contradictory given the fact that not long ago Imran Khan did argue to mandate the rights of overseas Pakistan to vote for Pakistan election through the online system.

Your effort to discourage overseas Pakistan from being active on Pakistan political affairs despite the fact that majority of overseas Pakistanis [cannot read Urdu] are pro-Imran Khan while majority Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers [your versions] are the one who voted for Nawaz Sharif for the third time.

You dont know the ethnic group,you cant read the script,you dont know the history yet you do propaganda against the army of my country without any evidence now you tell me why you should be treated any differently from Indians who do that?

Considering your racial mindset towards Pakistani Punjabis that voted for Nawaz Sharif should be the last to talk about the ethnic when you cannot wait to define the status of Real Pakistanis over the affiliation with the political ideology, political leaders, and language barrier.

Not only ago, you were caught perpetuating all over the forms that Nawaz Sharif is the product of the main establishment. Now you have respect for the main establishment? It won't take long for your to change your stance in the nearing future of election.

As for respect for the main establishment, i have huge respect for Pakistan establishment because in the last five years, i backed the military operation against Indian-funded Afghan-based Terrorist-outfit aka TTP while Imran Khan was pro-TTP that killed more than 50,000 people including the children and the women. Not only that, Imranistan even backed Imran Khan stances and justified for Imran Khan stances in the name of peace when it was made apparently clear that TTP was deliberately violating the peace treaty with the bloods of the innocent people including the children and the women. Whereas some Imranistan even used racial bias to undermine Pakistan establishment for launching the military operation under the authority of General Raheel against TTP.

Its best if you focus more on issues you understand or atleast respect institutions of foreign countries

Perhaps it is best if you brush up your knowledge over the real history of Pakistan, not PTI's version that is conservative, ignorant, racist and intolerance which goes against everything Jinnah (R.A)'s vision stands for.

 

[Shane]

Yet elected by Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers which you choose to ignore the point on purpose.




But i don't mind entertaining to the figure with the worth of absolute zero.




No offense but you are the one who made it priority about Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, i didn't.

I am the one who just gave you the lecture of mixture of state/races, multiculturalism, principle of liberal values and freedom of speech and expression which apparently flew over you head since you were persistence with your conservative on Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers.

Ironically, most of Imranistan are majority Pakhtoons that do not fit in the category of Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, not to mention Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers are more inclined towards MQM than PTI, and even today election in Karachi showed that PTI was the last by votes - even beaten by PMLN.

Then you implied by not saying anything when i asked whether people who voted for Nawaz Sharif and the political leaders other than Imran Khan does qualify as Real Pakistanis or not. So you basically summed it up with your ignorant mindset over majority of Real Pakistanis that contradicts with your narrative.

On the top of it, your persistence on discouraging other members from debating on the topic related to Pakistan politics simply because they are out of Pakistan or overseas Pakistanis for that matter which is not same as Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers according to you.

Yet you appear to be contradictory given the fact that not long ago Imran Khan did argue to mandate the rights of overseas Pakistan to vote for Pakistan election through the online system.

Your effort to discourage overseas Pakistan from being active on Pakistan political affairs despite the fact that majority of overseas Pakistanis [cannot read Urdu] are pro-Imran Khan while majority Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers [your versions] are the one who voted for Nawaz Sharif for the third time.




Considering your racial mindset towards Pakistani Punjabis that voted for Nawaz Sharif should be the last to talk about the ethnic when you cannot wait to define the status of Real Pakistanis over the affiliation with the political ideology, political leaders, and language barrier.

Not only ago, you were caught perpetuating all over the forms that Nawaz Sharif is the product of the main establishment. Now you have respect for the main establishment? It won't take long for your to change your stance in the nearing future of election.

As for respect for the main establishment, i have huge respect for Pakistan establishment because in the last five years, i backed the military operation against Indian-funded Afghan-based Terrorist-outfit aka TTP while Imran Khan was pro-TTP that killed more than 50,000 people including the children and the women. Not only that, Imranistan even backed Imran Khan stances and justified for Imran Khan stances in the name of peace when it was made apparently clear that TTP was deliberately violating the peace treaty with the bloods of the innocent people including the children and the women. Whereas some Imranistan even used racial bias to undermine Pakistan establishment for launching the military operation under the authority of General Raheel against TTP.



Perhaps it is best if you brush up your knowledge over the real history of Pakistan, not PTI's version that is conservative, ignorant, racist and intolerance which goes against everything Jinnah (R.A)'s vision stands for.

I am a pure Urdu speaker by your definition. I am no die hard fan of any politician.

There are people like me who always vote for the possible winning candidate of a party who are also the least of the evil among the participants.

This method of voting is far above cast or creed bradri system.

In the late eighties and nineties it was Nawaz who was considered to be tbe lesser of the corrupt evils, but then he was found out to be just as big of a corrupt evil as PPP.

It is due to his promises he made sitting in the holy land of being a changed man who learned his lesson from mistakes of his past that he was given another chance by the people after Musharraf/ PPP.

During his tenure as CM Punjab, the younger brother not only called TTP as brothers but also asked them not to attack in Punjab. The people of Punjab may have felt a bit secure but the rest of Pakistan, specially the now KPK and Sindh, loathed PMLN for this self centred racial and outrageously appalling stance in isolation with the rest of the country.

After 2013, People like me thought that Nawaz would have learned his lesson and do his best for the country that gave him his wealth, health and pompous living style way beyond his declared means but alas he has proven that when it comes to saving his ill gotten family wealth or that of the country (swiss accounts), his priorities are just as self centred as his younger brothers were about Punjab and asking TTP not to attack it.

What we now have is a choice between the extremely corrupt evil of Zardari and Co and Nawaz and Co (who have this system in grips for 35 years in one way or the other.) Or Imran Khan and Co who have struggled against both Nawaz and Zardari since 1996 and never got the chance to rule the Federal Govt to prove their claims that they can do better.

To me its very obvious that PTI with the likes of Asad Omar at IK's side is far less of an evil than the other proven extreme evils of PMLN and PPP and this time around PTI should be elected and tested.

My logic is regarding those who think and vote logically rather than those who have personal allegiances that blind them from the fact that only loyalty to the country should be held with absolute bias no matter what.

Its time for a change.

Those paranoid about NS stepping down:
MushahidUllah about YRG

 

[Zibago]

Yet elected by Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers which you choose to ignore the point on purpose.




But i don't mind entertaining to the figure with the worth of absolute zero.




No offense but you are the one who made it priority about Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, i didn't.

I am the one who just gave you the lecture of mixture of state/races, multiculturalism, principle of liberal values and freedom of speech and expression which apparently flew over you head since you were persistence with your conservative on Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers.

Ironically, most of Imranistan are majority Pakhtoons that do not fit in the category of Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers, not to mention Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers are more inclined towards MQM than PTI, and even today election in Karachi showed that PTI was the last by votes - even beaten by PMLN.

Then you implied by not saying anything when i asked whether people who voted for Nawaz Sharif and the political leaders other than Imran Khan does qualify as Real Pakistanis or not. So you basically summed it up with your ignorant mindset over majority of Real Pakistanis that contradicts with your narrative.

On the top of it, your persistence on discouraging other members from debating on the topic related to Pakistan politics simply because they are out of Pakistan or overseas Pakistanis for that matter which is not same as Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers according to you.

Yet you appear to be contradictory given the fact that not long ago Imran Khan did argue to mandate the rights of overseas Pakistan to vote for Pakistan election through the online system.

Your effort to discourage overseas Pakistan from being active on Pakistan political affairs despite the fact that majority of overseas Pakistanis [cannot read Urdu] are pro-Imran Khan while majority Real Pakistanis Pure Urdu Speakers [your versions] are the one who voted for Nawaz Sharif for the third time.




Considering your racial mindset towards Pakistani Punjabis that voted for Nawaz Sharif should be the last to talk about the ethnic when you cannot wait to define the status of Real Pakistanis over the affiliation with the political ideology, political leaders, and language barrier.

Not only ago, you were caught perpetuating all over the forms that Nawaz Sharif is the product of the main establishment. Now you have respect for the main establishment? It won't take long for your to change your stance in the nearing future of election.

As for respect for the main establishment, i have huge respect for Pakistan establishment because in the last five years, i backed the military operation against Indian-funded Afghan-based Terrorist-outfit aka TTP while Imran Khan was pro-TTP that killed more than 50,000 people including the children and the women. Not only that, Imranistan even backed Imran Khan stances and justified for Imran Khan stances in the name of peace when it was made apparently clear that TTP was deliberately violating the peace treaty with the bloods of the innocent people including the children and the women. Whereas some Imranistan even used racial bias to undermine Pakistan establishment for launching the military operation under the authority of General Raheel against TTP.



Perhaps it is best if you brush up your knowledge over the real history of Pakistan, not PTI's version that is conservative, ignorant, racist and intolerance which goes against everything Jinnah (R.A)'s vision stands for.

Being able to speak and read urdu doesnot mean you are an urdu speaker

He got elected in Pakistan not some western democracy we all the system here buddy that is a very weak argument
What has language got anything to do with liberalism and conservatism?
Do you have comprehension problems?
@PakSword
Itni bongiyan to daniyal zalil nahi marta


You have no idea of our history,you cant read our script,you dont live here yet you pollute this forum by your debunked nonsense daily you have no idea how much this country suffers from corruption yet you mock those who fight it

Considering your racial mindset towards Pakistani Punjabis that voted for Nawaz Sharif should be the last to talk about the ethnic when you cannot wait to define the status of Real Pakistanis over the affiliation with the political ideology, political leaders, and language barrier.

Wtf so now criticizing baboons is racism?
@The Sandman @PakSword @Moonlight @Hell hound @RealNapster @Sher Shah Awan
I am from Sialkot myself you moron

Yes being able to read a script Pakistanis write in important if you cant do that you are illiterate by Pakistani standards and to top it all off you dont even know the history all you do is regurgitate bs daily

Not only ago, you were caught perpetuating all over the forms that Nawaz Sharif is the product of the main establishment. Now you have respect for the main establishment? It won't take long for your to change your stance in the nearing future of election.

You have comprehension problems i dislike the political interference of the army in the past particularly Zia era but that doesnot mean i accuse it something that it is not doing right now just because the don i support is in trouble this is what they are doing it is not only immoral but dangerous

Post Kiyani there has been no interference in politics who is pmln serving by maligning their own army when dogs of war are knocking at our doors?

Imran Khan was pro-TTP

https://tribune.com.pk/story/210827/lejs-malik-received-monthly-stipend-from-punjab-govt/
https://www.pakistanstack.com/nawaz-sharif-took-money-from-osama-bin-laden/amp/
http://fp.brecorder.com/2016/11/2016110599983/

Whereas some Imranistan even used racial bias to undermine Pakistan establishment for launching the military operation under the authority of General Raheel against TTP.

No it was your ally Achakzai who did that he even called kpk afghani land

Perhaps it is best if you brush up your knowledge over the real history of Pakistan,

I kind of have a good idea about it from Zia to IJI to Nro to Panama
Some of my relatives were in jail during Zia era when Nawaz was a tool for a mad mullah dictator

not PTI's version that is conservative, ignorant, racist and intolerance

That actually describes pmln from calling pti a party spreading liberal agenda(pm,s son in law said that),their leaders calling pathans and kashmiris as trash pickers(Neefa podri @PakSword ),calling panama a global conspiracy against Muslim nations(pm,s son in law) ,calling women who attend rallies of political rivals as immoral(Abdul Manan the illiterate bhand from Faisalabad),banning frikin cartoons over perceived vulgarity (the reason for the ban being political in nature),drafting forced hijab laws that were later revoked due to civil society pressure

You should first learn more about facts before posting your debunked bs again

 

[PakSword]

Being able to speak and read urdu doesnot mean you are an urdu speaker

He got elected in Pakistan not some western democracy we all the system here buddy that is a very weak argument
What has language got anything to do with liberalism and conservatism?
Do you have comprehension problems?
@PakSword
Itni bongiyan to daniyal zalil nahi marta


You have no idea of our history,you cant read our script,you dont live here yet you pollute this forum by your debunked nonsense daily you have no idea how much this country suffers from corruption yet you mock those who fight it


Wtf so now criticizing baboons is racism?
@The Sandman @PakSword @Moonlight @Hell hound @RealNapster @Sher Shah Awan
I am from Sialkot myself you moron

Yes being able to read a script Pakistanis write in important if you cant do that you are illiterate by Pakistani standards and to top it all off you dont even know the history all you do is regurgitate bs daily


You have comprehension problems i dislike the political interference of the army in the past particularly Zia era but that doesnot mean i accuse it something that it is not doing right now just because the don i support is in trouble this is what they are doing it is not only immoral but dangerous

Post Kiyani there has been no interference in politics who is pmln serving by maligning their own army when dogs of war are knocking at our doors?


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https://tribune.com.pk/story/210827/lejs-malik-received-monthly-stipend-from-punjab-govt/
https://www.pakistanstack.com/nawaz-sharif-took-money-from-osama-bin-laden/amp/
http://fp.brecorder.com/2016/11/2016110599983/

No it was your ally Achakzai who did that he even called kpk afghani land

I kind of have a good idea about it from Zia to IJI to Nro to Panama
Some of my relatives were in jail during Zia era when Nawaz was a tool for a mad mullah dictator

That actually describes pmln from calling pti a party spreading liberal agenda(pm,s son in law said that),their leaders calling pathans and kashmiris as trash pickers(Neefa podri @PakSword ),calling panama a global conspiracy against Muslim nations(pm,s son in law) ,calling women who attend rallies of political rivals as immoral(Abdul Manan the illiterate bhand from Faisalabad),banning frikin cartoons over perceived vulgarity (the reason for the ban being political in nature),drafting forced hijab laws that were later revoked due to civil society pressure

You should first learn more about facts before posting your debunked bs again

I have a question for this nooni toon, will he accept the decision of the SC or not?

@Fallen King

 

[The Sandman]

Wtf so now criticizing baboons is racism?
@The Sandman @PakSword @Moonlight @Hell hound @RealNapster @Sher Shah Awan
I am from Sialkot myself you moron

I'm from Lahore and i hate these 2 corrupt brothers some will do everything to defend them even take out the provincial card ughhh

 

[RealNapster]

Wtf so now criticizing baboons is racism?
@The Sandman @PakSword @Moonlight @Hell hound @RealNapster @Sher Shah Awan
I am from Sialkot myself you moron

No No NO No, You are that one "Qoam-Parast " Pathan who think Imran Khan is Pathan that's why support him. otherwise you have no other reason to criticize our Ameer-Ul-Momineen who is also known as AL-sadiq and AL-amin.

@The Sandman You too, are in the list.

I'm from Lahore and i hate these 2 corrupt brothers some will do everything to defend them even take out the provincial card ughhh

 

[Azaadi]

As today on Sama TV a survey report was showing that 70% people have advised the PM for his resignation and 22% for not tender the resignation.... So i think PM should go with 70% people.... Now it is up to him and he would know better for his political career...