Will Les Koreans unite??

[UKBengali]

Agree, but hope never achieved anything, that's more like for people who have already given up on life altogether. lol So if they don't take things into heir own hands, then the KIM dynasty will rule over them forever, except the U.S/West removes them by force, something I don't think the U.S/West should do, since it's not really their call and might lead to more criticism and blow back of them. The current status quo doesn't affect the U.S, so KIM can stay(with or without China's support) for all they care. So the N.Korean people are on their own I'm afraid.

The N Korean people must be truly brainwashed and cut-off from developments in the South and the rest of the world for there not to have been a mass revolt by now.
You never know, fat Kim could meet with an accident one day and he has no suitable heir currently and not for 2 decades at least.

 

[Trango Towers]

Over America's dead body

As long as south Korea doesn't ditch America there will be no peace

 

[mike2000 is back]

The N Korean people must be truly brainwashed and cutt-off from developments in the South and the rest of the world for there not to have been a mass revolt by now.
You never know, fat Kim could meet with an accident one day and he has no suitable heir currently and not for 2 decades at least.

True. However, you have to understand that N.Koreans are living under a very brutal sadistic regime(even more brutal than the Tyrant Assad's dynasty), so if they ever dared raise their heads up to defy the Kim's dynasty , Kim and his military are ready to butcher every last one of this 'traitors/western agents'.

Just look at how Assad and his military were ready to butcher his own people to remain in power, now imagine N.Korea's situation with Kim being an even crazier/mad dog than Assad multiply by 5. Now imagine the scenario and consequences for the average N.Korean who dared revolt/rose up. Him and his whole family will be killed and made an example of. lol So in this case , we being humans will bow down and chose to Live(even as a poor dog/slave) over death(with your entire family). LOL
You living abroad in a free wealthy country, it's easy for you to blame the N.Korean people and call them brainwashed(which I don't really deny. lol) for not rising up against their tyrant. However, if you were living in N. Korea, i'm sure you wont be saying the same thing(you can't in the first place) and your opinion will change.

 

[xyxmt]

As long as south Korea doesn't ditch America there will be no peace

This is the guest who comes in but never leaves

 

[Homo Sapiens]

LOL If you all think a dictator and more than absolute monarchy regime like that of the Kim's family will agree to relinquish their absolute power and rule over Korea, then you might as well believe a less brutal and less power obsessed leader like Assad will agree to leave power, and Kim is far more fanatical and power obsessed than Assad can ever be. So there goes the probability of a Korean Unification. lol

There is no prospect of reunification of Korea unless fat Kim regime is overthrown and replaced by a democratic govt.Still South Korea may hesitate and may ask for a 10-20 year transition period for North Korean economy to catch-up to a reasonable level suitable to be merge with South Korean economy before formal reunification and obliteration of border.Other prospect is prompt reunification along with internal border, passport and separate fiscal policy for a period of time.

 

[Trango Towers]

This is the guest who comes in but never leaves

spot on and we in pakistan also have to rid ourselves of this cancer

 

[UKBengali]

There is no prospect of reunification of Korea unless fat Kim regime is overthrown and replaced by a democratic govt.Still South Korea may hesitate and may ask for a 10-20 year transition period for North Korean economy to catch-up to a reasonable level suitable to be merge with South Korean economy before formal reunification and obliteration of border.Other prospect is prompt reunification along with internal border, passport and separate fiscal policy for a period of time.

I think if ever N Korea frees itself from the Kim dynasty tyranny, then it will reunite quickly with the South but there will have to be a 20-25 year transitional period where the two peoples cannot move to the other side without a special permit.
Such a shame for Korea at large to be burdened with the Kim family as together they would be even greater than the sum of the two parts.

 

[Brainsucker]

A kingdom can't have 2 kings...one shall die...

But Rome had 2 consuls.

 

[vostok]

China and Russia will support the existence of an independent North Korea until the United States withdraws from South Korea. This is elementary.
As soon as the foreign military leaves Korea, then there will be a chance of unification.

 

[HannibalBarca]

China and Russia will support the existence of an independent North Korea until the United States withdraws from South Korea. This is elementary.
As soon as the foreign military leaves Korea, then there will be a chance of unification.

Nope... Kim Dynasty... will not accept to step down...
You know it...we know it...

There is 3 solutions to NK-SK problem...
-Accepting NK existence and their actions by "forgetting" everything they've done and lift every restriction...
-Invade it
-Hope for a change of power by X reasons ( Revolution or Coup) in X time...

Right now the third option is the one being used... with the second one...hiding behind the bush...
As for the First...we can all forget about it...

 

[vostok]

Nope... Kim Dynasty... will not accept to step down...
You know it...we know it...

There is 3 solutions to NK-SK problem...
-Accepting NK existence and their actions by "forgetting" everything they've done and lift every restriction...
-Invade it
-Hope for a change of power by X reasons ( Revolution or Coup) in X time...

Right now the third option is the one being used... with the second one...hiding behind the bush...
As for the First...we can all forget about it...

You think about personalities, not geopolitics. It does not matter what is the name of the ruler of North Korea. It is important that the US bases will not appear on the borders of China and Russia in strategically important region. As soon as the US withdraws its troops, then negotiations can begin. Kim can receive the honorable title of "lifelong elder of the united Korea" or whatever and full guarantees of immunity.

 

[HannibalBarca]

You think about personalities, not geopolitics. It does not matter what is the name of the ruler of North Korea. It is important that the US bases will not appear on the borders of China and Russia in strategically important region. As soon as the US withdraws its troops, then negotiations can begin. Kim can receive the honorable title of "lifelong elder of the united Korea" or whatever and full guarantees of immunity.

Geopolitics take into account the personality of the ruling "Head&Body"...
Kim Dynasty... is not Kim-Jung-Un... it wasn't, is and will never be him...the Kim Dynasty is an Ideological system...who is incarnated by a Man... A Man who has no meaning...only for the Material side of that Ideology.

Meaning... the problem is not One man... it's ALL those who hold a position of Power and those who accept that power to be upon them... You can see it as a simplified view of a sect...

In a Sect... the most radical ones are not always those "preaching THE Truth" but those listening... Those who build their life upon that "Truth". Therefore... the one trapped is not always the one we think it is... Kim is as trapped in this truth as his followers..

One move of each side (those Up and those Down) could be taken as treason by each side to the other...

 

[Basel]

With the two Koreans entering olympics together. And Kim Jong Un inviting South Koreans for negotiating a unification. There might a chance of unification strangely predicted by a shooter game called Homefront with both in game and real world events unfolding almost at the same time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...rt/olympic-north-korea-moment-trnd/index.html

It will be good for Koreans, region and even for world but west will not allow it.

 

[Cookie Monster]

At the time of my post the votes are split evenly between yes and no, 9 each.

The ppl voting on this seem to be just as divided as the Koreans

On a serious note...there's quite a few hurdles that make unification an impossibility in the foreseeable future. One of these hurdles is Kim Jong Un...the man has everything...money, power, women, a kingdom of his very own, and basically all he desires. Why would he want to change the status quo? Unification will disturb what he has going for himself and possibly take it all away. I've never known a man who would willingly give up all those riches/power for the greater good.

Secondly if by some miracle Kim Jong Un can be convinced to agree to unification then there comes the hurdle of the new Cold War. US likes South Korea in its camp and wants to keep it that way. China/Russia(China specially) wouldn't want to have a staunch US ally that close to it sitting unchecked...so naturally China would like North Korea to remain there as a counter balance to South Korea. Any attempts at unification will be thwarted under the pressure of both US and China on their respective sides.

I would personally like the two to be united bcuz in my opinion that's what's best for the ppl(specially the North Korean ppl). There would be some problems in the beginning for the United Korea bcuz it will find itself with a major part of a population that's poor...but in the long run it will be better for them economically to have more ppl, more land, more resources.

 

[vostok]

Geopolitics take into account the personality of the ruling "Head&Body"...
Kim Dynasty... is not Kim-Jung-Un... it wasn't, is and will never be him...the Kim Dynasty is an Ideological system...who is incarnated by a Man... A Man who has no meaning...only for the Material side of that Ideology.

Meaning... the problem is not One man... it's ALL those who hold a position of Power and those who accept that power to be upon them... You can see it as a simplified view of a sect...

In a Sect... the most radical ones are not always those "preaching THE Truth" but those listening... Those who build their life upon that "Truth". Therefore... the one trapped is not always the one we think it is... Kim is as trapped in this truth as his followers..

One move of each side (those Up and those Down) could be taken as treason by each side to the other...

North Korea is not in a vacuum. This is a state that provides Russia and China a reliable buffer with American troops. It is not a problem to change the ruler - distant relative or some general. The problem is that South Korea is hosting foreign troops hostile to the neighbors of the Korean peninsula. While the forces of the hostile power are in the territory of Korea, the process of unification can not begin.
The problem is not in Kim, but in the American military.