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Will Iran, Turkey and Iraq enter a war against Barzani?

Will Iran, Turkey and Iraq enter a war against Barzani?

  • Yes, if Barzani continues his ambitions and makes friendship with Israel

    Votes: 17 50.0%
  • No, Turkey has other goals

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • Yes but only Iran will help Iraqi government

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 7 20.6%

  • Total voters
    34

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The Kurdish region referendum costs are not limited to domestic and regional actors, but also include security developments inside Iraq. In just five days, numerous Iraqi cities were subjected to a terrorist attack.
A referendum on the independence of the Iraqi Kurdistan region, which is scheduled to take place on Monday, is still in doubt. While the world has announced its positions in support of the central government of Iraq to Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi, Erbil continues to seek concessions from Baghdad. Meanwhile, many analysts of the Iraqi internal affairs have expressed concern that the process will turn into internal tensions and bloody conflicts between the two sides.
During the last months, Massoud Barzani has made great efforts in negotiating with various official and informal parties in order to achieve the bests and to present himself as the Kurdish historian and establish the first Kurdish state in the region. This approach is supported by the Zionist regime under various topics and motives. Of course, the most important of these motivations is the breakdown of Iraq as one of the main forces of resistance in the Middle East.
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Barzani, with the support of the United States, the Zionist regime and some Arab P-Gulf states, is trying to exploit this opportunity in his own interest, exploiting the internal situation in Iraq and the process of fighting ISIL terrorists and the weakness of the central government in this country. The story of Iraq's disintegration, although backed by some international parties, is the red line of the most important regional powers, namely, Iran and Turkey.

Over the past weeks, important meetings have been held by the Iranian delegation in Erbil and Sulaimaniyah to prevent the Kurds from falling into this trap and the crisis, while maintaining the reputation of the Kurds for building convergence and aligning their views with the central government of Baghdad. Sardar Qassem Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force, also met with a number of senior Kurdish officials.

Apparently, Americans have also expressed their opposition to the referendum on Iraqi Kurdistan. The British Coordinator, Brittany McGuire, has presented a roadmap for a decent departure from the crisis, but the head of the Kurdistan Region believes that accepting international projects is conditional on agreeing on unrealistic conditions, which is primarily in line with Barzanian familial ideals.

According to the Lebanese newspaper Al-Akhbar, Barzani considers the two-year postponement of the referendum conditional on United Nations monitoring to serious talks between Baghdad and Erbil, and the two-year extension of the Barzani presidency and the acquisition of oil wealth in the Kurdistan region during these two years and calls on Americans To protect them against any attack.

Barzani, in line with his ambition, had already tried to reach a deal with Heydar al-Abadi Which also failed in this regard. AlAkhbar writes He tried to secure his election as President of the country for two successive years, with the departure of the Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Directorate, and the Kurdish Region's chairman will also address his son, Masroud Massoud Barzani, the adviser to the Regional Security Council of the Kurdistan.

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A lot has been said about Barzani's efforts to break up Iraqi Kurdistan, based on Kurdish idealisations to form an independent state or an attempt to impose himself and his family on the Iraqi arena, but what is important in this regard. That these adventures can cost a lot on Kurdish hands. That is why some of the Kurdish movements have opposed Barzani's policies.

The main source of the referendum, which the central government of Iraq has repeatedly denied directly, is a violation of the Iraqi constitution and a step toward disintegration and instability in the country. Even the Iraqi parliament dismantled and set up a new person in a quick move to the governor of Kirkuk, who wanted to participate in the independence referendum. Following these actions, some of the official heads of Baghdad, including al-Abbadi, have suggested a possible military action to maintain the calm and stability of the country.

Sunni groups that have good relations with the Iraqi government have opposed the referendum. Other Sunni groups that diverge from the Iraqi government are also less likely to oppose the referendum. Shiite groups and movements that naturally opposed the referendum and somehow threatened Barzani with the addition of Kirkuk to the Kurdish territory.

The National Coalition also announced that the results of the referendum on the independence of the Kurdish region scheduled for September 25th will not be adopted due to its conflict with the constitution. The coalition's statement states that: The National Coalition delegation led by the National Coalition The head of Ammar Hakim hosted the National Coalition, a major issue in Iraq, namely the referendum on the independence of the Kurdish region. During the meeting, it was emphasized that the results of the referendum were not recognized by the constitution because they were unconstitutional and not documented by law. The meeting emphasized the importance of relying on a constitution for dialogue.

Hadi al-Ameri, senior commander of al-Hadid al-Sha'abi, also warned Massoud Barzani about the possibility of a civil war in the country due to a referendum on the separation of the Kurdistan region. "We are opposed to any kind of dismemberment of Iraq and also against the creation of regional and tribal regions in the country," al-Amari said. If there is a genuine intention, an agreement between Baghdad and Erbil is possible.

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Also, Iraqi Vice President Nouri Maliki criticized Barzani's move and said: "We will not allow the formation of the second Israeli. Another Iraqi source also emphasized that the common interest between Erbil and Tel Aviv is very high at all levels of political and economic, military and security. If the Kurdish government is formed, like the Zionist regime, it will become a cancerous tumor.

The Kurdish referendum also has opposition, even among the parties involved in this region. Turkmen groups, including Sunnis and Shiites, and Christians in these areas are opposed to the referendum. The Kurd Guran movement (change), the Islamic alliance and the Islamic community also want postponement of the referendum. The opposition to these three is mainly due to their attitude toward the Democratic Party and the personality of Massoud Barzani, and in no way should this opposition be viewed as opposed to the principle of independence. The three Kurdish actors want a postponement of the referendum.

At the regional level, the reactions to the referendum should be examined with respect to Iraq's neighbors. The Kurdistan region is geographically located in an area where its neighbors, Iran, Turkey and Syria have a common border with the Kurdish region, with Kurdish population in the common border area, which any change in Iraqi Kurdistan can affect these areas. Therefore, it will not be difficult for neighboring countries to oppose the change of geography and conduct a referendum for security reasons and stability in their border regions. The three countries of Iran, Turkey and Syria have opposed the referendum. The Arab League has condemned it.

The other side is the West, and especially the United States, all of whom have adopted an opposing position. The United States, which has always been a supporter of Kurdistan's independence, does not consider the current situation a good time for independence in the region, and has asked the parties to resolve their problems in the form of a dialogue, and even by presenting an alternative plan of referendum.

At the transnational level, the European Union and its prominent countries are opposed to the referendum and want to postpone it.

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On the other hand, the clear position of Iranian officials in the referendum is a clear sign for Barzani. Ali Shamkhani, secretary of the Supreme National Security Council, said: Iran definitely merely recognizes the unified, federal government of Iraq.

Referring to the unchanging position of the Islamic Republic of Iran regarding the necessity of maintaining territorial integrity and territorial unity in Iraq, he added: Any damage to this strategic principle will lead to a serious rethinking of the existing cooperation between Iran and the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

Shamkhani stated the legitimacy of the passages and border crossings of the Islamic Republic of Iran with the regions of the Kurdistan region of Iraq solely is because of the region considered as part of a unified Iraq, and stated that the border agreements remained solely centered on the central government of Iraq and the separation of the Kurdistan region from the central government of Iraq will lead to blocking all cross-border passages and boundaries.

In another part of his remarks, referring to the existence of military and security agreements between Iran and the Kurdistan region of Iraq, he noted: the separation of the Kurdistan region from Iraq will mean the end of all these agreements, and then Iran in the framework of security of borders Jointly rethinking its approach to counteracting the presence and activity of the Iranian counterrevolution in parts of the Iraqi Kurdistan, it will reciprocate in a completely different way from the past.

Shemkhani stressed the need for continued dialogue to resolve existing issues and revise the decision-making process, adding that there is still enough time for Iraqi Kurdish officials to respond to benevolent invitations aimed at securing the interests of the Kurdish community and the Iraqi state and preventing the formation of trends. There are security guards in the area.

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Erdogan, on the other hand, implicitly threatened Barzani: "Let's be clear, we have always defended Iraq's territorial integrity." We expressed our support for Iraqi territorial integrity when nobody did this. This referendum should not be held. They live together in Iraq as Arabs, Turks and Kurds.

"How can we accept such a referendum as Turkey when we have a 350-kilometer border with Iraq?" He added. Iran and the federal government are also opposed to this referendum. So how can we make such a decision solely to identify yourself and as a region in northern Iraq. We do not accept this decision. We will never allow the fragmentation of Iraq, and the referendum is a mistake.

Thank you president of Turkey!!!

@HAKIKAT @tesla @TheCamelGuy

This is the ground reality , hakikat. Not what you mention as annexation of Iraqi lands
 
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While it will have a direct impact on the countries with considerable Kurd population, it will also set a dangerous precedent for a wider region as well.

Both Pakistan and Iran has a Baluch population of which a segment aspire for independence. Northern Iraq becoming an independent Kurdish state will not only breath a new life to such aspirations, but will also set an example to be used as a template by global powers with nefarious goals for the region.
 
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While it will have a direct impact on the countries with considerable Kurd population, it will also set a dangerous precedent for a wider region as well.

Both Pakistan and Iran has a Baluch population of which a segment aspire for independence. Northern Iraq becoming an independent Kurdish state will not only breath a new life to such aspirations, but will also set an example to be used as a template by global powers with nefarious goals for the region.
True, and Israel has a considerable role among separatists in that region. However Baloch brothers , with majority of 90%, did not support separatists but as we all know, that minority is a threat due to western role in dismembering Muslim countries and weakening them and also their effort to arm those groups against central governments. Pakistan and Iran should closely work economically, militarily and politically to prevent such Israeli scenario in that area.
 
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However Baloch brothers , with majority of 90%, did not support separatists but as we all know, that minority is a threat due to western role in dismembering Muslim countries and weakening them and also their effort to arm those groups against central governments
Lol so some of the Balochs or whatever their name is are also fighting for independence due to the West?
 
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Lol so some of the Balochs or whatever their name is are also fighting for independence due to the West?
You want me to believe that west had no role in dismembering Muslim countries?

Many of these boundaries are the result of French-English involvement in middle east.

MI6-Mossad and new of colonialist's club CIA role in middle eastern conflicts are proved by our agencies. You can deny that bud, but honesty is most welcomed by me.

Have you heard Ozdemir detachment? ;)
That was a headache LOL
 
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Lol so some of the Balochs or whatever their name is are also fighting for independence due to the West?
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And I am not gonna talk about the number of interview made by BBC Persian and VOA by this guy and calling him "opposition" "The leader of popular resistance of Iran" and described it as a dispute btw Shia and Sunni ...

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This thread is soooo like The Dictator movie.

Like options are same as

You want the alladeen news
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You want the alladeen news

Ironically its an Iranian who opened the thread.


How cliche


Totally not stereotyping but funnnnny like an obese America lecturing on bio waste.

And since i am somehow morally linked to involve Israel as well apparently.

Israel suxxx
 
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You want me to believe that west had no role in dismembering Muslim countries?

Many of these boundaries are the result of French-English involvement in middle east.
Well, it's true that our past government and that of France created many countries in the middle East that exist today. However, that was back when we were an imperial colonial power/empire. The world back then (just like throughout history) was all about conquest( just like the Persian and ottoman empires). The division of the middle East was as a result of the winners of WWI i.e(Britain, France, Russia) over mainly Germany and to some extent Turkey (Ottoman empire) carving up their new conquests. The losers would have done the same if they had won. It has nothing to do with 'dividing Muslims' or whatever that even means.
Moreover, I'm sure citizens of those countries who were created as a result of this (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Arab states etc etc) are happy they were finally separated and given independence. The main losers were the Kurds, since France and Britain didn't take into consideration ethnic complexity of the native population before carving out these countries. I admit it was a mistake on our part. We should have given them their state back then, if we did that there wouldn't be such Kurdish separatists issues/conflict we have today I'm the region . So i agree that to some extent it is our fault as well.

MI6-Mossad and new of colonialist's club CIA role in middle eastern conflicts are proved by our agencies. You can deny that bud, but honesty is most welcomed by me.
Stop blaming others for your faults. Look at your own faults. So you people have no hand in conflicts in the region huh??
 
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The main losers were the Kurds, since France and Britain didn't take into consideration ethnic complexity of the native population before carving out these countries. I admit it was a mistake on our part. We should have given them their state back then, if we did that there wouldn't be such Kurdish separatists issues/conflict we have today I'm the region . So i agree that to some extent it is our fault as well.
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Stop blaming others for your faults. Look at your own faults. So you people have no hand in conflicts in the region huh??
No we are not an ally, arms supplier of Saudi-Israeli cancer in the middle east. You, your kingdom specifically, are not only the ally of wahabis but you have created wahabism in Arabian peninsula to topple Ottoman empire. 33rd grade agent of masons Mr.Hempher has admitted it.
A new era of colonialism is being passed but i promise you whole western made plans will be dismantled. Mark my words, :rolleyes:
 
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While it will have a direct impact on the countries with considerable Kurd population, it will also set a dangerous precedent for a wider region as well.

Both Pakistan and Iran has a Baluch population of which a segment aspire for independence. Northern Iraq becoming an independent Kurdish state will not only breath a new life to such aspirations, but will also set an example to be used as a template by global powers with nefarious goals for the region.

how can you compare it with Baluch problem bro, overwhelming majority of Baloch despite having grievances with central govt want to remain part of Pakistan and Iran. While majority Kurds despite having some kind of autonomy want to create their new homeland..

if Kurd succeed, it will not encourage loyal Baluch but west to support separatist in whole region. Pakistan should support all friendly countries against this movement.
 
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Why go to war ,those 3 country only need to put a siege on Iraqi Kurdistan and Kurds themselves hand over barezanni on a plate

Block the sale of Kurdish oil through turkey, failed state overnight, already riddled with debt, population starves, forced to surrender. Their is no chance for kurdistan if Turkey and Iran don't approve and actually take out the iron fist. And they have no capacity to wage war against either of them. Erbil would be bombed of all its important infrastructure with ease.
 
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