Will F-35 be a fifth gen without these 2 technologies?

[BHarwana]

There are 2 very crucial technologies in F-35 panoramic cockpit display and its missile remote interface unit.

Panoramic cockpit display provides F-35 pilot with situational awareness and it helps the pilot track multiple targets in passive radar mode means when the jet is stealth and using radar feed from other sources in the area.

Missile remote interface unit

Now we all know F-35 keeps it's missile payload in internal bay and the capacity of that internal bay is not much hardly 2 missiles in each bay. If the missile pay load is carried on wings then the jet is no more stealth. With missile remote interface F-35 utilizes the missiles carried by other jets under its command and sends them on targets. Without missile remote interface F-35 loses its force multiplier concept and becomes a limited mission jet means going back to the age 4.5 gen.

My point bringing this up was that as USA has sanctioned Turkey and is delaying the jets Turkey can delay the whole project with years of halt to it as both of the above mentioned technologies are not US tech but Turkish tech and Turkish company Ayesas is the sole provider of this technology and it will take USA years to research the tech and integrate it with F-35. Although Turkey produces many components of F-35 but the 2 mentioned tech are totally Turkish based and no other country has them.

The news is already out and the words is spreading and I think Turkey plans to retaliate with this as this will damage F-35 most and Russia and China are offering Turkey a lot for these technologies and US might lose the 5th gen war with Russia and China because of these F-35 delays.

 

[BHarwana]

Alp Aviation, AYESAS, Kale Aviation, Kale Pratt & Whitney and Turkish Aerospace Industries have been producing parts for the first F-35 fighter jet. F-35 will shoot back to drawing board if Turkey is taken out the program and USA is playing small games like delaying the deliveries for 90 days. Is USA trying to destroy its own 5th gen program?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Panoramic cockpit display provides F-35 pilot with situational awareness and it helps the pilot track multiple targets in passive radar mode means when the jet is stealth and using radar feed from other sources in the area.

I don't think this display is anything special. The latest F-15 and JF-17 Block 3 all have it.

 

[BHarwana]

I don't think this display is anything special. The latest F-15 and JF-17 Block 3 all have it.

Nope they don't. It is Turkish only tech.

 

[Oublious]

I don't think this display is anything special. The latest F-15 and JF-17 Block 3 all have it.

stop writing bs...

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1029843923290738689

 

[Fawadqasim1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1029843923290738689

how are you sir long time no see

 

[BHarwana]

how are you sir long time no see

I am fine how are you sir.

 

[T-123456]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1029843923290738689

You might want to check this claim again to be sure,just saying.

 

[Killuminati]

Below are details on the 10 Turkish companies who have supported the development and/or production of F-35 / F135.

• Alp Aviation has been supporting the program since 2004 and currently manufactures F-35 production airframe structure and assemblies, production landing gear components and over 100 F135 production engine parts to include titanium integrated blade rotors.
• Aselsan is developing manufacturing approaches for advanced optical components, which are part of the F-35 Electro Optical Targeting System. They are also working with Northrup Grumman on the F-35 CNI Avionic Interface Controller and will initiate full scale production activities in the near term.
• Ayesas currently is the sole source supplier for two major F-35 components – missile remote interface unit and the panoramic cockpit display.
• Fokker Elmo manufactures 40 percent of the F-35 Electrical Wiring & Interconnection System (EWIS) and will also deliver and support TAI with all center section wiring systems. Fokker Elmo is also developing the EWIS for the F135 engine, for which a major share is produced in Fokker Elmo Turkey in Izmir.
• Havelsan has been supporting the F-35 training systems since 2005. Additionally, Havelsan has been instrumental as the Turkish lead for developing the construct of the future Turkish F-35 Integrated Pilot and Maintenance Training Center (ITC) and associated training systems in Turkey.
• Kale Aerospace has been supporting the F-35 since 2005. In conjunction with Turkish Aerospace Industries, they manufacture and produce F-35 airframe structures and assemblies. Kale Aero also supports Heroux Devtek as the sole source supplier for all three variants landing gear up lock assemblies. Additionally, Kale Aerospace has also established a joint venture in Izmir with Pratt & Whitney and is manufacturing production hardware for the F135 engine.
• MiKES has supported the F-35 Program during SDD delivering F-35 aircraft components and assemblies for BAE Systems and Northrop Grumman
• ROKETSAN and Tubitak-SAGE are the Turkish joint leadership team who strategically manage the development, integration, and production of the advanced precision-guided Stand-off Missile (SOM-J) which will be carried internally on the 5th Generation F-35 aircraft. Additionally, Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control has partnered with Roketsan, through a teaming agreement, to jointly develop, produce, market and sell the advanced, precision guided Stand Off Missile – Joint Strike Fighter (SOM-J).
• Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) has been strategically supporting the F-35 Program since 2008. The company currently supplies production hardware that goes into every F-35 production aircraft. In conjunction with Northrup Grumman, TAI manufactures and assembles the center fuselages, produces composite skins and weapon bay doors, and manufactures fiber placement composite air inlet ducts. Additionally, TAI is strategically manufacturing 45 percent of the F-35’s including Air-to-Ground Pylons and adapters which is Alternate Mission Equipment (AME).

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I hope that Turkey was smart enough not to do any stock production of parts that already are exported.

 

[Yaseen1]

there are many features which are secret and we cannot properly conclude on f35 without knowing them

 

[BHarwana]

You might want to check this claim again to be sure,just saying.

There is no need t check the claim it is a problem for USA and Mattis has already admitted it. F-35 will be delayed and their cost will go up Turkey is producing a lot of parts. It is not easy to setup production line for even half of the parts if not all.

 

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There is no need t check the claim it is a problem for USA and Mattis has already admitted it. F-35 will be delayed and their cost will go up Turkey is producing a lot of parts. It is not easy to setup production line for even half of the parts if not all.

They could move production of some of those parts to other partner countries, it will ofcourse increase costs, but hey, that'll be their problem.

 

[T-123456]

F-35 will be delayed and their cost will go up Turkey is producing a lot of parts. It is not easy to setup production line for even half of the parts if not all.

This is true but as you know,a delay is no problem.
We all know the F-35 will be delivered to my country without any problems.

 

[BHarwana]

This is true but as you know,a delay is no problem.
We all know the F-35 will be delivered to my country without any problems.

Yes Turkey will get F-35. Just checking who has how much leverage in F-35