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Will Chinese Smartphones Surpass Established Brands in Sales?

Lol, that sentence show people like you know NOTHING in mobile device technology

Did you ever know when the CDMA technology is out on 1996, Samsung achieved 51% of global market share in PCS market by 1997?

And do you Samsung were awarded Mobile News Award by global competitor and beaten Nokia, Motorola alike in 1998 and 2000?

To say nobody will consider asamsung phone over Nokia and SE is extremely stupid talk, using profanity will not make your comment more true or certain.

Ofcourse you can continue to say China will this and China will that, without any base of change and somewhat reference, everyone can say anything, it's who can back it up with facts that count. Unless you can come up with a reference to show me how Chinese phone is going to dominate the market without changing the OS, I am not interested in empty debating with ignorant cheerleader like yourselves
You know nothing. 10 years ago, Samsung was competing for low-end phones just like most of Chinese mobile company today. 10 years ago, Nokia was the market leader in cellphone until Apple role out its revolutionary smartphone. Samsung then catch up, partnering with Google-Android to outmaneuver Apples IOS to become the market leader and its flagship Galaxy Smartphone becomes the the number #1 rival of Iphone, mainly because of MARKETING. Of course, you need substance to back up your marketing. We have the substance but we don't have the marketing power of Samsung and Apple because those two are deep pocket company that can invest in billion of dollar in marketing to brainwash people into believing their phone is the fastest or most technologically advance.

You are a joke. I ask you, why is Samsung so successful, a market leader, despite using ANDROID OS? You did not answer that question, so everyone can see your double-standard when evaluating Chinese mobile. I cannot take a joker serious until you answer appropriate why Samsung can use Andoird but we are not allow to be market leader using the same Android. Do you forget that not all Android behaves the same? Each company has their "own company flavor" to the base Android OS.
 
Mark my words, Lenovo K Series will be the KING of Smartphone in the global stage in 5 years.

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Intel-powered Lenovo K900 Sold Out As Fast As iPhone 5 In China, Says Local Sellers

by Liu Xiang - Jun 28, 2013

- See more at: http://gsminsider.com/2013/06/lenovo-k900-sold-out-fast-in-china/#sthash.WvI9sgnN.dpuf
Lenovo K900. A real player in the Android market but not many people heard it before. This is because the Lenovo Smartphones are not popular in the international market if compared with its PCs and notebooks. Lenovo has been evolved into a serious player in the smartphone market since last year.

According to Chinese sources, the sales of Lenovo K900 have been impressive so far. Local sellers described the demand of Lenovo K900 is higher than the supply. This is why the Lenovo K900 has been sold out in most of the stores in China. The local sellers even compared the situation with the demand of iPhone 5.

The local sellers described that the Lenovo K900 is popular among the PC and notebook users. The design together with the Lenovo brand and the Intel processor successfully lured the PC users to purchase the Lenovo K900. NBA star Kobe Bryant is the product ambassador of Lenovo K900.

Lenovo K900 has been the first ever Intel CloverTrail+ powered smartphone, also can be qualified as phablet due to its 5.5-inch display. The display is on par with Samsung Galaxy Note 2 but the resolution is 1080p Full HD. It has a metallic finished color on the back that made it looks elegant.

http://gsminsider.com/2013/06/lenovo-k900-sold-out-fast-in-china/

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Snapdragon 800 Lenovo K910 receives network license

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Lenovo’s latest high-end Lenovo K910 has been spotted over at Tenaa receiving it’s network license.

For their next flagship phone Lenovo have dumped the Intel Atom CPU found in the K900 in favour of a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chip which will be fitted in the all new Lenovo K910.

The K910 has already made it’s appearance in a number of leaked photos and is now ready to go on sale now that it as it’s official stamp of approval from the Chinese equivalent of the FCC.


Lenovo have stuck to a 5.5-inch 1920 x 1080 display for the K910, and also packed it with 2GB RAM, 5 mega-pixel front camera, 13 mega-pixel rear, 16GB of built-in storage, micro SD card and Android 4.2.2. According to reports the 2.2Ghz quad-core chip in the Lenovo K910 is good for up to 34,072 points in Antutu!

Pricing of the K910 is expected to be on par with the current K900 so expect around 2999 Yuan for the base mode and more for a 32GB (or larger) version.

http://www.gizchina.com/2013/10/13/snapdragon-800-lenovo-k910-receives-network-license/


What do you think of Huawei P6? Its sale is curently ranked as No3 here in Holland just after Samsung and Apple. Is it better than lenovo or Xiaomi M2S?
 
One of the major reasons that Samsung won over Apple, measured by total sales, is because it takes larger share than Apple in China - the world's largest smartphone market.
 
What do you think of Huawei P6? Its sale is curently ranked as No3 here in Holland just after Samsung and Apple. Is it better than lenovo or Xiaomi M2S?
Huawei P6 has potential but the name is not eye-catching. So marketing wise, it has limit ability to expand its global smartphone brand unless it changes the name. Unlike Lenovo, it is already a global name brand in the PC market, with quality brand such as Idealpad and Thinkpad. Therefore it is easier for Lenovo to use its brand experience in PC to market its smartphone quality.

The reason for Levono and Xiaomi limit exposure to the global market is because they are not expanding globally yet. Their flagship phones are sold limiting to Asia only. Lenovo, in the next 5-10 years, will slowly roll out their brand and signing mobile contract with global carriers, and that is when they will step their game up in marketing.
 
There is another thing: marketing gimicks.

Chinese companies from China are not good at it at all.

Actually a lot of my friends have no problem buying either Samsung or Huawei because the price is not important to us. But Huawei's lower price put many of them off just because it fits right into people's general misguided preconception that it's cheaper because of lower quality.

So I am not sure Huawei's marketing is correct enough to take on Apple or Samsung only with lower price but the similar quality. If you're good, charge the proper price, the same or even slightly higher, than Apple and Samsung, people will look at you differently. Many young people here in Europe choose brand by choosing the highest price tag. Highest price = highest quality = newsest fashion = cool. The rest is not that important to us. e.g. long before anyone heard about the name of Samsung or even Nokia, one of the first phones I bought more than 12 years ago was Sony, a very tiny one with a half palm size and still working today, costed me at a time > 1,000 Euro, almost double the price of Motorola, Siemans and Ericsson, the other best in the market then. This Sony was sold red hot in Holland.
 
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Huawei P6 has potential but the name is not eye-catching. So marketing wise, it has limit ability to expand its global smartphone brand unless it changes the name. Unlike Lenovo, it is already a global name brand in the PC market, with quality brand such as Idealpad and Thinkpad. Therefore it is easier for Lenovo to use its brand experience in PC to market its smartphone quality.

The reason for Levono and Xiaomi limit exposure to the global market is because they are not expanding globally yet. Their flagship phones are sold limiting to Asia only. Lenovo, in the next 5-10 years, will slowly roll out their brand and signing mobile contract with global carriers, and that is when they will step their game up in marketing.


I can find Xiaomi now in Holland and Belgium.
 
Here is a good article on Lenovo ambition to dominate the global smartphone market.

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Lenovo’s Protect & Attack Strategy Threatens Global Domination – Apple & Samsung Better Watch Out

MIKE WHEATLEY | JANUARY 31ST

We’ve all heard talk of how the post-PC era is supposedly looming on the horizon, but perhaps it would be wiser to ignore the proclamations of those who insist that the roof is about to cave in. Despite Apple’s Tim Cook insisting that people would “rather play on his iPad than their old PCs”, Lenovo has gone from strength to strength, proving that there’s plenty of life left in the old workhorses yet, so long as you know how to market them – something that the Chinese firm positively excels at.

Lenovo’s latest fiscal quarter results have smashed all expectations, with the company shipping a record breaking 14.1 million PCs last quarter – more than it’s ever shipped in any single quarter. This performance helped to boost Lenovo’s total market share to 15.9%, a second record in what the company claims is its “best ever quarter”.

Further records were broken too, with Lenovo registering $205 million in earnings, 34% up from the year before, while its gross profits totaled some $1.1 billion, a 15% increase on last year. Meanwhile, Lenovo’s net operating profit came to $243 million, up 26% year-on-year.

Yang Yuanqing, chairman and CEO, Lenovo Group, offered up these comments:

“With the strong execution of our ‘Protect and Attack’ strategy, Lenovo has not only achieved record revenue, profit and global PC market share last quarter, but also our smartphone and tablet businesses have delivered hyper growth. Even more, our worldwide tablet and China smartphone businesses have become profitable.”

“As we continue into the PC Plus era, Lenovo has already laid a solid foundation. Our new organization will provide the structure to elevate our diversified business and drive it to the next level. We are confident that we can win through differentiation and will be the innovation leader in the PC Plus era.”

Protect and Attack

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Few will disagree that Lenovo’s growth is little short of remarkable, but this isn’t so surprising when we consider how it differently it operates. Unlike with many American firms, Lenovo has a clear and stable leadership, and it cautiously avoids racking up debts with questionable acquisitions, instead focusing on the solid execution of its carefully planned strategy.

To understand Lenovo’s success we need to understand this strategy, which is beautiful for its incredible simplicity. “Protect and Attack” are labels that refer to two different aspects of its business segments – it’s ‘protecting businesses’ and its ‘attacking businesses’.

Lenovo derives its main source of revenue from its ‘protecting businesses’, namely its PC markets, which can be sub-divided into China and the rest of the world. Meanwhile, Lenovo’s ‘attack businesses’ refer to its policy of penetrating emerging markets and its fledgling smartphone, tablet and Smart TV divisions, which are focused on those same emerging markets, and its home turf.

And boy are they attacking – this last quarter, attack businesses generated 50% of the company’s revenues, up from 32% when Lenovo first began this strategy four years ago.

Lenovo’s plan of ‘attacking’ emerging markets has flourished in three regions specifically – Europe, the Middle East and Africa (EMEA), where it saw 25.5% growth in PC shipments, emerging as the region’s second largest PC maker with an 11% share.

Lenovo’s second mode of attack – its Mobile Internet and Digital Home segment – also saw remarkable growth, with sales of smartphones, tablets and Smart TVs (what Lenovo calls its PC Plus products) growing by 77% over the past year, accounting for 11% of its total revenues.

Excuses, Excuses…

enovo’s runaway success in the global PC market has raised eyebrows across the board, but this calls into question claims by others that their growth is being harmed by the rise in popularity of tablets and smartphones. Lenovo’s PC business is positively thriving, with its 8.2% growth putting to shame an industry that declined by 7.8% over the same period. Out of the world’s top five PC makers – Acer, Asus, Dell, HP and Lenovo – only Lenovo and Asus managed to record positive growth, leaving us to speculate where Dell and HP are going wrong.

No doubt Microsoft will wondering the same thing. Interestingly, its Windows division has just posted 24% growth, scooping up $5.88 billion in revenues since the launch of Windows 8, figures that prove its new operating system isn’t so disliked after all – perhaps it’s more the case that consumers just don’t like certain brands (wake up, Dell, HP) anymore? In any case, it’ll be interesting to see if Microsoft looks to forge closer ties with what is undoubtedly the industry’s rising star.

Should Apple and Samsung be Worried?

Lenovo’s smartphone business also deserves a mention, having just registered a profit for the first time in its existence. By taking advantage of Lenovo’s huge popularity at home, its smartphone business has just gobbled up a 14.8% market share in China, placing the company above Apple as China’s second-most popular smartphone brand, behind Samsung.

It’ll be interesting to see what comes of rumors that suggest Lenovo is looking at acquiring Research in Motion, the maker of Blackberry phones. Lenovo, while acting coy on the subject, hasn’t denied its interest in the phone maker, and if a deal does come off this would fit into its “attack strategy” of expansion into foreign markets, since Blackberry (for all its problems) still has some popularity with enterprise users.

Intriguingly, this raises the unlikely prospect of Lenovo emerging as a genuine challenger to Samsung and Apple’s dominance of global smartphone markets. People might scoff at the notion now, but if Lenovo can surpass all expectations in what many view as a declining market, just imagine what kind of damage it could do if it decides to focus on a market that’s displaying such massive growth.

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/0...al-domination-apple-samsung-better-watch-out/
 
There is another thing: marketing gimicks.

Chinese companies from China are not good at it at all.

Actually a lot of my friends have no problem buying either Samsung or Huawei because the price is not important to us. But Huawei's lower price put many of them off just because it fits right into people's general misguided preconception that it's cheaper because of lower quality.

So I am not sure Huawei's marketing is correct enough to take on Apple or Samsung only with lower price but the similar quality. If you're good, charge the proper price, the same or even slightly higher, than Apple and Samsung, people will look at you differently. Many young people here in Europe choose brand by choosing the highest price tag. Highest price = highest quality = newsest fashion = cool. The rest is not that important to us. e.g. long before anyone heard about the name of Samsung or even Nokia, one of the first phones I bought more than 12 years ago was Sony, a very tiny one with a half palm size and still working today, costed me at a time > 1,000 Euro, almost double the price of Motorola, Siemans and Ericsson, the other best in the market then. This Sony was sold red hot in Holland.
You do not understand marketing strategy. We must offer our smartphones at cheap price to rack up market share, gaining more "brand" loyal customer before rolling out high-end smartphone globally. This is a smart strategy employed by any newcomers. You must start slow and low before going big with a BANG!
 
xunzi,

Posting a large Apple advertisement doesn't change the fact. Asia has factories and America has companies. There lies all the difference.

Your ignorance is beyond holy mice.

Dutch and German youngsters have been at the forefront of global fashion (at least in Europe) most of the time, being the newest brands of clothing or gadgets. In Holland, many of us start to recognise Huawei as cool and of very high quality.
 
You do not understand marketing strategy. We must offer our smartphones at cheap price to rack up market share, gaining more "brand" loyal customer before rolling out high-end smartphone globally. This is a smart strategy employed by any newcomers. You must start slow and low before going big with a BANG!

ok, fair enoguh.

but huawei had rolled out many much cheaper smartphones previosuly. P6 is supposed to be its new flagship. Dutch pundits think p6 is the first huawei phone that could match Samsung S4 and iphone 5. many including me also think that P6 is the most elegant amongst them - so has a potential to go a big bang. My question is WHY the heck it prices it well below its competitiors. sure, cheaper prices may gain some market share in general sense, but in the high end market segment, the people don't care that much you are slightly cheaper or not - WE DON"T CARE paying 3oo or 600 or 700 as long as it's good - cheaper prices then could easily backfire.
 
You know nothing. 10 years ago, Samsung was competing for low-end phones just like most of Chinese mobile company today. 10 years ago, Nokia was the market leader in cellphone until Apple role out its revolutionary smartphone. Samsung then catch up, partnering with Google-Android to outmaneuver Apples IOS to become the market leader and its flagship Galaxy Smartphone becomes the the number #1 rival of Iphone, mainly because of MARKETING. Of course, you need substance to back up your marketing. We have the substance but we don't have the marketing power of Samsung and Apple because those two are deep pocket company that can invest in billion of dollar in marketing to brainwash people into believing their phone is the fastest or most technologically advance.

You are a joke. I ask you, why is Samsung so successful, a market leader, despite using ANDROID OS? You did not answer that question, so everyone can see your double-standard when evaluating Chinese mobile. I cannot take a joker serious until you answer appropriate why Samsung can use Andoird but we are not allow to be market leader using the same Android. Do you forget that not all Android behaves the same? Each company has their "own company flavor" to the base Android OS.

I guess you either were not born yet or too young to own a phone 10 or so years ago

I guess either way, you have not ever heard of the Samsung m-100 mobile phone?

Back in 1996, you're right, Samsung was indeed an occupied with low-end mobile phone market, after 1998 tho, Samsung say it can be no more as they have made a wrong investment on CDMA market instead of GSM market, back then GSM were considered high end phone market, which the top of the range product is still selling today at the absolutely low end

In come M-100, what make M-100 great phone at all time is not the style nor its quality, but network service and innovation

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_m100-reviews-208.php

Back at 2000, when the most advanced phone you call on the market was a flip phone, then in come Samsung M-100 which was claim argubly as the world FIRST Inbuild MP-3 phone, where in trun it spawn the mobile giant at that time alike to Incorperated MP3 in their respective phone.

Also, it was one of the first phone that run dual channel GSM network, this is one of the best out there, 13 years ago, I choose this phone instead of the Nokia phone, and Motorola, which all selling for about 2000 HKD

To say Samsung is focusing on low end market 10 years ago is absurd and stupid, they were long a competitor for advance and sophicated phone maker in 2000, and of equal to less footing than the then 3 giants, Nokia, Erisson and Motorala, did you even know how Samsung get to the top on 2009 at quad band GSM market? It's because they are the first one to adopt android which killed off apple IOs and IOs in turn killed off the opera system using in phone like Nokia, SE back in 2007

So to answer your second question,
Its not Samsung make Android on top, it's Android make Samsung in top people think android, they will relate with Samsung, that is why Samsung is on top, and no Chinese phone could achieve that as long as they are using the google android, unless Chinese have make an OS whenever mentioned will immediate related to brand like Huawei or Lenovo. They can never surpass Samsung on anything.

See kid, it never because of the brand and the phone that being a certain company on top, it's the network and OS

CDMA got wiped out by GSM, GSM got wipe out by 2G, 2g got wiped out by 3G, and 3G have its own battle of android and IOs,phone company never matter.

Again you can go say mark my word this and that and China will become this and that, that does not mean it is true or it will be true, this is my final post here, dream all you want, without and facts and reference support, it's a waste of time talking to you
 
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Lol, that sentence show people like you know NOTHING in mobile device technology

Did you ever know when the CDMA technology is out on 1996, Samsung achieved 51% of global market share in PCS market by 1997?


And do you Samsung were awarded Mobile News Award by global competitor and beaten Nokia, Motorola alike in 1998 and 2000?

To say nobody will consider asamsung phone over Nokia and SE is extremely stupid talk, using profanity will not make your comment more true or certain.

Ofcourse you can continue to say China will this and China will that, without any base of change and somewhat reference, everyone can say anything, it's who can back it up with facts that count. Unless you can come up with a reference to show me how Chinese phone is going to dominate the market without changing the OS, I am not interested in empty debating with ignorant cheerleader like yourselves


Xunzi is right that 10 years ago no one would buy samsung than nokia.

10 years ago, at least in Europe, nokia was what samsung is today. The most expansive one was Sony. Nokia and Motorola got most of youth and coporate market. Other brands such as Siemens and Ericsson also got some market shares. Samsung made its big bang in Europe in about 2006 I think when suddenly all of us thought it's cooler than Nokia. Prior to that samsung was nobody in Europe.

By the way @xunzi : in 2006 when Samsung first laucnhed its big bang flagship phone in Europe, it priced itself more expansive than the best- the market leader at a time - of Nokia. None of us cared and still bought Samsung. That's why i think if Huawei thinks P6 is its moment, pricing it lower than Samsung S4 and iphone to get high end market segment share is a mistake, unless of course Huawei has a more exclusive phone better than P6 ready to launch.
 
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Xunzi is right that 10 years ago no one would buy samsung than nokia.

10 years ago, at least in Europe, nokia was what samsung is today. The most expansive one was Sony. Nokia and Motorola got most of youth and coporate market. Other brands such as Siemens and Ericsson also got some market shares. Samsung made its big bang in Europe in about 2006 I think when suddenly all of us thought it's cooler than Nokia. Prior to that samsung was nobody in Europe.

Lol, low market, yes. Virtually nobody? No

The reason why Samsung is a low heat in Europe is because GSM is the preferred network of choice in Europe, where as rest of the world (America, Japan, Asis) were using CDMA, Samsung were major power of mobile phone in CDMA up until 2000 and it have far less GSM phone than CDMA handset

Problem is, back then, which network take the biggest share of the pie? It was CDMA, not until the year 2000, where mobile phone are more affordable and the need of carrier change make apprent, that started to kill off CDMA phone, there are one major advantage on GSM over CDMA is, you do not need a new phone every time you change a carrier. That is why in most of the 2000s, it was the European phone company that excel in mobile phone business Nokia - Finland, Siemens - Germany, Erisson - Sweden where the Americas only have Motorola, why not, the Europe has won, the world chooses GSM instead of CDMA.
 
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