Why we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

[Han Patriot]

You need F-16 as a form of tribute to US. To be under the Empire's security umbrella, you need to pay protection fee.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

This is not a flame thread. There are valid doubts about technological capabilities of Indian organizations. Let there be debate.

We have a right to know because these organizations are using the name of our country on international platform and they are playing with our emotions by creating a sense of pride - real or false.

So why do we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

I can think of TWO explanations.

Explanation 1:

It is reminiscent of past. You notice the pattern?

Faking a technological capability so that USA doesn't deny the genuine technology because we have pretended that we have that technology anyways. Indians did that with the computer technology. Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Abdul Kalam had said, "West offers technology only if the recipient country is on the verge of perfecting that technology." It should be added that there's no need to perfect the technology. Feigning the technological capability by bribing Western media houses would suffice.

Explanation 2:

Industrial espionage: Producing F-16s on Indian soil will facilitate the copying of Western technology. HAL and DRDO engineers disguised as workers and staff of TATA will take employment in the manufacturing units of Lockheed Martin located in India. These HAL and DRDO spies will make covert observations of production of F-16 planes. When they go home after working hours are over, they will document all the technology and production techniques learnt by spying in Lockheed Martin-TATA factories. Is this practice called as industrial espionage? Technology transfer in a cost effective but hook or crook way.

LCA neither has the range or the payload or the proven capability along with weapon diversity.

 

[Malik Usman]

Are yor comparing the TEJAS with F-16...........waooo...joke of the day........you made my day............

 

[Trango Towers]

LCA neither has the range or the payload or the proven capability along with weapon diversity.

But it's all and in India except the engine, the radar, the weapons, the avionics, the airframe design and the tyres.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

But it's all and in India except the engine, the radar, the weapons, the avionics, the airframe design and the tyres.

So? We need a weapon that can go to war and achieve operational objectives, not just because we made it. The operational situation right now needs a medium weight category aircraft with range and payload for deep strike missions like SEAD and deploying PGM. LCA does not have the capability yet and wont have it till MK2 which I am strongly against. We need to invest more in medium weight category aircraft.

 

[Trango Towers]

So? We need a weapon that can go to war and achieve operational objectives, not just because we made it. The operational situation right now needs a medium weight category aircraft with range and payload for deep strike missions like SEAD and deploying PGM. LCA does not have the capability yet and wont have it till MK2 which I am strongly against. We need to invest more in medium weight category aircraft.

You see you have answered sensibly and I can understand a country wanting to invest in its own industry. Pakistan has invested in jf17. We produce more than 50percent of the components but it's not our baby entirely and we don't claim that either. In India chest thumping has become a sport much like cricket but all empty claims. Glad people like you with reasoning exist

 

[vikata]

You see you have answered sensibly and I can understand a country wanting to invest in its own industry. Pakistan has invested in jf17. We produce more than 50percent of the components but it's not our baby entirely and we don't claim that either. In India chest thumping has become a sport much like cricket but all empty claims. Glad people like you with reasoning exist

whats your contribution for jf17 ,kindly back yourself with the source
and ancillary industries which is associated with the project
back yourself with data which proves that it is not the only screwdriver job which pakistan is doing

 

[GodToons]

just incase the teja lca has a diarrhoea.

View: Navy's rejection of Tejas is a lesson, failure of DRDO


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

By Admiral Arun Prakash (retd.)

The peremptory rejection of the shipborne variant of the Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) by the Indian Navy seems to have surprised most navy-watching analysts. Their confusion has been compounded by the near-simultaneous issuance of a global request for information (RFI) for procurement of "57 multirole fighters for its aircraft carriers" by Naval HQ.

One can deduce two compelling reasons for this, seemingly, radical v ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


sorry does not allow me to copy and paste all of the info here you must click link.

Another troll post. knowing that Naval version was only tech demonstrator and LCA2 for Navy is the requirement

This is not a flame thread. There are valid doubts about technological capabilities of Indian organizations. Let there be debate.

We have a right to know because these organizations are using the name of our country on international platform and they are playing with our emotions by creating a sense of pride - real or false.

So why do we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

I can think of TWO explanations.

Explanation 1:

It is reminiscent of past. You notice the pattern?

Faking a technological capability so that USA doesn't deny the genuine technology because we have pretended that we have that technology anyways. Indians did that with the computer technology. Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Abdul Kalam had said, "West offers technology only if the recipient country is on the verge of perfecting that technology." It should be added that there's no need to perfect the technology. Feigning the technological capability by bribing Western media houses would suffice.

ARE YOU SERIOUS FALSE FLAGGER!!!

 

[Penguin]

You need F-16 as a form of tribute to US. To be under the Empire's security umbrella, you need to pay protection fee.

(why not F-35 then?)

This is not a flame thread. There are valid doubts about technological capabilities of Indian organizations. Let there be debate.

We have a right to know because these organizations are using the name of our country on international platform and they are playing with our emotions by creating a sense of pride - real or false.

So why do we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

I can think of TWO explanations.

Explanation 1:

It is reminiscent of past. You notice the pattern?

Faking a technological capability so that USA doesn't deny the genuine technology because we have pretended that we have that technology anyways. Indians did that with the computer technology. Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Abdul Kalam had said, "West offers technology only if the recipient country is on the verge of perfecting that technology." It should be added that there's no need to perfect the technology. Feigning the technological capability by bribing Western media houses would suffice.

Explanation 2:

Industrial espionage: Producing F-16s on Indian soil will facilitate the copying of Western technology. HAL and DRDO engineers disguised as workers and staff of TATA will take employment in the manufacturing units of Lockheed Martin located in India. These HAL and DRDO spies will make covert observations of production of F-16 planes. When they go home after working hours are over, they will document all the technology and production techniques learnt by spying in Lockheed Martin-TATA factories. Is this practice called as industrial espionage? Technology transfer in a cost effective but hook or crook way.

Perhaps because F16 is bigger/heavier aircraft, that is capable of carrying twice the Tejas' ordnance load, over twice the Tejas' range?

 

[randomradio]

Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Fake testing Param even if it was the Germans who tested it?

Explanation 2

:

Industrial espionage: Producing F-16s on Indian soil will facilitate the copying of Western technology. HAL and DRDO engineers disguised as workers and staff of TATA will take employment in the manufacturing units of Lockheed Martin located in India. These HAL and DRDO spies will make covert observations of production of F-16 planes. When they go home after working hours are over, they will document all the technology and production techniques learnt by spying in Lockheed Martin-TATA factories. Is this practice called as industrial espionage? Technology transfer in a cost effective but hook or crook way.

 

[Han Patriot]

(why not F-35 then?)



Perhaps because F16 is bigger/heavier aircraft, that is capable of carrying twice the Tejas' ordnance load, over twice the Tejas' range?

Can you afford F35? If you can afford and they are offering it, seriously why not F-35?

 

[indianfighter1999]

Can you afford F35? If you can afford and they are offering it, seriously why not F-35?

ur country pakistan cant afford F35 false flagger

 

[Han Patriot]

ur country pakistan cant afford F35 false flagger

Bro,
Just because I ask you a question you can't answer and that makes me a Pakistani?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

This is not a flame thread. There are valid doubts about technological capabilities of Indian organizations. Let there be debate.

We have a right to know because these organizations are using the name of our country on international platform and they are playing with our emotions by creating a sense of pride - real or false.

So why do we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

I can think of TWO explanations.

Explanation 1:

It is reminiscent of past. You notice the pattern?

Faking a technological capability so that USA doesn't deny the genuine technology because we have pretended that we have that technology anyways. Indians did that with the computer technology. Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Abdul Kalam had said, "West offers technology only if the recipient country is on the verge of perfecting that technology." It should be added that there's no need to perfect the technology. Feigning the technological capability by bribing Western media houses would suffice.

Explanation 2:

Industrial espionage: Producing F-16s on Indian soil will facilitate the copying of Western technology. HAL and DRDO engineers disguised as workers and staff of TATA will take employment in the manufacturing units of Lockheed Martin located in India. These HAL and DRDO spies will make covert observations of production of F-16 planes. When they go home after working hours are over, they will document all the technology and production techniques learnt by spying in Lockheed Martin-TATA factories. Is this practice called as industrial espionage? Technology transfer in a cost effective but hook or crook way.

@SOUTHie

 

[Chhatrapati]

@abcxyz0000
The real reason why F-16 is being sought from the US is unknown.
From the news I've read in the past, we are looking for the most advanced F-16 Blk 70. Which may be better than Tejas. Tejas is good for dogfight, you can see from the high maneuverability design of the jet.

F-16 is battle proven fighters. While Tejas has yet to have one.
Block 70 has AESA radars, Ground Collision Avoidance System, better targeting pods, and a wider Battle space awareness, with high-resolution 6 x 8 screen. Can carry more armaments

Coming to Tejas it has coherent pulse Doppler Multi Mode Radar, Uses a Digital Fly by wire system, which is common in F-16 too. F-17 Blk 70 m=would cost $60+million while Tejas would cost at around $25 million.