Why we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

[B@tt!eDoom]

We only know of one junk and that's arjunk.

TEJA induction would only happen after support from US/ France.


What is low end task and high end task?

120 have already been ordered & being inducted. Squrdon is also operating..
You have nothing mate
All are Chinese clones which were copied from somewhere.

 

[BATMAN]

Ever heard about Mirage 2000, MIG 21, Mig 27 in Indian Air force??
they all are single engine fighters - and in total of 550+ aircrafts.

all are from the time of single engine era.
During the time when Pakistan was sanctioned by US, India turned away from Dassault and choose to buy more safer ride with twin engine.

 

[Lalmd]

Most of people writing here are illerate because it's not Indian government but a private Indian company Tata is buying them.
And yes it's an outdated technology.
I don't think Americans will ever give any country the technology to build warplanes after what Chinese did to them.

By the way how is it going on in COLONY OF CHINA ?

 

[313ghazi]

This is not a flame thread. There are valid doubts about technological capabilities of Indian organizations. Let there be debate.

We have a right to know because these organizations are using the name of our country on international platform and they are playing with our emotions by creating a sense of pride - real or false.

So why do we need F-16 planes when we have Tejas LCA?

I can think of one explanation.

It is reminiscent of past. You notice the pattern?

Faking a technological capability so that USA doesn't deny the genuine technology because we have pretended that we have that technology anyways. Indians did that with the computer technology. Faked building of supercomputer PARAM which paved way to Americans allowing the export of personal computers to India.

Abdul Kalam had said, "West offers technology only if the recipient country is on the verge of perfecting that technology." It should be added that there's no need to perfect the technology. Feigning the technological capability by bribing Western media houses would suffice.

Unfortunately its not that intelligent.

LCA was an over ambitious project. India initially tried to build everything from scratch, struggled to do so, the project fell behind in budget and timescale, they then got imported foreign parts to assemble into a plane, it didn't work well and required refinement. In the time taken to get an end product the market has moved on. LCA failed to deliver in the required time.

If this wasn't a vanity project for the government of India it would have been scrapped years ago. The airforce is being forced to take units to save face. The Indian aerospace has learnt a lot but in the end LCA is not good enough.

 

[Ocean]

How is it a good one when it's false?

But why f16 in when india rejected it long time back? Is it possible India would manufacture and sell it but not induct?

 

[BABA AGHORI]

all are from the time of single engine era.
During the time when Pakistan was sanctioned by US, India turned away from Dassault and choose to buy more safer ride with twin engine.

Is there a single engine era ? How many engines F35 has ? and do you want to say J17 is an outdated platform?

Indian doctrine is for Heavy, Medium, Light combat aircraft... Hope you understand the difference between these 3 types.

Have a nice day.. And Eid Mubarak

But why f16 in when india rejected it long time back? Is it possible India would manufacture and sell it but not induct?

it was rejected for MMRCA requirement -- and with older version of F16. This requirement is to replace M21.

 

[cyborga8a]

Because with the phenomenal growth of JF-17 in the pipeline, India is taking preemptive measures to catch up.

Your medications are not working!

 

[Lalmd]

Yes our medications are not working but at least we are trying !

At least we are not selling our country to Chinese who have history of accquiring Agri land...same did China do with Myanmar,Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
Not it's your turn

Selling your country will establish you as a Chinese colony.... don't worry it will probably take 10 more years.

 

[Dash]

What is low end task and high end task?

Lengthy topic, so will give outliers. F16 is not an air superiority fighter, f 15 is.

When news of PAF scored against Italian Typhoons with F-16 went viral, IAF got panicked and Rafael order was reversed, and F-16 jumped in.

A fighter selection doesn't happen in the basis of points scored in excercises. Its the doctorine and operational requirements that matter.

For example even mig 21s have scored points against F16s and F15s. Does that make F16s a lesser fighter?

all are from the time of single engine era.
During the time when Pakistan was sanctioned by US, India turned away from Dassault and choose to buy more safer ride with twin engine.

So a single engine fighter is not safe? Or less safer? Heck, USN must be stupid to go for F35s from its carriers!!

 

[khujliwal]

We need F16 to get MFN status from Pakistan. The civillian trade is not enough for that. When the first consignment of F Sola spares goes to Lahore from Delhi, we'll get MFN status.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Gripen was also not considered in MMRCA
Gripen E has not Have any big Advantage over f-16 blk 70

Gripen was not considered because India wanted an AESA radar,
and that was not available.
While India was informed that Gripen E were planned to have AESA,
the availability of Gripen E did not match the MMRCA requirements.
Gripen E has an AESA radar and is now flying - and has quite a few advantages over Block 70.

 

[cerberus]

Gripen E has an AESA radar and is now flying - and has quite a few advantages over Block 70.

Is better than APG-83

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Is better than APG-83

Yes.
One of the main advantages is the movable AESA array, which gives a much wider Arc of search.
The F-16, due to its limited arc must fly towards the target after it has fired
a radar guided missile, while the Gripen can fly away from the target after it has fired a missile.

 

[Mitho1980]

Yar choro jee ab beeta apnae baap ke qadmoon mien chal kar bara hoga na..... Baap jo 35 saal phele kar chuka hai beeta ab karae ga....

 

[Hulk]

Both the F16IN and Gripen E would be rejected from the navy's RFI as well. What's your point?

He just want to troll, what's the point asking logical question to a troll.

Gripen failed too. If you ask who is a better plane then F16 is the one. And btw F16 is being considered on the premise that it will fill the low end fighter gap while Sukhois and Rafales get the high end task.

And like I said before it's not about getting a plane it's all about building capability and taking Indian production to international standard, which we lack.

BLK 70 is low end and BLK 54 is expected to compete with Rafale and Sukhoi. Where is the gap in understanding?