Why was Turkey the first Islamic country to recognize the state of Israel?

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@Northern India is not any better...It is different than Pakistan, in the ways it is primitive (laughably so)--but primitive all the same

Well both countries according to some of its inhabitants are sanctified in case of one another. I don't see a problem with religion but it halts human progress in a very stupid way and destroys rationality and this I say again to (some) in which case probably millions in both countries.
As much as I hate cows blocking roads in India because they holy I also hate the Pakistani religious scholars who deny that the population has already exceeded its limits long time ago but the same Mullah will be stuck in traffic cursing why aren't the cars moving. lol

On topic Turkey went through evolutionary phases of social change (400 years of shariah law ) which contributed to their population not burning down whole towns or city blocks because Government recognised Israel and legitimised the Palestinian problem by doing so in the first place.

 

[Ray-of-Hope]

Turkey is a secular country that stands for progress and safety first and foremost. They already share very good relations with nearly all Islamic countries, and there's nothing wrong in expanding the gesture with non-Islamic countries. After all, the Turks are business orientated as well so it makes sense.

Attaturk has truly produced a proud and happy nation.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Turkey is a secular country that stands for progress and safety first and foremost. They already share very good relations with nearly all Islamic countries, and there's nothing wrong in expanding the gesture with non-Islamic countries. After all, the Turks are business orientated as well so it makes sense.

Attaturk has truly produced a proud and happy nation.

Lol praising Turkey because it is a secular country? Why not praise Saudi Arabia instead ?

 

[xenon54 out]

Well, that freedom that you are talking about is not in my favor. But anyways i leave it to themselves. 50+ % of Turkish people chose to follow Islamists. That makes sense. Turkey with pro-Islam governors is always stronger and can bargain more. Their history has proved this.
Western freedom is not freedom of thoughts or freedom of speech. It's only about being NUDE, drinking wine, visiting brothels and living like a pig. Turks refuted that in the recent elections. Again makes sense to me.

In west you will be prisoned if you deny Holocaust or capitalism. Their freedom is crap, for someone looking from outside, oh they have beautiful civilization but have you seen the external debt of EU countries? The more they have freedom, the more they are slaves of Imperialists e.g. Luxamburg and Denmark. They are broken by Imperialists but live happily. huh, i have no idea that when and where Imperialists would impose an other war on them to control their birth rate like WW1, WW2 etc but they are blinded happy dudes. Off topic already, but let's leave it to Turks who want to live freely. And with their own proud culture not with with western freedom.

Always the same old thing, 50% bla bla bla, at least 70% of those 50% simply vote for AKP for their past economic success and because theres no alternative, all it needs for AKP to be gone is a economic crisis coupled with a strong opponent, then we will see how much is left of AKP's legacy.

Dont forget that AKP couldnt form a goverment in 2015 because they barely got 40% and this was before shyt hit the fan, now imagine what will happen afterwards.

 

[Ray-of-Hope]

Lol praising Turkey because it is a secular country? Why not praise Saudi Arabia instead ?

I'm not praising Turkey, I'm saying it how it is. Besides, majority of Turkish people consider their fellow Muslims, from anywhere on earth, equal as human beings. Not all Muslim nations have that attitude.

 

[Solomon2]

"Israel is a reality. More than thirty countries have already recognized it. The Arab representatives are themselves holding talks [on Rhodes] with their counterparts."
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- Necmettin Sadak, Turkey Foreign Minister, February 8, 1949 (Ayin Tarihi #183, March, 1949, as quoted in Ömer Kürkçüoğlu, "Turkey's Attitude towards the Middle East Conflict", Dış politika (Foreign Policy), Ankara, volume 5, No. 4, (1976), p.29, from Islamic Attitudes to Israel, edt. Efraim Karsh, p. 181.)

Turkey recognized the State of Israel in March, 1949.

 

[MultaniGuy]

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"Israel is a reality. More than thirty countries have already recognized it. The Arab representatives are themselves holding talks [on Rhodes] with their counterparts."
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- Necmettin Sadak, Turkey Foreign Minister, February 8, 1949 (Ayin Tarihi #183, March, 1949, as quoted in Ömer Kürkçüoğlu, "Turkey's Attitude towards the Middle East Conflict", Dış politika (Foreign Policy), Ankara, volume 5, No. 4, (1976), p.29, from Islamic Attitudes to Israel, edt. Efraim Karsh, p. 181.)

Turkey recognized the State of Israel in March, 1949.

Thats why I accept the two state solution.

 

[Solomon2]

Thats why I accept the two state solution.

The "Arab representatives" Sadak referred to were those from surrounding Arab states: Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon.

 

[MultaniGuy]

The "Arab representatives" Sadak referred to were those from surrounding Arab states: Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon.

OKay then do you accept the two state solution.

Accept the two state solution, but your pathetic Israel won't even accept that.

 

[T-123456]

I don't agree with Kemalism, it's to me comparable to Stalinism ...a complete forced social change ..

Thats is big bs,there is no Kemalism.
That what you describe as ''Kemalism'',doesnt and never existed in my country.
''Forced sociaal change''?
All the changes made were to keep Islamists from influencing the people in the wrong way,a good thing that Ataturk hanged most of the radical Islamists.

I couldn't understand few days back when my half Turk/German friend told me that people in turkey and a large portion still hates attaturk and that is understandable because he was a commited anti-liberal more so in a social facist way.

Again,even bigger bs,im sure he is an AKP supporter ''blinded by the AKP light'',only the hardcore AKPeans hate Ataturk which is at most 15% of the population.

As a Pakistani this is why I love M.A Jinnah because he is not controversial like attaturk and highly respected by educated people even in India may allah grant him the highest place among his servants

So,why was M.Ali Jinnah one of the biggest fans of such a ''controversial'' leader like Ataturk?
Im sure that you knew what he(Jinnah) was called by his daughter,right?
''Grey Wolf'',in reference to Ataturk.
So,what was M.Ali Jinnah's plan for Pakistan you think?
The same system as in my country,Liberal Secularism(Laik),the name was Pakistan but unfortunately,he didnt live long enough to keep it that way so the Islamists changed the country into ''Islamic Republic of Pakistan''(Objectives Resolution).

Know what you are talking about.

 

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Thats is big bs,

Sure there is Kemalism , It's what your country is in a Nutshell ,Wannabe westerners ,All you turks care about is "Secularism" ,You dance naked to the bandwagon of secularism particularly the hardcore radical secularists like yourself who call each and everything "BS" then go on ranting like idiots..

 

[asena_great]

Sure there is Kemalism , It's what your country is in a Nutshell ,Wannabe westerners ,All you turks care about is "Secularism" ,You dance naked to the bandwagon of secularism particularly the hardcore radical secularists like yourself who call each and everything "BS" then go on ranting like idiots..

@cabatli_53

 

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@cabatli_53

Yea go on ,This is kindergarden for you now is it kid?
The mod can go ahead and give me a negative rating if he wants.......I won't edit my post ,I've seen and read enough of turkey and that is my perspective, I don't call what people write BULL SHIT Just because I don't like what they say.

 

[T-123456]

@cabatli_53

Bro,its on ME section,not Turkish,let them have their ''moment of glory''.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Bro,its on ME section,not Turkish,let them have their ''moment of glory''.

Besides this is a Pakistani forum.

Pakistanis have a right to have their views on the ataturk.