Why the Tejas-1A will be a lethal option for the IAF

[GURU DUTT]

But he singles out Tejas as ever. He may tell that since tejas do not travel in space, it is inferior.



All you mention shall be incorporated before 6 months which is not more than 6 month away.

cause he is a false flagger pakistani who is too ashamed of showing his true flags deu to his acute sense of ehsaas e kamtarri towards india

 

[knight11]

Never heard of 30 mm cannon installed on fighter aircraft?

Janab India ko Chod kar why running for Pakistani Airforce

IAF Mig 27M with 30 mm GSh-6-30 six-barrel cannon with 260 rounds of ammunition in a fuselage gondola and IRST.
It is the same gun which the pilot tried to fire in starffing continous mode at high altitude of Kargil which cause the Engine flameout because the shear power of the gun reduces the speed of the plane to 20mph and at high altitide it resulted in suicidal result.

 

[Indian Patriot]

But he singles out Tejas as ever. He may tell that since tejas do not travel in space, it is inferior.

Let the tejas at least fly first. Then we can all agree it is an aircraft and not a fancy looking IFV.

All you mention shall be incorporated before 6 months which is not more than 6 month away.

IAF Mig 27M with 30 mm GSh-6-30 six-barrel cannon with 260 rounds of ammunition in a fuselage gondola and IRST.
It is the same gun which the pilot tried to fire in starffing continous mode at high altitude of Kargil which cause the Engine flameout because the shear power of the gun reduces the speed of the plane to 20mph and at high altitide it resulted in suicidal result.

Aircraft need proper maintenance to ensure all its weapons and components are working fine. If you are so dumb to even think that an aircraft can get by using only missiles then don't respond further.

 

[killer elite]

No, only LCA is weak. It is an aircraft with almost no ballistic protection, no EW suite, no mid-air refueling, no BVR missiles and has a small payload and range.

ballistic protection is provided by titanium and carbon composite materials, EW suite is already in tajes.(externally mounted) mid air refueling will be added before introduction, tajes can fire BVR missiles, tajes is single engine jet, all single engine jets have small combat radius and carry less payload. tajes is an air defense jet. not a deep penetration strike jet to have a longer range and payload.

 

[HariPrasad]

Let the tejas at least fly first. Then we can all agree it is an aircraft and not a fancy looking IFV.







Aircraft need proper maintenance to ensure all its weapons and components are working fine. If you are so dumb to even think that an aircraft can get by using only missiles then don't respond further.

It is already flying since 2001 and done 3000 sorties with AOA is reaching 30* now. Short range missile fired hit the target with a bang and bombs were right on the bang. We had inducted Mirage without gun and MKI with lots of deficiencies.

 

[HariPrasad]

@fsayed

Namaskar Sayed bhai. Bahot dino ke bad mile Aap. Hum parliament election se pahele discuss kiya karte the indian political corne mai. Nice to see you.

 

[fsayed]

@fsayed

Namaskar Sayed bhai. Bahot dino ke bad mile Aap. Hum parliament election se pahele discuss kiya karte the indian political corne mai. Nice to see you.

Thanks same to u bhai mere accha laga apne Jo yaad rakha Hume hope every thing in ur life is fine and good

 

[Akasa]

No china requested MKI like radar which was denied. The question here is that when a country has a AESA like Radar than why would it accept significantly inferior Radar in package? This proved that china did not have the RADAR equivalent to MKK also.

Same is the case of HQ ABM. After declaring them to be superior to S series of Russia, they went to Russia to beg S400.

There was no specific request for the Bars radar, and as far as I know the MKK's original plan involved the N001VE/P.

The Su-30MKK deal happened during the late 1990s, during which the Chinese have not yet deployed its AESA systems, so they understandably viewed the platform as a stop-gap measure (the Chinese were interested in the MKK's strike abilities, not merely avionics).

Sir stick to the nose mounted MMR for the fighter plane with size constrain. Don't mix AEW airborne Aesa Radars

Are the J-11D, J-16, J-15S, J-10C, J-20, and J-31 not fighters?

 

[knight11]

There was no specific request for the Bars radar, and as far as I know the MKK's original plan involved the N001VE/P.

The Su-30MKK deal happened during the late 1990s, during which the Chinese have not yet deployed its AESA systems, so they understandably viewed the platform as a stop-gap measure (the Chinese were interested in the MKK's strike abilities, not merely avionics).

Sir What about Interest in Pesa Ibris-E

Are the J-11D, J-16, J-15S, J-10C, J-20, and J-31 not fighters?

They are which Radar and informative links pls,

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Lolz .... Roflll ...... Induct then talk ....... There is a reason behind the rejection of new flying coffin aka tejas .

 

[killer elite]

There is a reason behind the rejection of new flying coffin aka tejas

is that a pakistani logic to call a FA which have a record of zero crash can be called flying coffin??

 

[Skywalker]

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There is no iota of doubt that the LCA is a world-class fighter, the cutting-edge technology employed in the overall design of the fighter is contemporary and LCA Tejas in its current form will not go obsolete for decades.

The reasons are many, Tejas has an Air-frame designed for strength and stiffness under specified loads in extreme environment with durability and damage tolerance. The fighter incorporates a highly reliable quadruplex digital Fly-By-Wire (FBW) Flight Control System to ease handling by the pilot. The digital FBW system of the Tejas employs a powerful digital flight control computer (DFCC) comprising four computing channels, each with its own independent power supply and all housed in a single Line Replaceable Units (LRU). The new generation glass cockpit comprises Multi Function Displays (MFD), Head Up Display (HUD) and Stand by Instrumentation System driven by Open Architecture Mission and Display Computer. The computer interfaces with pilot display systems like the MFD is through the MIL-STD-1553B multiplex avionics data buses and RS-422 serial links. MIL-STD-1553 is a military standard published by the United States Department of Defense that defines the mechanical, electrical, and functional characteristics of a serial data bus.


So why was IAF earlier opposing the induction of the Tejas in its fleet, some of the the main reasons are as follows:


Firstly, the lack of Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar solution. The inherent advantages of AESA radar are the obvious inertia-less scanning and the minimal feeder loss as no lengthy feeder cables are involved. Unlike in the MSA radar, the AESA radar has the impudence to perform even with failure of some of its radiating elements. The AESA radar helps build substantially compact radar systems resulting in low weight, minimal aerodynamic drag, and relatively smaller radar cross-section (RCS), all of which are of vital importance operationally for the Tejas aircraft. Besides, the AESA radar provides enhanced beam agility with higher reliability. The latest AESA sensor further helps track air and sea-targets simultaneously while maintaining the routine scan over the operational area.


DRDO has already built a ground based AESA radar, though the technology has been developed it is still in the process of miniaturizing the technology to be fitted into the Tejas's radome, this radar is called the UTTAM.


The Tejas fighter now incorporates the Israeli EL/M-2032 advanced pulse Doppler, multimode planar array fire-control radar which has a maximum range of around 150 km. HAL has also integrated the Israeli Derby and Python air-to-air missiles, and a data link that digitally interconnects between all the hardware elements.


The need of the hour is to hasten the Uttam development or look for an import substitute as a stop-gap arrangement, Elta's own EL/M 2052 AESA radar could be a viable option for the Tejas. The EL/M-2052 is based on a fully solid-state active phased array technology which has a longer detection range, high mission reliability and a multi-target tracking capability of up to 64 targets. In Air-to-ground missions, the radar provides very high resolution mapping (SAR), surface moving target detection and tracking over RBM, DBS and SAR maps in addition to A/G ranging.


Apart from Elta India has the option to choose from several other manufacturers such as Northrop Grumman, Raytheon (US based), Thales, Euroradar, Selex, Ericsson (European based), Toshiba, Phazotron & Tikhomirov NIIP (Russian based). But right now Elta looks like the ideal choice since it was reported that HAL was also looking to upgrade all the squadrons of Jaguars & Mirage fighters with these radars.


Secondly, HAL has also undertaken to equip the Tejas with air-to-air refueling and a electro-optic Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite under its wing as these capabilities are lacking in the first-cut Mk-1 version.


Lastly, Janes Defense Weekly reported that HAL envisages the Mk 1A as being around 1,000 kg lighter than the Mk 1, which weighs 6,500 kg. It aims to achieve this weight loss by shedding 200-300 kg of ballast secured in the aircraft's nose to stabilise it and another 700-800 kg by reducing its heavy and 'over-engineered' landing gear. The platform would also be fitted with Israeli firm ELTA Systems' active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, replacing the heavier and less capable 'hybrid' version of ELTA's EL/M-2032 lightweight multi-mode radar, which was developed jointly with DRDO.


In the final analysis an AESA radar whether it is of Indian or foreign origin will be the most important upgrade and will make the Tejas an effective air-defence fighter. It is also worthy to note here that both China and Pakistan does not have this capability yet.

Nice joke whats next ...tejas will be a direct competitor of f?? In future..lethal my a$$

 

[killer elite]

Nice joke whats next ...tejas will be a direct competitor of f?? In future..lethal my a$$

we know comparing tajes with JF-17 junk is an insult to tajes.. but as both are light weight and single engine category FA. media walas are interested in comparing the two.

 

[Ind4Ever]

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There is no iota of doubt that the LCA is a world-class fighter, the cutting-edge technology employed in the overall design of the fighter is contemporary and LCA Tejas in its current form will not go obsolete for decades.

The reasons are many, Tejas has an Air-frame designed for strength and stiffness under specified loads in extreme environment with durability and damage tolerance. The fighter incorporates a highly reliable quadruplex digital Fly-By-Wire (FBW) Flight Control System to ease handling by the pilot. The digital FBW system of the Tejas employs a powerful digital flight control computer (DFCC) comprising four computing channels, each with its own independent power supply and all housed in a single Line Replaceable Units (LRU). The new generation glass cockpit comprises Multi Function Displays (MFD), Head Up Display (HUD) and Stand by Instrumentation System driven by Open Architecture Mission and Display Computer. The computer interfaces with pilot display systems like the MFD is through the MIL-STD-1553B multiplex avionics data buses and RS-422 serial links. MIL-STD-1553 is a military standard published by the United States Department of Defense that defines the mechanical, electrical, and functional characteristics of a serial data bus.


So why was IAF earlier opposing the induction of the Tejas in its fleet, some of the the main reasons are as follows:


Firstly, the lack of Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar solution. The inherent advantages of AESA radar are the obvious inertia-less scanning and the minimal feeder loss as no lengthy feeder cables are involved. Unlike in the MSA radar, the AESA radar has the impudence to perform even with failure of some of its radiating elements. The AESA radar helps build substantially compact radar systems resulting in low weight, minimal aerodynamic drag, and relatively smaller radar cross-section (RCS), all of which are of vital importance operationally for the Tejas aircraft. Besides, the AESA radar provides enhanced beam agility with higher reliability. The latest AESA sensor further helps track air and sea-targets simultaneously while maintaining the routine scan over the operational area.


DRDO has already built a ground based AESA radar, though the technology has been developed it is still in the process of miniaturizing the technology to be fitted into the Tejas's radome, this radar is called the UTTAM.


The Tejas fighter now incorporates the Israeli EL/M-2032 advanced pulse Doppler, multimode planar array fire-control radar which has a maximum range of around 150 km. HAL has also integrated the Israeli Derby and Python air-to-air missiles, and a data link that digitally interconnects between all the hardware elements.


The need of the hour is to hasten the Uttam development or look for an import substitute as a stop-gap arrangement, Elta's own EL/M 2052 AESA radar could be a viable option for the Tejas. The EL/M-2052 is based on a fully solid-state active phased array technology which has a longer detection range, high mission reliability and a multi-target tracking capability of up to 64 targets. In Air-to-ground missions, the radar provides very high resolution mapping (SAR), surface moving target detection and tracking over RBM, DBS and SAR maps in addition to A/G ranging.


Apart from Elta India has the option to choose from several other manufacturers such as Northrop Grumman, Raytheon (US based), Thales, Euroradar, Selex, Ericsson (European based), Toshiba, Phazotron & Tikhomirov NIIP (Russian based). But right now Elta looks like the ideal choice since it was reported that HAL was also looking to upgrade all the squadrons of Jaguars & Mirage fighters with these radars.


Secondly, HAL has also undertaken to equip the Tejas with air-to-air refueling and a electro-optic Electronic Warfare (EW) sensor suite under its wing as these capabilities are lacking in the first-cut Mk-1 version.


Lastly, Janes Defense Weekly reported that HAL envisages the Mk 1A as being around 1,000 kg lighter than the Mk 1, which weighs 6,500 kg. It aims to achieve this weight loss by shedding 200-300 kg of ballast secured in the aircraft's nose to stabilise it and another 700-800 kg by reducing its heavy and 'over-engineered' landing gear. The platform would also be fitted with Israeli firm ELTA Systems' active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, replacing the heavier and less capable 'hybrid' version of ELTA's EL/M-2032 lightweight multi-mode radar, which was developed jointly with DRDO.


In the final analysis an AESA radar whether it is of Indian or foreign origin will be the most important upgrade and will make the Tejas an effective air-defence fighter. It is also worthy to note here that both China and Pakistan does not have this capability yet.

Tejas is an underestimated fighter! It's more futuristic than trolls here thinks. Let's think about it. A fighter which is made in India, Low cost and designed to have upgraded capabilities than Mirage. Work horse of IAF. 20 in current MK1 configuration. Which mainly be used as a training platform and patrolling duties. 100 more with EW suites,quadruplex digital Fly-By-Wire, 1000 Kg less, AESA radar and full spectrum weapon systems from WVR to BVR... And icing on the cake as it comes with refueling prob for deep strikes. It's delta wings makes it a cheap options for bombing run and low level flying operation to take of less to medium sized radar stations of enemies.

120 Tejas is from already tested MK1 standards. Them comes the beast MK2 with ultimate goal. To beat the best F16 not just to be the best. Tejas fleet the worst nightmare for Pakistan and China. As it alone will form a massive fleet strength of Indian Defence and offensive duties. Along big boys in the business Mirage Rafale MKI and later FGFA or PAKFA and AMCA.

Our sadist friends in neighborhood will jump around for upcoming JF17 mk2 with is just added with refueling prob as a major upgrade . but talk rubbish about Tejas. wha Wha

Lolz .... Roflll ...... Induct then talk ....... There is a reason behind the rejection of new flying coffin aka tejas .

LOL there is a reason for new MK1-P model and there is a reason for no one willing to buy world's cheapest aircraft even after many years of free loans options and diplomatic warnings... Our Tejas is on the way.

 

[Skywalker]

we know comparing tajes with JF-17 junk is an insult to tajes.. but as both are light weight and single engine category FA. media walas are interested in comparing the two.

That junk is flying and in numbers yours are not, dont try to boost your false ego. Indians can only fart, when they farted last time they said TEJ-A, so keep farting.