Why so much hate for America lately?

[T-Rex]

natural vision is something you shouldn't rely on. really. its a fact. Science never rely on natural vision. It relies on instrumentation which provides a better understanding of things than natural vision. (e,g wearing pink glasses over eyes results in seeing things with a pink hue, and several colors disappear ).

However, you need natural vision to understand human nature and diplomacy. Night vision goggles or microscopes won't help you in this. So its better that you stop farting.

 

[baapu]

However, you need natural vision to understand human nature and diplomacy. Night vision goggles or microscopes won't help you in this. So its better that you stop farting.

thats a different discusion.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

A lot of countries are not allies of US or don't condone US foreign policy behavior. I have not seen any country behave with such rabid fervor in its hate towards US.

someone mentioned 65, 71 and all the other wars with India. No one mentions that in these Wars it was the US that helped Pakistan attain peace with India.( India didnt stop advancing its forces because it ran out of ammunition, rather it was asked by US to do a ceasefire and return to prewar border ) In all this fervor there is only one loser. It is Pakistan.

US declared Pakistan as an ally ( a landmark hallmark of diplomacy which I dont think has been done in 50 years ), Who do you think would have been most upset? Who would start to use all its resources to denegrade US in Pakistan.

it would be two countries ( Hint: neither China nor Russia is one of those two countries ) and one Domestic institution, as that declaration also asked on the country to remain a modern democratic state.

10 years after that , the situation is the utter opposite. The result would be that US will start to take a neutral stance. Not right away, US still has that law in place. So US is still treating Pakistan gently. US civilian development programs still go on. But in the mid term( 15-20 ) years , I see Pakistan as an isolated country.

Its economy is stagnant, nay , devolving.
On the economy side there is hope. In about 5 years there will be great Industrialization. But that's another story. and its doesn't have a great ending.

So .. we carry on.

I wonder what life would be like without US to bail out Pakistan in the next war.

If you know a General , ask him what life would be like. Seriously.
Oh , right , I forgot Pakistan has the bomb now.

we'll see how that works out.

go blame their cockiness and to their CIA and armed forces whose col ralphs peter came up with new maps of world in 2006 in which they had disintegated Pakistan.

Now we r victors, we we will write history and we will decide their fate! and there is nothing they can do anything abt it.

 

[baapu]

go blame their cockiness and to their CIA and armed forces whose col ralphs peter came up with new maps of world in 2006 in which they had disintegated Pakistan.

Now we r victors, we we will write history and we will decide their fate! and there is nothing they can do anything abt it.

youve been listening too much to Zaid hamid and Orya and their Iranian Masters

 

[Umair Nawaz]

youve been listening too much to Zaid hamid and Orya and their Iranian Masters

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...g-stored-in-the-boneyard-by-usa.577929/page-5

kaka g this is latest....plus that 2006 col ralph peters maps r still available on net,,,,google them/.

 

[baapu]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...g-stored-in-the-boneyard-by-usa.577929/page-5

kaka g this is latest....plus that 2006 col ralph peters maps r still available on net,,,,google them/.

"its put in storage due to suspension of military aid."
translation. "Its put in storage because it wont be given away for free"

and you cite that as a reason?

nm those nut jobs in the other thread.

"The map above is a 2006 proposed plan to redrawn the borders of the Middle East by Ralph Peters a a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel"

Do you understand who "Ralph Peters " is ? An Orya Maqbool Jan in the US.

Has aqal totally migrated out of Pakistan?

Interestingly, it ( the map )also returns Israel to pre 1967 boundary which is not cited by anyone. The map has many other features which actually reflect how things should be.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

"its put in storage due to suspension of military aid."
translation. "Its put in storage because it wont be given away for free"

and you cite that as a reason?

nm those nut jobs in the other thread.

"The map above is a 2006 proposed plan to redrawn the borders of the Middle East by Ralph Peters a a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel"

Do you understand who "Ralph Peters " is ? An Orya Maqbool Jan in the US.

Has aqal totally migrated out of Pakistan?

Interestingly, it ( the map )also returns Israel to pre 1967 boundary which is not cited by anyone. The map has many other features which actually reflect how things should be.

just google it my dear. U know u remind me of my old self...when i joined this forum back in 2012....and over the years i have learnt quit a bit. I suggest u to do same, spend more more time here reading asking questions to senior members and learnt bit more abt strategic affairs and security concerns, then u will know over time why we ''hate'' them.

 

[baapu]

just google it my dear. U know u remind me of my old self...when i joined this forum back in 2012....and over the years i have learnt quit a bit. I suggest u to do same, spend more more time here reading asking questions to senior members and learnt bit more abt strategic affairs and security concerns, then u will know over time why we ''hate'' them.

Google what ? boneyard? or suspension of US Aid?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Google what ? boneyard? or suspension of US Aid?

Why you have pro US brain, US always backstabb Pakistan in a difficult situation and that's facts, that's why Pakistanis hate USA and they are on the right side @baapu

 

[baapu]

Why you have pro US brain, US always backstabb Pakistan in a difficult situation and that's facts, that's why Pakistanis hate USA and they are on the right side @baapu

Can you tell me when was Pakistan created?
Simple nuff question isnt it?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Google what ? boneyard? or suspension of US Aid?

ralph peters maps, or watch this even mehdi hassan the anchor of Aljazeera was mentioned these maps and balkanization of pakistan in 2015 infront of Gen Asad Durrani. So they r true not conspiracy.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Can you tell me when was Pakistan created?
Simple nuff question isnt it?

47 And why you asking you such a stupid question @baapu

 

[baapu]

47 And why you asking you such a stupid question @baapu

most people would say 14th of aug 1947 right? is that right?

 

[Ultima Thule]

most people would say 14th of aug 1947 right? is that right?

yeah so what is your point @baapu

 

[baapu]

ralph peters maps, or watch this even mehdi hassan the anchor of Aljazeera was mentioned these maps and balkanization of pakistan in 2015 infront of Gen Asad Durrani. So they r true not conspiracy.

Like I said . I like those maps. Unfortunately a "Lieutenant colonel " doesn't have much say in world affairs. If he did , He wouldn't be a Lieutenant colonel would he?

yeah so what is your point @baapu

I would have said ( I want to say ) prove it.
But let me just say out right you cant. Since its not correct .

Dominion act under which Pakistan became a Dominion became a Dominion came under effect on 15th of Aug 1947 ( its actualy written in the document of law ) . Thats why the first ever anniversary was celebrated in Pakistan on 15 Aug 1948. However that was Pakistan the Dominion of Pakistan . Wasn't really a Independent state. That occurred on 29 Feb 1956 That Pakistan became a fully independent republic . So its either 15 Aug 1947 or 29th of Feb 1956. ( however the very constitution under which Pakistan became a republic was denigrated by Ayub Khan a couple o years later , but thats another story )

reason for bringing this up is , most of the "facts" Pakistanis are told are simple distortions or plain lies. Almost everything Since Ayub has been a lie, and continues to be so .