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Why Sindhis are genetically no where near Indians(Gujaratis)

Mate mate mate listen carefully am not saying we did not fight for bin qasim the great

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what am saying is before our ancestors were muslim or Hindu they were the same people be it on this side or the other side they fought together Etcetera

The same people? Kind-of, in the same sense that Europeans or black Africans are all the same people.

In terms of fighting together, sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't. Even many communities in Pakistan fought against each other.

the thing is most pakistanis need to come out of this cave saying we share nothing in common with our neighbours that is true to some extent like we share nothing in common with the south Indians or some north, east, middle bits of Indian but we do share majority of our dna with the close border areas and further into the center they are legit the same people as us we shouldn't get carried away from our real identity the puttars of sindhu you can take a dna test and it will show where 99 percent of your dna cones from it's not hard to bust this Arab bubble

Agreed, but I have to say, no Pakistani thinks they are Arab. We just know that some of us have some Arab ancestry, because that's the truth.
 
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The same people? Kind-of, in the same sense that Europeans or black Africans are all the same people.

In terms of fighting together, sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't. Even many communities in Pakistan fought against each other.



Agreed, but I have to say, no Pakistani thinks they are Arab. We just know that some of us have some Arab ancestry, because that's the truth.
To end this the argument (sorry for inconveniences) we were once sindhu hindus now muslim sindhu the majority of what were sindhu Hindus converted throughout the invasions attempted at the sindhu river be it early invasions or by the mongols who tried to besiege multan or the battle of river ravi people of sindhu began to realise that Islam was Allah grace upon them so people like malik kafur converted and continue the legacy of sindhus under the rule of the Delhi sultante allaudin khijli never forced his hindu rajput soldiers to convert they converted because they realised that Allah was indeed a higher power as he had provided them victory against the mongols who failed 5 times against the sindhu people. We are the same old sindhus
 
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To end this the argument (sorry for inconveniences) we were once sindhu hindus now muslim sindhu the majority of what were sindhu Hindus converted throughout the invasions attempted at the sindhu river be it early invasions or by the mongols who tried to besiege multan or the battle of river ravi people of sindhu began to realise that Islam was Allah grace upon them so people like malik kafur converted and continue the legacy of sindhus under the rule of the Delhi sultante allaudin khijli never forced his hindu rajput soldiers to convert they converted because they realised that Allah was indeed a higher power as he had provided them victory against the mongols who failed 5 times against the sindhu people. We are the same old sindhus

Agreed.
 
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Why do some Pakistani members think they have Arab origin you don't unfortunately we are people of the indus region we shall remain indus till the world ends no one has Arab blood in their veins inside the indus valley bongia na maro this land is sacred it has given birth to brave people matched no where in the world Islam was given to us by the grace of Allah and we should be thankful for that .our castes are reminders of our great ancestors who fought valiantly against invading foreigners and if hindus think that sindhis can only be hindus you are in great error. Castes are not part of one's religion they are part of ones identity culture irrespective of religion castes bound our civilization together if your a sindhi hindu or a muslim sindhi none of the latter can claim superiority over the other key part you are both sindhis once the protecters of the sindhu subcontinent now divided by beliefs only Allah knows best
Who said anything about Arabs

Sindhis were always Buddhist before Islam

Im showing that Sindhis are genetically near Brahui and Balochi

I never said anything about Arabs

The most Arab genes are in Gujarat India with dawood bohras not Pakistan
 
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Who said anything about Arabs

Sindhis were always Buddhist before Islam

Im showing that Sindhis are genetically near Brahui and Balochi

I never said anything about Arabs

The most Arab genes are in Gujarat India with dawood bohras not Pakistan
It was largely Hindu then Buddhism took minor hold during ashokas reign then slowly but surely it returned back to Hinduism then over large conquests by the Muslims it became a muslim stronghold with sufis from all over the world establishing their roots in sindh. for a better part of sindh it was Hindu. And the Arab thing was a rant at people who without no proof claim Arabian hood
 
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It was largely Hindu then Buddhism took minor hold during ashokas reign then slowly but surely it returned back to Hinduism then over large conquests by the Muslims it became a muslim stronghold with sufis from all over the world establishing their roots in sindh. for a better part of sindh it was Hindu. And the Arab thing was a rant at people who without no proof claim Arabian hood

Western frontier was already Budhist mostly before Invader Ashoka arrived in this part, in fact he became Budhist arriving here.
 
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Western frontier was already Budhist mostly before Invader Ashoka arrived in this part, in fact he became Budhist arriving here.
Sindh was slightly more royal hindus under selecud empire than Buddhism as Hinduism was founded near present day sindh but later through conquest buddhism did start to progress rapidly however it had reached its peak under ashoka who helped spread buddhism to sri lanka and other regions but Hinduism started to take a major footprint in converting back Buddhist followers to Hinduism. When ashoka had ransacked kalinga empire eastern Indian campaign he had felt really bad for committing atrocities and later decided to find peace by meditating and joined the religion of buddishm to find peaceful solutions to his future campaigns
 
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Sindh was slightly more royal hindus under selecud empire than Buddhism as Hinduism was founded near present day sindh but later through conquest buddhism did start to progress rapidly however it had reached its peak under ashoka who helped spread buddhism to sri lanka and other regions but Hinduism started to take a major footprint in converting back Buddhist followers to Hinduism. When ashoka had ransacked kalinga empire eastern Indian campaign he had felt really bad for committing atrocities and later decided to find peace by meditating and joined the religion of buddishm to find peaceful solutions to his future campaigns

Peace baba ji da thula, tell me which empire in history grew exponentially by peaceful means?
 
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Peace baba ji da thula, tell me which empire in history grew exponentially by peaceful means?
Baba ji peaceful expansion aman tha pegham he went as far as sri Lanka to preach his beliefs essentially became the ambassador of buddhism he succeeded in expanding buddhism that is why sri Lanka has a Buddhist population
 
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Sindh was slightly more royal hindus under selecud empire than Buddhism as Hinduism was founded near present day sindh but later through conquest buddhism did start to progress rapidly however it had reached its peak under ashoka who helped spread buddhism to sri lanka and other regions but Hinduism started to take a major footprint in converting back Buddhist followers to Hinduism. When ashoka had ransacked kalinga empire eastern Indian campaign he had felt really bad for committing atrocities and later decided to find peace by meditating and joined the religion of buddishm to find peaceful solutions to his future campaigns
No there was never any Hindus here

Agham lohana was a Buddhist

Buddhism spread from Nepal through Swat and here too

Sindh was slightly more royal hindus under selecud empire than Buddhism as Hinduism was founded near present day sindh but later through conquest buddhism did start to progress rapidly however it had reached its peak under ashoka who helped spread buddhism to sri lanka and other regions but Hinduism started to take a major footprint in converting back Buddhist followers to Hinduism. When ashoka had ransacked kalinga empire eastern Indian campaign he had felt really bad for committing atrocities and later decided to find peace by meditating and joined the religion of buddishm to find peaceful solutions to his future campaigns
Hinduism was founded at the ganges river what are you talking about

Sindh was pagan nature Indus before that similar to Kalasha and Kafirstani Nuristani

Hindus came from the south to invade

Bin Qasim and Al Ishtkari said that Hind was passed the desert behind Sindh

They're referring the Thar desert
 
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No there was never any Hindus here

Agham lohana was a Buddhist

Buddhism spread from Nepal through Swat and here too
But the early inhabitants of the indus were practising early form Hinduism which then later took real changes and with the arrival of Aryans the Vedic period began castes systems and all. from then on Hinduism did not leave sindh until the time of large conquests by Muslims Persians the Macedonians they all failed to root Hinduism from sindh until partition of India when majority of hindus left for India .it was present in extremely small numbers
 
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No there was never any Hindus here

Agham lohana was a Buddhist

Buddhism spread from Nepal through Swat and here too


Hinduism was founded at the ganges river what are you talking about

Sindh was pagan nature Indus before that similar to Kalasha and Kafirstani Nuristani

Hindus came from the south to invade

Bin Qasim and Al Ishtkari said that Hind was passed the desert behind Sindh

They're referring the Thar desert
Hinduism was founded near the indus valley it later solidified near the further plains of northern and central India. Hinduism essential birth took place near the indus river valley the Vedic period gods were essential part of early Hinduism starting to take hold their names can be found online this set the bases for Hinduism in indus valley and distance plains. only the southern part of sindh remained buddhist when buddhism began to spread to sindh the rest was mainly hindu
 
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Just wtf did I read!! I mean seriously, this is what PDF worth visiting for.

This is the frustrating bit: when I say this guy's good, many Indians read his Popular Mechanics pieces that play to the gallery and tune out. This is the real stuff, and it's worth the wait. :hitwall:
 
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Hinduism was founded near the indus valley it later solidified near the further plains of northern and central India. Hinduism essential birth took place near the indus river valley the Vedic period gods were essential part of early Hinduism starting to take hold their names can be found online this set the bases for Hinduism in indus valley and distance plains. only the southern part of sindh remained buddhist when buddhism began to spread to sindh the rest was mainly hindu
You're wrong I suggest you read this book by

Swapam Kumar Biswas in his 1999 book said that the locals were practicing Kasapa Buddha

He claimed that Indra the brahmin with his rapist friends came into the Indus Valley and forced the locals to practice the caste based Vedic ways

The Vedic period is a lie and a invasion on the Indus Valley from the south
But the early inhabitants of the indus were practising early form Hinduism which then later took real changes and with the arrival of Aryans the Vedic period began castes systems and all. from then on Hinduism did not leave sindh until the time of large conquests by Muslims Persians the Macedonians they all failed to root Hinduism from sindh until partition of India when majority of hindus left for India .it was present in extremely small numbers

100% wrong

Persians never tried to root out

Indus Valley practices were straight nature and fertility where bodhi trees were found

The Kalash practice and Ghandara teachings were connected with Sindh

Indra the leader of the Vedic Brahmins from the south brought that toxic Hinduism from the ganges river
 
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