Why Sanskrit has strong links to European languages and what it learnt in India

[Kailash Kumar]

Excellent.

There was a reason why I asked you that question.

The reason is that i found the hard way that to understand and to get the nuances of this and similar theories - conjectures that are under academic consideration but have not yet been 'proved', in the physical sciences sense or the social sciences sense - one has to understand those who oppose them and have alternative, hostile theories.

Of late, I have been studying revisionist views of these theories, so that I could grasp what makes people oppose them, and in what way they oppose them.

For instance, Hindutvavadis dispute the theory that has been propounded above. They derisively call it the Aryan Invasion Theory, referring to the original concept that had the Aryans imitating the Greeks, the Germanic tribes and the Anglo-Saxons vis-a-vis Britain. In its place, they strongly advocate the Out of India theory.

Unless we understand their point of view, it is extremely difficult to understand, with all its nuances, this point of view that you have presented.

I see what you mean.

I have found an older article / study (published in Science, september 2019) which I posted a number of months ago and that is related to the original post and what you said. It might be of interest to you.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/long...populations-in-south-and-central-asia.634551/

 

[Joe Shearer]

I see what you mean.

I have found an older article / study (published in Science, september 2019) which I posted a number of months ago and that is related to the original post and what you said. It might be of interest to you.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/long...populations-in-south-and-central-asia.634551/

Oh my dear fellow, this is that famous article on the consequences of the Rakhigarhi genetic discoveries.

Vagheesh Narasimhan is on the David Reich side of the controversy (I misquoted him as being on the slimy side in a post on PDF earlier). They say that these findings show that there is no steppe-dweller genetic material in Indus Valley inhabitants, and the steppe-dweller genetic material therefore came in later. In other words there was a kind of incursion - probably NOT an invasion - of steppe-dwellers just a couple of centuries after the last days of a declining Indus civilisation.

You will find in the list of authors the names Shinde and Thangaraj right at the end. These are the two who published separately, and totally contradicted their endorsement of the finding that this paper outlined. It cannot have been for any good reason.

How interesting that you should have hit upon one of the most decisive scientific discoveries of the kind.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

No other language in South Asia retained Sanskrit influence than Sinhalese. Maybe we are the true successor to Sanskrit.

Good to know that the Southernmost tip of subcontinent (if we neglect Maldives and Andaman-Nicobar & Lakshwadweep islands) has significant Sanskrit influence. Tell more. Post Sinhalese alphabets. I can Google. Then also you post.

- PRTP GWD

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Unless we understand their point of view, it is extremely difficult to understand, with all its nuances, this point of view that you have presented.

Soooo you're saying, to understand how a round wheel works, we need to understand how a square one doesn't work?

Wow. I'm enlightened.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

controversy

Yes Joe..

It's a "controversy".

We simply must must must entertain the feasibility of "out of India" to allow us to better understand the "controversy".

 

[HalfMoon]

No other language in South Asia retained Sanskrit influence than Sinhalese. Maybe we are the true successor to Sanskrit.

Sanskrit is an archaic idiotic useless language. The best language in south asia is Urdu.

No other South Asian language has the grace of Urdu.

This is the reason why Bollywood movies are made in Urdu not Sanskrit.

 

[Kailash Kumar]

Sanskrit is an archaic idiotic useless language. The best language in south asia is Urdu.

No other South Asian language has the grace of Urdu.

This is the reason why Bollywood movies are made in Urdu not Sanskrit.

You are not making any sense.

Because if Urdu is a language that has grace, then it should not be used for Bollywood movies which are anything but graceful.

 

[Uguduwa]

Sanskrit is an archaic idiotic useless language. The best language in south asia is Urdu.

No other South Asian language has the grace of Urdu.

This is the reason why Bollywood movies are made in Urdu not Sanskrit.

nah

 

[HalfMoon]

You are not making any sense.

Because if Urdu is a language that has grace, then it should not be used for Bollywood movies which are anything but graceful.

Okay try making this song in sanskrit and see the results.

 

[Kailash Kumar]

Okay try making this song in sanskrit and see the results.

You do not seem to understand what I meant.

Let me repeat it in another way.

If Urdu is the best language in South Asia, why is it still used for the vulgar Bollywood movies of today?

 

[HalfMoon]

You do not seem to understand what I meant.

Let me repeat it in another way.

If Urdu is the best language in South Asia, why is it still used for the vulgar Bollywood movies of today?

LoL

Urdu is the zubaan not heroines body parts.

 

[Kailash Kumar]

LoL

Urdu is the zubaan not heroines body parts.

I know.

But what is India's soft power in the world?

Bollywood.

And what would you say of that when Urdu is used for a vulgar Bollywood film, the consequence of that will be that it is associated with vulgarity?

Do you think that around the world people will then think of Urdu as a language used by kings or by people with no morals?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Good to know that the Southernmost tip of subcontinent (if we neglect Maldives and Andaman-Nicobar & Lakshwadweep islands) has significant Sanskrit influence. Tell more. Post Sinhalese alphabets. I can Google. Then also you post.

- PRTP GWD

The theory is that the Sinhala are migrants from north India. In reality there may have been a few key families who brought the language across. Whatever the precise mechanism - Sinhala legend talks about a prince who went there from Bengal - after the Aryan languages of the Konkan in the west, and Odiya in the east, there are only Dravidian languages, Telugu and Kannada on the dividing line, Tulu, Tamil and Malayalam deeper down south. That is why it is disconcerting to find another Aryan language right next to Tamil (the northern part of Sri Lanka was, of course, Tamil, the home of the Jaffna Tamils).

 

[Joe Shearer]

Soooo you're saying, to understand how a round wheel works, we need to understand how a square one doesn't work?

Wow. I'm enlightened.

LOL.

No, you are not. You are, as usual, being sarcastic without understanding the issues. The issue is not to understand how a square one doesn't work, it is to understand why some people doggedly insist that a square wheel makes sense. Without understanding them, one cannot controvert them.

But you, of course, in your tireless quest to find fault, land up standing on your head on many occasions, finding it odd that everything seems upside down.

You, O enlightened one, have been on board for a year and a bit. I have been coping with the square wheels for a decade now.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes Joe..

It's a "controversy".

We simply must must must entertain the feasibility of "out of India" to allow us to better understand the "controversy".

Little Jack Horner......

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