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Why Pakistan accuses Taliban of doing what it has been doing to India?

Kashmir is Pakistan
Kashmir was Pakistan
Kashmir will remain Pakistan - culturally, genetically, religiously
Yes, you can say kashmir highway... And change the name next year every year as you did recently.

But, in the real... Kashmir was and will always with india till the last of india and pakistan present in earth...

no one has capability and power in the world- jo alag kar sake.
 
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Beyond propaganda Indians HATE each other


Kashmiri despise Hindu as much as we do and the toxic hate filled communal daily shitstorm inside India reaffirms that everyday


These Indians are delusional
 
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Yes, you can say kashmir highway... And change the name next year every year as you did recently.

But, in the real... Kashmir was and will always with india till the last of india and pakistan present in earth...

no one has capability and power in the world- jo alag kar sake.
Indian occupiers will never be at peace in Kashmir. Till the day of reckoning Kashmir will be a graveyard for armed and unarmed Indian occupiers.
 
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Earlier this week in Pakistan, something strange happened. The Pakistan Army formally blamed its erstwhile friend and ally, the Afghan Taliban, for abetting terror attacks inside Pakistan by hosting terrorist sanctuaries, which it said was impacting the “security of Pakistan”.

Sounds familiar? Is the penny dropping in Rawalpindi, the headquarters of the Pakistani military establishment and its infamous intelligence services, the ISI? Are the chickens, to relocate an English proverb in a hot, subcontinental locale, coming home to roost?

For decades, India has been accusing Pakistan of doing the exact same thing. Which is, controlling the terror tap by hosting terrorist safe havens on its territory and infiltrating them into India — bleeding India “with a thousand cuts.”
Much before the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which Pakistan has never acknowledged leave alone apologized for, long before the 2001 Agra talks which broke down because of then Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf’s position on Kashmir, and even before the 1999 Kargil conflict, Pakistan has used terror as an instrument of state policy towards India.

Pakistan’s refusal to shut down its safe havens for terrorists, its belief that it could turn the tap on and off for “good” and “bad” terrorists — the good ones, presumably, were those targetting India, and the bad ones who turned the target inwards — is now coming to haunt it.

It’s cruel, perhaps, to quote the Bible here — you reap what you sow. And when you sow the whirlwind, you reap famine and floods and disaster every season. No one should wish that on anyone, leave alone 200 million people who live next door.

It’s not the people’s fault, of course. They try their best, electing who they do. But the Pakistan military and ISI are so powerful that they will not just personally destroy you if you refuse to follow orders, but have perverted an entire nation for the last 75 years because they want to remain in charge. Just ask Nawaz Sharif, living in exile for the second time in his life — at least he’s in balmy London this time, not in godforsaken Attock jail to which he was sent after the 1999 coup by Musharraf.

Certainly, Pakistan is nervous. On the one hand, the Pakistani economy is barely holding on for dear life with a $3 billion tranche from the IMF, and on the other, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is demanding the application of Sharia law in territories bordering Afghanistan.

Neglecting neighbourly duties

Back to the Pakistan army’s hand-wringing this past week about the Taliban government in Kabul. At the 258th meeting of all the corps commanders, which was presided over by Pakistan Army chief General Asim Munir, the detailed briefing on the security situation pointed a direct finger at the Taliban government’s inability to shut down the TTP.


Two days prior, Pakistani defence minister Khwaja Asif had scolded Afghanistan for “neglecting its duties as a neighbourly and fraternal country.” He added, with some anger, that Pakistan had provided refuge to several million Afghans for the last 40 years.

The irony, of course, is that when the Taliban walked into Kabul on 15 August 2021, the Pakistani military clapped the loudest — behind closed doors of course. Having supported the Taliban against the Americans and against elected governments in Afghanistan for the previous 20 years, Rawalpindi believed this was their moment.

For decades they had talked about the concept of “strategic depth” in Afghanistan — at last, their time had come. Faiz Hameed, the former ISI chief, was so cocky in his behaviour that he was photographed sipping a cup of tea in full public view at the entrance to the Kabul Serena hotel, instead of meeting the Taliban behind closed doors.

According to Dawn, quoting, “the banned TTP continues to enjoy safe havens and managed to get its hands on sophisticated weapons as it operates freely in Afghanistan,” and it was the mastermind of a terror attack on a military garrison in Zhob, Baluchistan, in which 9 soldiers and one civilian were killed. The TTP militants had used M-16 rifles, carried night-vision equipment and wore uniforms commonly used by the US military in the Zhob attack, Dawn reported.

It is true that TTP militants are using sophisticated military gear left behind by US soldiers. Considering the TTP and Afghan Taliban are very close, it’s more than likely that they are sharing the loot.

Taliban refutes

Certainly, no one in their wildest dreams in Rawalpindi would have thought that their blood brothers, the Afghan Taliban, were going to do them what they have been doing to India for some time. It was not supposed to turn out this way.

But here’s another of those delicious ironies that make foreign policy reporting worthwhile. Just like Pakistan routinely rejects all accusations that India makes about its policy of state-sponsored infiltration, Afghanistan is now doing exactly the same.

“We do not allow them (TTP) to live and operate in Afghanistan. We have faced consequences of wars and do not want others to suffer…This is a problem, but it is also the responsibility of the other side (Pakistan) to find a solution,” Taliban spokesperson Zabiullah Mujahid told Dawn.

Afghan upon Afghan upon Afghan will tell you in Kabul and elsewhere that the “Pakistanis” have “destroyed us”, that they have refused to allow peace and stability in Afghanistan. That they never allowed the Americans to stabilise the country, or let India become the regional market towards which the rest of the region gravitated.

As the Taliban settle down to rule — despite no international recognition of their status — and take on the traits of the Afghans they once despised, they are beginning to realise what the Pakistani military establishment is capable of, which is to fully control Afghanistan. Which self-respecting nation is going to allow that?

And as relations between the Taliban government in Kabul and Rawalpindi worsen, here’s the other question: What does this do to ties between Delhi and Kabul?


What pajeet chutiyays living in the Gau mootarr and gobar laced hindutva reality ought to know is that what pajeets perceive Pakistan doing to India, India has been doing to Pakistan longer, more prolifically and at a grander scale.
 
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Baap ka tu wait kar raha hai. Apni maan ko doosron ki maan tu keh raha hai. Baap aur maan donon main confused

Typical r@ndi khandan ki product wali harkatain. Tum sarai r@ndi k bachai aik jaisai hotai ho. Na baap ka pata na maan ka :lol:

I hope tune Teri ammi ko bol dia hai ke mere baap ka wait na kare
Aur apni baaji ko bhej dena jaldi
Kabul jaana hai
 
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It will stay that way till the flag of tawheed flys in Dehli once again.
You should have said that in your first post. I wouldn’t have tried to reason with you and wasted time.

Flag pole is ready with a band to play when flag is hoisted. Good luck with the flag hoisting in Delhi.

The thread started with an article for some self introspection for our friends from Pakskatn. For them to analyse if they have gone wrong somewhere while dealing with the Afghan problem.

Here we are with quite a majority chanting Kashmir banega………

Some people never learn from their mistakes.
 
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Af-Pak relations are not comparable with Indo-Pak relations. Af-Pak issues represent sibling rivalry in the true form of the term as proven by history.
Sibling rivalry results is harmless banter and leg pulling. Sibling fighting is like shadow fighting with no hurt involved. This isn’t sibling rivalry. This is an adversary in making if Paksiatn doesn’t mend it’s ways and stops treating Afghan soil just as an extension of it’s own. Guns are already out in this rivalry. Just that different size bullets come out of an AK 47 an an artillery gun. Both are meant to kill. Brushing it under the carpet wouldn’t help either.

The people who have migrated and depended deeply on Pakistan also have developed quite a lot of anti-Paksiatn stance. They are called namak haram by a lot of people here. Ever wondered why they behave that way? Because they perceive Paksiatn as the trouble createer that led to all the issues.
 
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India has been doing to Pakistan longer, more prolifically and at a grander scale.
So Pakistan is the victim of a conspiracy by calling it a perpetrator while it is a victim?

It appears that the collective psyche of Paksitan thrives on concept of conspiracies. They think that there are conspiracies to malign them while they have such good nature and intentions. They are such good natured people but the evil world shows them as demons. I am sure the majority are very good, but they don’t make policies.

Policy making has always been done by short sighted rulers with very limited scope of allowing any dissenting voices.

Ask afghans about Paksiatnis and they will tell a different story. The mistrust in them is due to unnecessary meddling of your nation in their affairs leading to many issues.

It was for nothing that at one time, Paksiatn was called an exporter of extremism. Your rulers openly propagated and exported people who were given training to disrupt peace in the neighbouring countries. Zia, Musharraf, Benazir and IK have openly accepted this fact. Rest of the nation hasn’t come around, to accept this failure in policy.

Request to keep gobar and mutr out of discussion. If you have no point to make then keeping quiet is better and saner option.
 
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Indians blaming Pakistan is rich when they were tooth and nail involved with training Mukhti Bahini and sending them to East Pakistan.

Do you guys even retrospect?
 
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Sibling rivalry results is harmless banter and leg pulling. Sibling fighting is like shadow fighting with no hurt involved. This isn’t sibling rivalry. This is an adversary in making if Paksiatn doesn’t mend it’s ways and stops treating Afghan soil just as an extension of it’s own. Guns are already out in this rivalry. Just that different size bullets come out of an AK 47 an an artillery gun. Both are meant to kill. Brushing it under the carpet wouldn’t help either.

The people who have migrated and depended deeply on Pakistan also have developed quite a lot of anti-Paksiatn stance. They are called namak haram by a lot of people here. Ever wondered why they behave that way? Because they perceive Paksiatn as the trouble createer that led to all the issues.

Pakistan has always put brotherly Afghanistan as an extension of her own security. Siblings fight and bully each other all the time, it's all just a part of growing up together.

Indo-Pak affairs are governed by visceral hatred which far exceeds human capacity.
 
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Pakistan has always put brotherly Afghanistan as an extension of her own security.
Did they ask for it? Did they want to be an extension of your security planning. It appears that this concept of considering them as part of your security, has caused all the issues.

Also calling the conflict akin to sibling rivalry is flawed. Living beings are siblings, not nations. Nations can be allies, opponents or neutral to some extent. Nations with shared borders are most likely, either allies or opponents.

Indopak and Afpak have different kinds of thorns that have soured the relationship. Both are confrontational. A weak Afghan can be only this much.
The mere idea was introspection. No one is analysing Indo-Pak here. It would take much more to resolve.

Is Paksiatn ready to do it, rather then just blaming the current Afghan regime?
 
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I hope tune Teri ammi ko bol dia hai ke mere baap ka wait na kare
Aur apni baaji ko bhej dena jaldi
Kabul jaana hai

Haan haan samajh gaye Teri maan sub ki maan aur baap tera hai nahi. Tu wait kar raha hai us ka

Tu naya nahi. Sarai tujh jaisai r@ndi ki paidawar aisai hi hotai hain
 
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Haan haan samajh gaye Teri maan sub ki maan aur baap tera hai nahi. Tu wait kar raha hai us ka

Tu naya nahi. Sarai tujh jaisai r@ndi ki paidawar aisai hi hotai hain
Ammi ko bola ke nahi?
Heera Mandi me network nahi hai kya? Ya randiyo ke paas phone nahi hai Waha?

Aur Teri baji kab ayegi?
Jaldi kar. 1 kg aata milega tujhe :lol:
 
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Ammi ko bola ke nahi?
Heera Mandi me network nahi hai kya? Ya randiyo ke paas phone nahi hai Waha?

Aur Teri baji kab ayegi?
Jaldi kar. 1 kg aata milega tujhe :lol:

Chal ab bakwas nahi kar. Tera scene samajh main aa gaya hai sub ko

Teri maan sub ki maan. Baap ka tu wait kar raha hai aur teri baji Kabul gayi hoyi hai

Terai jaisi r@ndi families main aisa hi hota hai. Nothing new. Tu manage kar ab
 
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