Why Kalam Represents India, And Aurangzeb Does Not

[Donatello]

Right, stop in conversing in English too, stop using all European invented amenities too; what about destroying Taj Mahal and other Mughal structures through which Bharat earns millions from the tourists? why not dig up the railway lines that British laid? Why not raze to ground the Schools and Hospitals that were erected by British? somebody? Afghans, Mughals and British taught Bhartis how to live with civility otherwise what they were before? Brothers inter-marrying sisters to protect 'rajwad'; women burnt alive together with deceased husbands; humans divided into horrible caste system and forced to lived under so-called high-caste and good for nothing priests; innocent girls forced to work as daasis in temples and 'serving' priests. Bharatis are a bunch of hypocrites irrespective of whether they are Hindutvawadi terrorists or so-called seculars. They cant provide toilets to their people but hell-bent on changing the name of roads. As if all other problems of Bharat are solved, world's largest slums are gone, female feticide is controlled, AIDS epidemic is all but wiped out, dowry -related burnings are stopped...

Haha, they would never rid of Taj Mahal, Red Fort or any of the Sufi establishments, because then what will they have to show for Incredible India? People defecating in the open? The fact that there hasn't been any single world beating innovation out of India since 1947.

 

[thesolar65]

@Manindra

Nice argument.
By any chance are/were you a law student?

 

[Manindra]

@Manindra

Nice argument.
By any chance are/were you a law student?

Management student cum CA internship.

 

[Parul]

Err - how is renaming a road's name is destruction of Islamic History?

Is Dr. Kalam less Pious Muslim then him?

By the way, the upcoming generations of Pakistani's will consider likes of OBL, Mullah Umar, Bagdai etc as true Hero of Muslims like barbarian like Aurangzeb is your Hero. History repeats itself.

My cousins in Lucknow have complained about this killing of Islamic culture and history. Do note that history is always viewed with a lens of religion. For muslims Aurangzeb will always be a hero despite being a villain for Hindus who do not pride the fact that he was part of the subcontinents history. This is clear destruction of Islamic heritage under modi and gang.

The best idea is to preserve all culture whether muslim or hindu. This will be seen by the muslims as destruction of the narrative of their rule over the subcontinent. India has been doing this constantly. Lucknowis have complained that even in museums boards of passed muslim figures have been replaced with hindutva version-even their names have been changed.

Before crying about preserving Culture, shall I remind you of Historical Monuments, Places of Hindus-Sikhs and it's plight in Islamic Republic of Pakistan?

For ex: Temple-Gurdwara Converted in Mosques. You are giving references of your cousins. However, I've been to Islamic Republic of Pakistan and seen the plight of Sikhs and Hindu culture with my bare eyes.I can post 1000's of pic and in return, you'll ran from thread.

Practice what you preach.

Have you preserved any? #Hypocrisy.

 

[Manindra]

Haha, they would never rid of Taj Mahal, Red Fort or any of the Sufi establishments,

Since when these buildings become Sufi ?
Well Sufi despite majority in Pakistan harassed by Deobandis & Wahabis, Take care.
What about our old monument which are destroyed ?

because then what will they have to show for Incredible India?

There are enough thing which world can inspire from India.

People defecating in the open?

Before commenting , do you bother Pakistan also have same problem ?

The fact that there hasn't been any single world beating innovation out of India since 1947.

What is PHWR, Mangalyaan but what your's (Islamic Terrorism does not count)

 

[Donatello]

There are enough thing which world can inspire from India.

Like what? TATA NANO?

 

[Manindra]

Like what? TATA NANO?

Yes, but what you have for rival

 

[VCheng]

India too has to counter the hate narrative contained within post-Quranic Islam with a counter narrative –

@levina A question: What is this "post-Quranic Islam" being mentioned? Wasn't all Islam practiced only after the revelation of the Quran, or am I missing something here, since there is no pre-Quran Islam by definition?

 

[dray]

And yet both will remain part of its history. You see, one cannot pick and choose with history. It is all an indivisible whole, the good, the bad and the ugly alike.

Nobody is removing Aurangzeb from the history, he remains there as a tyrant, but we should be clear about who is honourable, and who is not. Aurangzeb doesn't deserve honour in this part of the world.

Question is, have Bhartis toilets needs met? world's largest slums converted into places livable for humans? world's largest population living under poverty has been rescued? female infanticide is stopped? dowry -related burning of newly wed brides is addressed? travel advisory pertaining to rampant rape cases is reversed? What difference renaming a road is going to make? any difference? Like I said previously, these Bhartis are a bunch of hypocrite. They ban cow slaughter, gau maata, and leave the mataa jee to forage on roadside garbage. In Bharat, beef (not only of cow) is not allowed by Hindutvawadi Modi and his likes are dying to bed with mataa jee eaters such as US, Europe, Gulf.

Stop off-topic ranting please.

I don't like the name changed. Not because I am secular. But because history should be preserved as we received it. There will be plenty of lessons to future generations about our heroes and villains. A new and better road should be named after Kalam.

History is preserved in history books, roads are named after heroes to honour them, and Aurangzeb was not a hero, Dr. Kalam was.

 

[Levina]

You mean this?

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[Indus Falcon]

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SO are you a civil engineer or you work for an airline in the training dept?

Question is, have Bhartis toilets needs met? world's largest slums converted into places livable for humans? world's largest population living under poverty has been rescued? female infanticide is stopped? dowry -related burning of newly wed brides is addressed? travel advisory pertaining to rampant rape cases is reversed? What difference renaming a road is going to make? any difference? Like I said previously, these Bhartis are a bunch of hypocrite. They ban cow slaughter, gau maata, and leave the mataa jee to forage on roadside garbage. In Bharat, beef (not only of cow) is not allowed by Hindutvawadi Modi and his likes are dying to bed with mataa jee eaters such as US, Europe, Gulf.

You mean this? Slum Capital of the world?

 

[Manindra]

SO are you a civil engineer or you work for an airline in the training dept?



You mean this? Slum Capital of the world?

pakistani slums and toilets?

slums in lahore

slums in islamabad

At least 28 people living in the slums of Landhi and Korangi towns were hospitalised with diarrhea, vomiting and abdominal pain

no water to wash their shit where 5 rivers flow

PESHAWAR, Feb. 25, 2015 - Pakistani children collect garbage from a dirty water canal on the outskirts of northwest Pakistan's Peshawar, Feb. 25, 2015. (Xinhua/Umar Qayyum)

 

[Manindra]

SO are you a civil engineer or you work for an airline in the training dept?



You mean this? Slum Capital of the world?

karachi slum

islamabad

lahore

 

[Manindra]

SO are you a civil engineer or you work for an airline in the training dept?



You mean this? Slum Capital of the world?

Pakistan is a paradise
Slum dwellers in Pakistani Hyderabad transform discarded food in cooking oil

do you find a toilet in this slum in pakistan

lahore slums

 

[VCheng]

Is this the Senior's Section or am I lost?