Dubious
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The point is simple. Like abortion, or the pill, or female condoms, or an IUCD, this is a woman only issue.
We have zero standing on it.
I am sorry if you are naive enough to believe that debating (or proselytizing) this over 50 or 100 pages is going to make a difference one way or the other.
Those on forums lie these in our parts of the world (and this is for Audio) represent the top 5% of our societies. I do not know whether that should make us happy or sad.
My point is, we are those who have had the benefit and luxury of a good education.
So 99% of us will anyways have a certain view on this. And the remaining 1%, in spite of being educated, having an opposing view, are not going to change.
Change of this nature in an Indian/Pakistani setting is driven not by men but by the women of the household. Because 9 times out of 10, a hijabi will force her daughter or daughter-in-law to be one as well.
So to affect a change, let the women speak and get a word in edgewise please.
Yup, when a woman like me speaks for it...You lot attack her viciously! Saying everything from shes forcing it on others to how silly she sounds saying that men is an uncontrollable animal and I recall on 1 thread someone claimed that because their friend went to a nude beach soo often he became (what he described can only be said as) impotent!
So, basically until a woman says yes nude beaches are a must in every country because Mr. impotent's friend here claims the more skin you see the more controllable you become and vice versa...this thread seems to continue...
Sorry for the harsh language but ANYONE studying biology knows that stimulus is very important in arousal and sight is a stimulus which can't be ignored sooo easily! ANYONE claiming they feel nothing at nude beaches is OVER EXAGGERATING!
Be it Hollywood or Bollywood, be it Europe or Asia, no nude woman is "SAFE"...
In the west because the laws are STRICT AND IMPLEMENTED people do not behave as an animal...
But if Muslims talk about their STRICT LAW AND WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT, it somehow becomes barbaric?
Why the double standards? I mean it is the LAW of the country stopping a crime and it is RIGHT but LAW of GOD is wrong?
You wrote this:
Interestingly every religious book (Q*r*n in particular) says that it is very simple, written for everybody, easy to understand, has no other meaning that will be understood by everybody and those who will try to explain and twist its meaning are representative of Satan, But in every religion the so called scholars try to manipulate its meaning and gives lengthy, twisted meaning of a simple paragraph, and we are told that they are true follower of god so we should trust them. This is the irony of religious world. Every religion says that god is one and they preach only peace, but once you follow their beautiful thoughts, they start you dictating, no no, do it this way, prey like this , behave like this, and everybody who dont prey are behave as we are telling, is anti god and should be killed.
While quoting this:
This I call mockery..Let me look back at why I said you were talking out of context
I hope all this was pure curiosity...
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/205983-why-my-hijab-your-problem-57.html#ixzz26AEzkZHm
Are they related?