In Muslim history, it's been called Palestine after disintegration of Israel some 3000 years ago. For past 1500 years Muslim lived in Palestine. All you European Jews from German ghettos started settling in Palestine and now you manipulate the history. Cmon.. in from Brooklyn dude! I know what Jews are about. A Jew can be born in Brooklyn and he becomes a citizen of Israel right away. Then sent to Israel, where they grab the land from Palestinians saying it belonged to them some 3000 years ago. Who you bullshitting. Not me!!
It was called Palestine because of the Romans who changed the name to "Provincia Palaestina" to punish the Jews 1900 years ago.It was Emperor Hadrian who did it.
Muslims conquered the land of Israel while the Jews were still there and still claim this land.
I'm not European, I've never been to Europe, nor to anyone in my family.
Of course every Jew can be an Israeli citizen, Israel is a state for the Jews.
95-99% of those who call themselves "Palestinians" today immigrated here in the 19th and 20th centuries.
They claimed that they were a "Palestinian people" only in 1964.
And they claimed that Palestine was only Israel (without Judea, Samaria and Gaza)in 1964.
Only in 1968 they claimed that Judea, Samaria and Gaza are also Palestine (somehow they were remembered only after Israel ruled there).
You see this is where I get the feeling that Jews have done a great job of making their identity as a "people" unique from everyone else. I've seen my white friends whose religion they practice (that being Judaism) say they're white and when it's convenient for them they are Jews. Also if the Jewish bible tells modern day persons who are Jews that the land of Israel belongs to them, than a book (a religious book) is giving a group of "people" the right to sovereign ownership over land. Or something.
So what Mountain Jew is saying is that since there has been a "constant" presence of Jews in Israel than that means all Israel is for Jews? But didn't Israelites (who for awhile didn't refer to themselves and Jews) ...... ugh... what a racket...
C130, you're an American like me (red blooded patriot, at least I presume) do you honestly think us engaging with Middle Eastern countries given the constant turmoil and adverse effects we've suffered as a nation, is it still worth it?
We are not a nation like all nations, it is all our uniqueness
You do not understand because you look at us with Western eyes.
The Israelite did not call themselves Jews because the concept of Jews was invented by other nations, and we began to adopt it from the Persian period.
What I am saying is that we own the Land of Israel
Others can claim ownership, but they need to inherit the land, and as long as we exist it will not happen
So what is Benjamin Nentanyahu then? His rhetoric just by virtue of what it is comes off as right-wing.. Am I wrong?
He is a moderate right, sometimes he moves to the left and returns