Why is India not interested in talks with Pakistan?

[Bang Galore]

A delusion India is living in they thought there was no need to talk but modi has realized they need to,issues like firing at LOC,trade etc,etc need to be dealt with.Thank god India has woken up ,

The point made by Aakar Patel (& he is no supporter of Modi) is a good one. Other than the necessity of talks to handle low level incidents & keep relationships at a basic courtesy level, there is very little else that these talks can achieve. What does Pakistan bring to the table except its demands? What can be the expectation from any such talks? Why do Pakistanis think that India might offer them something? On what? And why? Other than trade & maybe Sir Creek, what can realistically find a common ground? Siachen? Why would India oblige? What is Pakistan's offer that might interest India? If Pakistan wants a give & take approach, what is it that Pakistan is willing to give that might interest India? What do they expect in return?

 

[SrNair]

The point made by Aakar Patel (& he is no supporter of Modi) is a good one. Other than the necessity of talks to handle low level incidents & keep relationships at a basic courtesy level, there is very little else that these talks can achieve. What does Pakistan bring to the table except its demands? What can be the expectation from any such talks? Why do Pakistanis think that India might offer them something? On what? And why? Other than trade & maybe Sir Creek, what can realistically find a common ground? Siachen? Why would India oblige? What is Pakistan's offer that might interest India? If Pakistan wants a give & take approach, what is it that Pakistan is willing to give that might interest India? What do they expect in return?

Pakistan seeks the same treatment that they got in 70s ,80s abd 90s with us.They are so blind that they cant see the difference between two nations national power gap.
Except those age old demands they dont have anything to offer.Why should we waste our time with them ?
We dont need their land and we wont give a single inch of our land to them.

 

[timetravel]

Current talks will have no outcome. There will never be outcome of any talks, until Pakistan accepts that it cannot break India and stops seeking revenge for 71. Only two outcomes in next twenty years:

1) Pakistan after some more violent period/internal struggle will give up militancy finally, and there will be new peace accords between India and Pakistan.
2) Pakistan and India will have another violent/brutal war. The war will result in elimination of PA/ISI/Pak Nukes. There would be no more Pakistan in future.

this is not my wishlist, but my actual belief and actual practical prediction of the scenario.

 

[SamantK]

They are direct threats to YOUR country. They are the single largest threat to india, even modi's predecessor admitted that. So forget Pakistan we are busy fighting against other enemies right now, no need to deliberately provoke Pakistan when its busy fighting a very complex insurgency

They are and no one said its not. However, that does not mean we forget the other threats to our country, they have to be dealt simultaneously.

Pakistan should come to a position so that India can forget it. While you are fighting other enemies now you fail/ignore to fight with our enemies holed deep in your country which are a bigger threat to your country than ours cause they are our enemies too.

This selective fight ignoring the larger picture has bitten off Pakistan before and will do it again if not discontinued.

 

[WAJsal]

The point made by Aakar Patel (& he is no supporter of Modi) is a good one. Other than the necessity of talks to handle low level incidents & keep relationships at a basic courtesy level, there is very little else that these talks can achieve. What does Pakistan bring to the table except its demands? What can be the expectation from any such talks? Why do Pakistanis think that India might offer them something? On what? And why? Other than trade & maybe Sir Creek, what can realistically find a common ground? Siachen? Why would India oblige? What is Pakistan's offer that might interest India? If Pakistan wants a give & take approach, what is it that Pakistan is willing to give that might interest India? What do they expect in return?

You talk as if India is a soopa powa and don't need no trade from anyone and is self sufficient.Buddy,my point is simple,India and Pakistan should resolve whatever is going on in our borders.The only way to achieve such a thing is by holding talks.And how can one say the Pakistan doesn't have anything to offer,we might not have much but we do have enough.Trade between Pakistan and India should be boosted,there is just so much that can be done through corporation. You might have thought that i was pointing at issues such as Kashmir and etc etc .

 

[shree835]

You talk as if India is a soopa powa and don't need no trade from anyone and is self sufficient.Buddy,my point is simple,India and Pakistan should resolve whatever is going on in our borders.The only way to achieve such a thing is by holding talks.And how can one say the Pakistan doesn't have anything to offer,we might not have much but we do have enough.Trade between Pakistan and India should be boosted,there is just so much that can be done through corporation. You might have thought that i was pointing at issues such as Kashmir and etc etc .

No Chicha...you are wrong here... We want trade with whole world except pakistan.... Might be we are not good... But we are far far better then pakistan.... You are not at all in competition in any field except producing terrorist.

 

[Bang Galore]

You talk as if India is a soopa powa and don't need no trade from anyone and is self sufficient.Buddy,my point is simple,India and Pakistan should resolve whatever is going on in our borders.The only way to achieve such a thing is by holding talks.And how can one say the Pakistan doesn't have anything to offer,we might not have much but we do have enough.Trade between Pakistan and India should be boosted,there is just so much that can be done through corporation. You might have thought that i was pointing at issues such as Kashmir and etc etc .

I wasn't referring to trade , more what the article referred to. Trade is excellent but very little needs to be discussed except to offer India MFN status. Will happen whenever Pakistan decides. the problem is that there are many in Pakistan who believe that offering India MFN status would entail India making concessions on other matters (apart from trade). That won't happen. i referred to issues like Siachen & Sir Creek where I pointed out that one was possible whenever Pakistan decided & the other was not. No amount of talks will change that.

Please feel free to make your argument about what Pakistan brings to the table & what it wants as an exchange. Happy to debate you.

 

[WAJsal]

I wasn't referring to trade , more what the article referred to. Trade is excellent but very little needs to be discussed except to offer India MFN status. Will happen whenever Pakistan decides. the problem is that there are many in Pakistan who believe that offering India MFN status would entail India making concessions on other matters (apart from trade). That won't happen. i referred to issues like Siachen & Sir Creek where I pointed out that one was possible whenever Pakistan decided & the other was not. No amount of talks will change that.

Please feel free to make your argument about what Pakistan brings to the table & what it wants as an exchange. Happy to debate you.

Sir,let's make one thing clear that we wont accept any thing such as these comments.

No Chicha...you are wrong here... We want trade with whole world except pakistan.... Might be we are not good... But we are far far better then pakistan.... You are not at all in competition in any field except producing terrorist.

I have always felt due to Kashmir issue ,Pakistan makes a stupid mistake and let's it get in way of other things ,such as trade,which is something i hated and will hate.I think interaction between the people of the two countries can be made better and should be,we should do whatever possible to eradicate hatred on the ground level.One thing i have noticed is that getting a visa to India or the other way around is so though that at times our players(Kabbadi players,athletes, etc,etc) have to pay the price.
Pakistan can do one thing which will benefit it a lot,allow India to trade with Afghanistan and Iran through easier,safer ad cheaper route.I hate it when Political issues come in way of Trade between the countries.Pakistan earns a lot of foreign exchange through exports of rice and cotton and many things.I think there is enough to offer.

 

[Bang Galore]

I have always felt due to Kashmir issue ,Pakistan makes a stupid mistake and let's it get in way of other things ,such as trade,which is something i hated and will hate.I think interaction between the people of the two countries can be made better and should be,we should do whatever possible to eradicate hatred on the ground level.One thing i have noticed is that getting a visa to India or the other way around is so though that at times our players(Kabbadi players,athletes, etc,etc) have to pay the price.
Pakistan can do one thing which will benefit it a lot,allow India to trade with Afghanistan and Iran through easier,safer ad cheaper route.I hate it when Political issues come in way of Trade between the countries.Pakistan earns a lot of foreign exchange through exports of rice and cotton and many things.I think there is enough to offer.

There is nothing in your post that I disagree with. Unfortunately your line of thinking is an exception, not the rule.

 

[OrionHunter]

The fact is that terrorism in India is at an all-time low. The total number of Indians killed in terrorist attacks in India in 2015 (outside the conflict theatres of Kashmir, the Northeast and the Maoist battlegrounds) is zero.

Mr Saadat Hasan Manto, the author of this article seems unaware of the fact that it is due to the Indian Army that these bozos from across have been prevented from infiltrating into India to create mayhem. They are being given a bloody nose and almost all attempts to infiltrate have failed. That's the reason why killings by terrorist have been at an all time low.

Secondly he says:

Given this, it stands to reason that there is little that India needs from Pakistan because so far as terrorism is concerned, Pakistan has delivered, going purely by the numbers.

Really? This ignorant fellow is full of bull! He needs to clarify why there are still 42 training camps and launch pads existing on the border in Pak Occupied Kashmir where hired mercenaries await an opportunity to infiltrate into India after being armed and equipped to the teeth.

You can't talk with a gun pointed at your head, can you? Dismantle these camps and launch pads, and the 'strategic assets' used for the proxy war against India, like the LeT and JeM, and then we'll think of talking.

 

[sancho]

They are direct threats to YOUR country. They are the single largest threat to india, even modi's predecessor admitted that. So forget Pakistan we are busy fighting against other enemies right now, no need to deliberately provoke Pakistan when its busy fighting a very complex insurgency

You missed the point, the fact that the terrorists in India are a threat to India was not denied, but the difference is, that they are no threat to Pakistan! That's why Pakistan don't need to care about terrorists in India, while the situation is different for India with the terrorists in Pakistan. They are a matter of concern and as long as Pakistans government / military is not showing that they take them as a serious threat for the stability of the region too, it's simply nothing but logical that they remain a concern for India. So if Pakistan wants India to keep focusing on the problems within India only, Pakistan has to do more against the threats to India from Pakistans soil.

Also nobody is denying that you are fighting a very complex insurgency, in fact most Indian officials even point to the fact how many Pakistani soldiers were killed and even more so, how many Pakistani civillians were killed too (the overwhelming support of the Indian public after the Peshawar attack don't need any further explanations either), but as long as you are fighting just one part of the terrorists, while letting others roam free, you simply can't solve the problem and that's not even what alone India tells you, but that's what most western countries are saying for years as well.
The stability of the region today is dependent on the stability within Pakistan today and the stability in Pakistan requires to acknowledge that all terrorists are bad, especially in times when new threats for all countries comes up in form of ISIS or similar organisations.

 

[Rocky25]

Sir,let's make one thing clear that we wont accept any thing such as these comments.

I have always felt due to Kashmir issue ,Pakistan makes a stupid mistake and let's it get in way of other things ,such as trade,which is something i hated and will hate.I think interaction between the people of the two countries can be made better and should be,we should do whatever possible to eradicate hatred on the ground level.One thing i have noticed is that getting a visa to India or the other way around is so though that at times our players(Kabbadi players,athletes, etc,etc) have to pay the price.
Pakistan can do one thing which will benefit it a lot,allow India to trade with Afghanistan and Iran through easier,safer ad cheaper route.I hate it when Political issues come in way of Trade between the countries.Pakistan earns a lot of foreign exchange through exports of rice and cotton and many things.I think there is enough to offer.

Your intentions are noble! But it is not how India and Pakistan worked for past 68 years!

There is serious misunderstanding.between two sides! It would be better for both to forget each other and work for their nations improvement!

 

[OTTOMAN]

Reality is opposite... it was modi who phoned Nawaz Sharif to organize appointment with Pakistan foreign office, who was not willing to hold any sort of talks.

Only person in Pakistan, who can negotiate well with hindus, is General Pervez Musharraf.

 

[Green Arrow]

A delusion India is living in they thought there was no need to talk but modi has realized they need to,issues like firing at LOC,trade etc,etc need to be dealt with.Thank god India has woken up , @Green Arrow and @syedali73 your thoughts on this ?

Sooner or later talks between the 2 country will resume any way. All this rhetoric by modi govt was due to Kashmir election.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

These talks are just an attempt to soothe USA's feelings

They requested us for talks with Pakistan ; we have agreed just to
prove to USA that NOTHING will change even after talks