Why is China interfering in Pakistan's domestic affairs ?

[Adonis]

Great idea. Gwadar would look nice with a huge PLAN naval station. Which other countries host huge foreign military bases? mmm

• UK
• Germany
• Turkey
• South Korea
• Japan
• Saudia Arabia
• UAE
• Bahrain

Everything to a degree is sold/bought in this world. wake up and grow up.

Mate...you speak from a slave mindset.....Pakistan is a sovereign country....we are not dogs who will wag tails if someone throws a piece of bread at us....With China too, it's a relationship. They invest, develop infrastructure with an aim to get benefited from it by getting an alternative risk free trading route..unlike the one through straits of Malacca.

Giving someone military base means compromising our security....plus inviting enmity from countries in opposite camp.....

I guess you have to wake and grow up...by realising that dependency on anyone, compromises your ability to stand on your feet, be respected and have a "say" in world affairs, as a sovereign and self-reliant state

 

[tkmd]

Apart from UK.. all of them are cucked and destroyed/defeated nations.

right bc turkey is a destroyed nation really just a disaster of a place...nothing to be proud of and a beggar. Same for Japan/South Korea.

 

[Umar Nazir]

Since when praising our government decision is interference of country's domestic affairs? If China speak against your court ruling, that's more like interference of your domestic affairs.this one is just like a routine compliment China always gives to friendly countries.


This one is called interference of a country's domestic affairs.

I am common citizen of Pakistan who are not representing Pakistani State

 

[dBSPL]

Yeh, so Germans, Japs, Turks, British are cucked but we in Pakistan that had British penis up our a*ss for 98 years are fcukin un-cooked?

Wtf?

Currently, theres no active US military operations base in TR, except the joint NATO missions*. Over the last 3 years, the US position in ME and structure in the region has undergone a significant change. The map is out of date. From last 3 years, weight shifted to Jordan, Iraq and Qatar. Also, the island of Crete is being evaluated for long-range strategic aircrafts.

*- Within the NATO missions in TR, there is no military capacity left, also. Only the Kurecik Radar base continues to work. Italy withdrawing its air defense battalion which was served in accordance with Article 5 of the NATO . The condition of the Spanish battalion is uncertain, but it is expected to withdraw during the year.

Although the legal status of Incirlik air base continues, there is nothing more than a coordination office.

 

[pakpride00090]

And if you want to play smart or go all legal then there was no Federal German Republic before 1950. There was no South Korean Republic before 1949. There was no Turkish Republic before 1921 etc.

That is not the point. The point is all of these nations either lost the wars or were too weak to begin with. German was defeated in 1945 . South Korea was about to be won over by NK had Americans not helped them. Turkish lost WW1.

Pakistan was no where at that time. Our forefathers conceived the plan and executed it. They won. Not lost.

Everything to a degree is sold/bought in this world. wake up and grow up.

Not really. That is a defeatist and slave mindset. Thankfully neither Jinnah or Zia thought like that. At least learn something from those gun toting and flip flop wearing Afghan Taliban.

right bc turkey is a destroyed nation really just a disaster of a place...nothing to be proud of and a beggar. Same for Japan/South Korea.

Turkey was a disaster after WW1. The only reason it became stronger was because it shed its past and embraced european/western way of living/mindset.That is the reason why it is somewhat economically strong , even that is not case now.

Japan/South Korea are American client state. They won't survive if America didn't help them.
Japan got its balls cut off after 1945. Their men are way too feminized. Japenese women over-overwhelmingly prefer American Caucasian men . Also , every single institution in Japan is bugged and under control of America. At least read what snowden said about American control of Asian nations.

South korea is an american client state as well. Far worse than Japan when it comes to being a cuck. The only reason why its economy thrived was because of IMF help in 1997. That IMF help didn't come without strings. Watch south korean movie Default.... That movie will tell you how the arms of South korean government was twisted in handing over their economy to Americans via IMF.

 

[313ghazi]

Patwari's probably made plenty of kickbacks to Chinese too. Maybe in 100 years time or 200 years time we'll find out the truth about how corrupt all these deals are, especially military deals.

 

[pakpride00090]

Since when praising our government decision is interference of country's domestic affairs? If China speak against your court ruling, that's more like interference of your domestic affairs.this one is just like a routine compliment China always gives to friendly countries.


This one is called interference of a country's domestic affairs.

No need for the praise or criticism when it comes to internal affairs. Your government officials should keep their mouths shut when it comes to internal matters.
When one has no understanding of internal dynamics , he looks like a fool... Just like Mr.Lijian Zhao looked.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

That is not the point. The point is all of these nations either lost the wars or were too weak to begin with. German was defeated in 1945 . South Korea was about to be won over by NK had Americans not helped them. Turkish lost WW1.

Pakistan was no where at that time. Our forefathers conceived the plan and executed it. They won. Not lost.



Not really. That is a defeatist and slave mindset. Thankfully neither Jinnah or Zia thought like that. At least learn something from those gun toting and flip flop wearing Afghan Taliban.



Turkey was a disaster after WW1. The only reason it became stronger was because it shed its past and embraced european/western way of living/mindset.That is the reason why it is somewhat economically strong , even that is not case now.

Japan/South Korea are American client state. They won't survive if America didn't help them.
Japan got its balls cut off after 1945. Their men are way too feminized. Japenese women over-overwhelmingly prefer American Caucasian men . Also , every single institution in Japan is bugged and under control of America. At least read what snowden said about American control of Asian nations.

South korea is an american client state as well. Far worse than Japan when it comes to being a cuck. The only reason why its economy thrived was because of IMF help in 1997. That IMF help didn't come without strings. Watch south korean movie Default.... That movie will tell you how the arms of South korean government was twisted in handing over their economy to Americans via IMF.

No idea whether to laugh at your reply or take it seriously.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Sorry but uigher is Chinese internal matter.we shouldn't criticize every country that is doing things against Muslims.we must look at our own country first and China has helped us so many times.it is clear to me that China is not happy with current government of pakistan because the progress of some of the projects under cpec is very slow and they basically want progress from pakistani side.they were happy under Nawaz government.i told you guys on some other thread that this government doesn't have very good relations with China and saudia.

 

[pakpride00090]

No idea whether to laugh at your reply or take it seriously.

Up to you.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Up to you.

Reasoning with a donkey would be more productive. But I will see. Anybody who has ever been to Germany, Turkey or Japan and then Pakistan will know what I mean. Those countries are worlds power houses that weild massive influence. The name "Germany" or "Japan" carry massive kudos. Compare their international weight [check out their passport scores] and then compare the bankrupt, broken, terrorist challanged, begger led by corrupt govdernments that produces waves of desperate migrants I only wishe we were 'broken' like Germany, Japan and Turkey.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Reasoning with a donkey would be more productive. But I will see. Anybody who has ever been to Germany, Turkey or Japan and then Pakistan will know what I mean. Those countries are worlds power houses that weild massive influence. The name "Germany" or "Japan" carry massive kudos. Compare their international weight [check out their passport scores] and then compare the bankrupt, broken, terrorist challanged, begger led by corrupt govdernments that produces waves of desperate migrants I only wishe we were 'broken' like Germany, Japan and Turkey.

I agree with you.i have friends in japan.look at their infrastructure and look at germany.we are no way near them.there is no terrorist problem there and there is no more hostility and weird dispute like kashmir.we must take responsibility for our actions but unfortunately we are running away.look at Europe and look at pakistan! Pathetic.

 

[pakpride00090]

Reasoning with a donkey would be more productive. But I will see. Anybody who has ever been to Germany, Turkey or Japan and then Pakistan will know what I mean. Those countries are worlds power houses that weild massive influence. The name "Germany" or "Japan" carry massive kudos. Compare their international weight [check out their passport scores] and then compare the bankrupt, broken, terrorist challanged, begger led by corrupt govdernments that produces waves of desperate migrants I only wishe we were 'broken' like Germany, Japan and Turkey.

You keep shifting the goal posts. I talked about the origins of these countries and you have moved ahead 60 years now to bring points that are not relevant.

Yeah , because we never got the marshall plan. Never were under the tutelage of a superpower. Always had fights at the borders and had to counter India. Also , heterogeneous population that have their own agendas.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

By the way Germany comes No. 2 on the global scale of passport index, Japan 3 and Turkey at 36. You know where Pakistan comes? At bottom 88 next to Afghanistan with even Somalia higher then us. What does this mean? This means in the real world when they see you as Pakistani, they regard you as something better then a animal but lower then a Somali. So please clean your ears outs, buy pair of glasses and see the sitiuation in the real world. In the real world Germany and Japan are looked at as bastions of global respect.

https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

 

[zeeshe100]

I see nothing wrong