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Old adage might is right every mighty entity is known to use its power for its gains. This is nothing new. Difference is in today's in some countries(not China) there are voice of dissent which opposes this behaviour without fear of prosecution but generally these voices have been weak,
 
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lol i was typing that 4 am in the morning, there bound to be some typo...

You can come to california and try to kill half the population, IF YOU CAN DO IT.

Do you even know the meaning of sovereignty??

Under the UN PUblic Law Forum, law of sovereignty is said to be a country with a population and a functioning government. The term "Government" does not suitable to use by tribal ruling, American indian is a tribe so we are "Legally" grabbing the land of America. So what you said is NOT POSSIBLE as California already have State Government and a Federal Government with a population to govern. You can try and come to California and kill half of the californian,, if you can. Seriously i don't very much like California anyway. IF you want to try, then come try

Oh wait, you would say, yeah the west twisted the law so they make ntheir claim legal. The problem is you know China say yes to law of sovereignty, you know why? If they don't agree, they have to give back the northern part of China to indigenous personnel.
Are you familiar with the people in tibet and the people in Mongol??

So yes, China is as much bad as the west in this issue.

About war loser and apologise, did Chinese apologise to the Vietnamese when they took Paracel from them in 1974? Did China returned the Island yet??

Oh yes, CHinese are gonna say Vietnam is the part of China, well, tell that to the vietnamese, or Paracel were Chinese to start with or whatever, but truth be told, China took Paracel from Vietnamese in 1974 it was vietnamese administration BEFORE CHINA TOOK Paracel. Set aside all the claim, should China return the island to Vietnam before claiming the legal right of the Island.

Then what about AC? Did you return and apologise to Indian yet??


Well, Chinese Government don;t just think what i said was right, but also doing what i said. So are you actually Chinese?? How the heck you don't know they have beendoing what i was saying??

Or you said When Chinese use the word i say is ok, but when the west do it, they need to apologise, is it what you mean??
You are good at at finding excuses. Who told you tribal ppl's lands can be grabbed at will. Okay let me make a concession, hypothetically you are right, California was grabbed by USA from Mexico, which was obviously not a tribal ruling country. Does uncle Sam feel guilty and plan to return it to Mexico?

Regarding Xisha islands, I feel funny that you started your theory from 1974. Should we judge the ownership of an asset after a thief has finished his work? When the WW2 was over, it was China who got the right to accept Japanese surrender in SCS. So China has legal reasons to take these islands back. It's an award for our huge sacrifice and contribution to the war. Back then Vietnam didn't even exist.
 
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Vietnam and specially Philippine should be very careful not to become pawn of US.

Whatever consequences will be, the people of said countries will suffer the most impact.


Yep, both of them are encouraged and embolden by the uncle to bad mouth China constantly. You hardly hear the other disputed adversaries doing the same.

Aquino just appoints a new ambassador and wants to talk but at the same time he and his FM, del Rosario, bombard the international media with all kinds of negative messages and is not the first time either. What a dumb combo!
 
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US Wants Out Of Pacific Islands Mess

WASHINGTON: Wars have started over less. Even as the administration "rebalances" to Asia, it is scrambling to stay out of the region's escalating territorial disputes. None is more baffling to outsiders than the three-sided conflict over the tiny, uninhabited islands known in Japanese as the Senkakus and in Chinese as the Diaoyus or the Tiaoyutai.

And that dispute keeps escalating. Just this morning, China's Xinhua news service announced four warships of the rapidly growing PLA Navy had "patrolled" the waters off the Japanese-controlled isles, just the latest in a series of naval probes. On the U.S. side, the Senate passed an annual defense bill that included a (non-binding) "Sense of the Senate" amendment from Virginia's James Webb pledging the US will stand by its treaty commitments to defend "territories under the administration of Japan," explicitly including the Senkakus, against "armed attack."

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With two longtime allies pitted against not only each other but also against East Asia's largest power, the US is eager to stay out. Even as the US sends aircraft carriers to reassure its allies and develops an "AirSea Battle" doctrine aimed at defeating China, senior officers have said point-blank that the US will not go to war over "rocks."

"We don't take sides anywhere in the world on these things," said Pacific Command chief Adm. Samuel Locklear, repeating the administration's mantra in a talk to the Asia Society during his visit to Washington last week. That said, he went on, "I don't think these [conflicts] are going to go away, and we have to figure out how to get through them without miscalculation, without bringing warships and warplanes in."

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"I'm a little perplexed by Beijing's approach because I thought by now they would begin to pull back from the regular incursions," said James Schoff, one of Carnegie's indigenous experts. "I can't believe they actually expect they're going to change Japan's position [by] sending ships in and out of those waters."

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"By design, we're in competition with each other," Adm. Locklear said of the US and China. "That's a good thing. That's what fuels the global economy."

"The question," Locklear went on, "is how you do you manage the competition between large countries, large economies... in a productive way rather than one that leads you down the path of destruction."



Hawkish approach won't help | The Japan Times Online

One major issue in the campaign for the Dec. 16 Lower House election is the diplomatic dispute with China over the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. Some politicians and others on the Japanese side are taking a hawkish stance, but such an approach will only harden attitudes on the Chinese side, making it more difficult to resolve the issue. In such difficult diplomatic circumstances, it is all the more important to act in a coolheaded manner and to demonstrate ingenuity.

Conspicuous in the current election campaign is the hawkish approach of the Liberal Democratic Party, which is calling for revising the war-renouncing Article 9 of the Constitution to create the National Defense Force and for exercising the right to collective self-defense. Some of the so-called third pole forces, including the Japan Restoration Party, take a similar stance.

The approach of these parties would only serve to heighten bilateral tensions, perhaps even to the point of spurring an arms race, which would weaken Japan's security and deepen suspicion in the international community over Tokyo's intentions in East Asia.



Right now, we don't need an alliance with Japan

But this is not the whole story. Ask yourself why Tokyo is so interested in a closer relationship with Australia? The answer of course is China. Japan is very worried indeed about China's growing power, and about the US's willingness to stand up for them against Beijing. So, Tokyo seeks a regional coalition against China, and we are the first cab off the rank. Whatever Canberra may say, for Tokyo, a closer defence relationship with Australia is all about lining us up to support Japan against China.

This is a very good reason to push the pause button on the alliance with Japan. But even in its own terms we need to ask searching questions about what a closer defence relationship with Japan would really deliver to Australia, and what it would cost.

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The fact is that for all our close alignment of values and outlook, Australia and Japan have rather different strategic interests because our strategic geography is different. And when alliances are tested, it's interests that count, not values.

This is not to say that one day, in different circumstances, an alliance with Japan might not make sense for Australia. If the US withdraws from Asia, and we face a China intent on regional hegemony, then alliance with Japan might be one of the options open to us. But until that happens we should give top priority to building a policy aimed at avoiding such a predicament. An alliance with Tokyo has no place in such a policy.



Filipino Albert del Rosario a lone Asean voice taking on China | South China Morning Post

Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario refuses to stay quiet as regional partners fail to agree on policies for territorial row with China

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With Beijing still deriding "provocations" after a Philippine naval ship challenged Chinese fishermen early this year, Fu Ying , the vice-minister for foreign affairs, recently told him that Beijing intended to keep coastguard-type vessels at the shoal permanently.

China has also used ropes to block access to the interior of the shoal, which falls within its controversial nine-dash line claim to virtually all of the South China Sea.

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Some Filipino businessmen have questioned his tactics towards dealing with China while Senator Antonio Trillanes, who is running a back channel to Beijing, has said del Rosario has mis-handled formal negotiations over Scarborough.

Del Rosario has, however, denied reports he will resign and he apparently has Aquino's backing.

Reports in China's state media this week show just how tough a road lies ahead. In news stories outlining last week's appointment to Beijing of new Philippine ambassador Erlinda Basilio, mainland analysts and scholars made it clear that Beijing was in no mood to see Manila "stirring up trouble".



Thanks to our new Supreme Leader Xi Jinping, our enemies are running away with tail between their legs! :)
 
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Yep, both of them are encouraged and embolden by the uncle to bad mouth China constantly. You hardly hear the other disputed adversaries doing the same.

Aquino just appoints a new ambassador and wants to talk but at the same time he and his FM, del Rosario, bombard the international media with all kinds of negative messages and is not the first time either. What a dumb combo!

Really typical chinese no matter what place you come from always bad mouthing others we want international attribution because its right its fare and its logical you like us to accept a fantasy of an Country who was arrogant from the beginning up to the end thinking its above the accepted logic of the world and its so called peaceful solution is nothing more than a bloodless takeover bilateral in this case is nothing more than one sided in favor of china! Really fight for your rights is stupid? why are still alive then sir? because you do that also every single day you live you drink you eat in short you are alive what you and the rest of the trolls are saying here since we are smaller and weaker than you and we are inferior than you we should just do nothing and since you the chosen people of the world you should get this islands its mandated by heaven for your people! wow here i was thinking we live in the 21st century were freedom rains and people acted according to international law not the 19th century what most you trolls are doing advocating for war base on race, color and creed and something that is so stupid only a child would start pick a fight a small country to feel better about its self and claiming this and that for himself really sir with that note why are so surprise of the reactions and actions of our leaders and calling them dumb for doing there jobs of defending the Philippines its interest and in greater extent the peace of the whole region seriously i though you were smart but in the end your just other warmonger imperialist troll
 
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I applaud President Aquino and his FM for standing up to a bully. No one should steal other country's property. It is wrong to steal. Chinese should know that. Perhaps to the Chinese good neighborliness means submitting to their bullying and intimidation. Peace and stability to them is putting to prison and torturing their dissidents.

The Philippines move alone dashed China into anxiety by exposing their greedy, bullying and shameful acts. Any move that will internationalize this matter will freak-out China into nervous breakdown. China’s population is growing rapidly and soon will not be able to sustain its people. That’s why they want to take territories as much as they can to be able to feed them in years to come. The Philippines should not stop getting world attention in this regard. This is plainly unconstitutional as per International Law. Maybe the Chinese leaders do not understand as it is in English. Why not translate it in Chinese language?
 
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Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario refuses to stay quiet (quote from above)


In my opinion the big mouth of del Rosario and the indecisiveness of Aquino create more problems to the Filipinos and the country of Philippines rather than helping both.
 
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Vietnam and specially Philippine should be very careful not to become pawn of US.

Whatever consequences will be, the people of said countries will suffer the most impact.

Said the country that takes money from America typical hypocrite troll why should be china is my country second trading partner but we can live without china i mean one we are on of china largest investor in ASEAN a lot first gen chinese filipinos who came to the home land still invest billions in to china(which they should invest here but they instead evaded taxes saving themselves millions and bring back money on country that threats the country that made their lives better so ungrateful) so we are also helping china in way now she boycott our products and tourism which have little effect on us we found new trade partners for products we have double our tourism with our chinese to bad for them not us in fact its better no more rude chinaman yelling like owns the place no respect for anything and anyone (majority of chinese tourist are like this) Koreans replace them as 2nd largest tourist in the Philippines so that covers it other fact the chinese here they killing local business with there smuggle tax unpaid cheaply health danger products. So them leave us Vietnam and the Philippines is a plus for us we have other options.
 
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Really typical chinese no matter what place you come from always bad mouthing others we want international attribution because its right its fare and its logical you like us to accept a fantasy of an Country who was arrogant from the beginning up to the end thinking its above the accepted logic of the world and its so called peaceful solution is nothing more than a bloodless takeover bilateral in this case is nothing more than one sided in favor of china! Really fight for your rights is stupid? why are still alive then sir? because you do that also every single day you live you drink you eat in short you are alive what you and the rest of the trolls are saying here since we are smaller and weaker than you and we are inferior than you we should just do nothing and since you the chosen people of the world you should get this islands its mandated by heaven for your people! wow here i was thinking we live in the 21st century were freedom rains and people acted according to international law not the 19th century what most you trolls are doing advocating for war base on race, color and creed and something that is so stupid only a child would start pick a fight a small country to feel better about its self and claiming this and that for himself really sir with that note why are so surprise of the reactions and actions of our leaders and calling them dumb for doing there jobs of defending the Philippines its interest and in greater extent the peace of the whole region seriously i though you were smart but in the end your just other warmonger imperialist troll


LOL your rant is even worst than del Rosario, or at the least I could understand him.

Don't bother to quote me anymore because my eyes are not adjusted to your style of penmanship.
 
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Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario refuses to stay quiet (quote from above)


In my opinion the big mouth of del Rosario and the indecisiveness of Aquino create more problems to the Filipinos and the country of Philippines rather than helping both.


More problems i beg to differ one its not our fault its the chinese for being jerks two his administration is by far the best a lot of investments, projects on time no corruption and for years we tell you arrogant chinese to go to ITCLOS or the UN to solve this peaceful and yet you people insist on bilateral since you know you never win on fair level field so you tactics of intimidation and economic and military bullying and lying to your opponents to get what you want so again why blame public servant doing there jobs? your the idiot if you dont know that why pick a fight everyone is what i dont understand about you chinese? really this better man this idiotic.
 
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I don't think China is acting like a bully. It is growing more assertive and that comes with growing influence, combined with economic growth which in turn greatly boosts the spirit of its people. In fact China is the one country in Asia that knows how to advocate its interests and is not controlled by the west whereas the rest of Asia is almost completely either under the control of US or in the case of central Asia, Russia.

China could be a pretty good counter-balance. Western authors, as the one who wrote this report are paroting the same disbelief and shock that is felt within their societies over the possible fact that there could be another power that replaces them in the future and are unwilling to accept the fact that this power is, day by day growing assertive and willing to make its mark on human history.

Frankly I believe East Asian people have common features. Long ago I talked to a Korean and I ask him are you from China and he looks at me all offended, says, "Do I look Chinese?" Outsiders can't even tell the difference between you guys. You should abandon your differences and work together and if China is rising, let them rise. It will add to the already large fray of Asian countries that are economically powerful like Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Malaysia and Singapore.

Unfortunately since all these countries are firmly Pro-US Japan and Korea with thousands of US troops stationed and other nations with secret or not so secret bases China could rise up to be an Asian contender to negative US influence in the region. In fact Americans are so China-phobic their leaders are stopping Chinese from investing there.
 
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Don't the chinese justify their aggressive tactics by citing the western "string of pearls" strategy?! Chinese is indeed a very powerful force. But if China is expecting others to roll over and play dead - it would have committed its first mistake.
 
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Vietnam and specially Philippine should be very careful not to become pawn of US.

Whatever consequences will be, the people of said countries will suffer the most impact.
Just look at the map, China is surrounded with US Asian allies.

Well this may just be the opportunity that the US is waiting for to dissolve the Chinese debt and contain their development by using the Philippines or Japan as bait. If China attacks the Philippines or Japan, The US can take the moral high ground citing the Mutual defense treaty to impose commercial and military sanctions either way China is screwed. China will turn to ashes if they start the war.
 
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