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Why is China behaving like a bully?

The Universal answer of the OP from a Chinese member is, Blame the west for our deed, we are a peaceful people. LOL

Whatever people say Chinese is bad, Chinese will say, we are bad? No way, look at the people in the west, we are not half as bad. But if the guy next to me jump off a bridge, should i follow?? :cheers:

Seriously, the problem is, being 90% han meaning there WILL be supression or at least discrimination of minority happened to their society, this is the basic problem of Chiense as a society. To a country that is over 90% the same race the racial competibility will be miminal at their own society, and when those people are your minority under your society, those same people are majority of the other society. That translate to the racial competibility did not do well to other nations. Hence the convertness is not doing Chinese a big favor as a world player.

With those mentality, when China face the world, chinese tend to treat people in the world as the same as their own minority (ie, there are no different to a Korean living in China and a Korean living in Korea) but the fact to the matter is, when those people are your minority, you can afford to ignore them, but when they were in another country full of the same people, you can't.

This explain the lack of diplomacy China have been dealing with the world, when they think the world is their minority, they don't tend to help, nor attack, there are no reason to. But when a fellow Han Chinese is at danger, then the Chinese will scream conspiracy or bloody murder as loud as they can.

This is the same effect, China think the world turn around her, but not the other way around.
They weren't bully, they just don't know how to deal with international relation, like a boy's first love which he don't know how to handle, i know, it's kinda queer but this is IMO the best explanation.

your knowledge of how China is appalling, like a classic brainwashed westerner```you half blooded Chinese doesnt mean you know China. acctually you sound like an extreemly ignorant guy tries too much with your nonsensial 'theory
 
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The Universal answer of the OP from a Chinese member is, Blame the west for our deed, we are a peaceful people. LOL

Whatever people say Chinese is bad, Chinese will say, we are bad? No way, look at the people in the west, we are not half as bad. But if the guy next to me jump off a bridge, should i follow?? :cheers:

Seriously, the problem is, being 90% han meaning there WILL be supression or at least discrimination of minority happened to their society, this is the basic problem of Chiense as a society. To a country that is over 90% the same race the racial competibility will be miminal at their own society, and when those people are your minority under your society, those same people are majority of the other society. That translate to the racial competibility did not do well to other nations. Hence the convertness is not doing Chinese a big favor as a world player.

With those mentality, when China face the world, chinese tend to treat people in the world as the same as their own minority (ie, there are no different to a Korean living in China and a Korean living in Korea) but the fact to the matter is, when those people are your minority, you can afford to ignore them, but when they were in another country full of the same people, you can't.

This explain the lack of diplomacy China have been dealing with the world, when they think the world is their minority, they don't tend to help, nor attack, there are no reason to. But when a fellow Han Chinese is at danger, then the Chinese will scream conspiracy or bloody murder as loud as they can.

This is the same effect, China think the world turn around her, but not the other way around.
They weren't bully, they just don't know how to deal with international relation, like a boy's first love which he don't know how to handle, i know, it's kinda queer but this is IMO the best explanation.



for last 200 years who waged the most wars?--the west
for last 200 years who slaved other countries? the west
for last 200 years who brought the worst environmental damage to earth? the west
for last 200 years who created the worst holocaust? the west
for last 2oo years who keeps invadeing other countries just because they have different idea? the west
and the list goes for ever```

and now I am asking you what harm did China do to the world for last 200 years?

your pathetic view of China is really disgusting

The biggest bully ever existed is US.

but U.S' dogs like phino doesnt think so````the phinos keep waving tails to whatever their american masters doing
 
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China is a super power ?? what a cheap joke, do I need to remind you how coward China was in 1979 ??

Your govt. simply too scare to fight a real serious war with us already, so, if you wanna fight, let grab a gun and do it by your self.:coffee:

maybe not for some other countries.but for vietnam ,China has been a superpower for several thousands years.
i don't know what has your CPV done to decorate the wars in 1979.China is the winner even if it is based on the historical data of your Defense Department.so why are you proud of a war that one army kill your people on your land?and why are you happy to be the cheerleader of your leaders whose reckless move will invite another massacre in your country?
 
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there are many role models.
britons,mentioned in another thread ,had invaded 90% countries of the world.
amaricans,beated Iraq & Afghanistan for oil.and support color revolutions secretly in many countries which don't want to be followers of amarica.
Tsarist Russia occupied lands dozens of times of it was.
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When China is preparing to regain the islands which belonged to itself,monkeys are jumping restlessly.
When the peaceful rise thwarted,what should China do?learn more from the superpowers.
US style :wipe out vietnam govement for the reason of weapons of mass destruction or terrorism and found a new one that support China.
Russia style: occupy it and set up a vietnam province!
briton style: colony
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however, our CCP govenment is too kind to give some sandbags to PLA.He did not even use force to regain lost ground.what a pity!

Islands belong to Vietnam, not China.
China is bullying Vietnam to rob Islands of us.
 
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maybe not for some other countries.but for vietnam ,China has been a superpower for several thousands years.
i don't know what has your CPV done to decorate the wars in 1979.China is the winner even if it is based on the historical data of your Defense Department.so why are you proud of a war that one army kill your people on your land?and why are you happy to be the cheerleader of your leaders whose reckless move will invite another massacre in your country?

because when China was the superpower back then they were our lapdogs, and now they are the current superpower's lapgods```nothing can change their quality
 
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for last 200 years who waged the most wars?--the west
for last 200 years who slaved other countries? the west
for last 200 years who brought the worst environmental damage to earth? the west
for last 200 years who created the worst holocaust? the west
for last 2oo years who keeps invadeing other countries just because they have different idea? the west
and the list goes for ever```

and now I am asking you what harm did China do to the world for last 200 years?

your pathetic view of China is really disgusting



but U.S' dogs like phino doesnt think so````the phinos keep waving tails to whatever their american masters doing

lol I like your trolling style :)

But didn't exactly words like this make people think Bully here?? Another point proven by point prover.

Since when blaming other relieve your own problem LOL :)
 
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Did somebody call for a bully?


A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS


* 1890..................South Dakota................300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded Knee.

* 1890..................Argentina......................Buenos Aires interests protected

* 1891..................Chile.............................Marines clash with nationalist rebel

* 1891..................Haiti..............................Black revolt on Navassa defeated

* 1892...................Idaho............................Army suppresses silver miners' strike

* 1893- ................Hawaii............................Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed

* 1894..................Chicago.........................Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed

* 1894..................Nicaragua......................Month-long occupation of Bluefields

* 1894-5...............China.............................Marines land in Sino-Japanese War

* 1894-6...............Korea.............................Marines kept in Seoul during war

* 1895..................Panama.........................Marines land in Colombian province

* 1896..................Nicaragua.......................Marines land in port of Corinto

* 1898-1900..........China.............................Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies

* 1898-1910-.........Philippines.....................Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos

* 1898-1902-.........Cuba.............................Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base

* 1898- .................Puerto Rico...................Seized from Spain, occupation continues

* 1898- .................Guam...........................Seized from Spain, still use as base

* 1898- .................Minnesota.....................Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake

* 1898 ..................Nicaragua .....................Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur

* 1899- .................Samoa .........................Battle over succession to throne

* 1899 ..................Nicaragua .....................Marines land at port of Bluefields

* 1899-01 .............Idaho ............................Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region

* 1901 .................Oklahoma .....................Army battles Creek Indian revolt

* 1901-1914 .........Panama ........................Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone; Opened canal 1914.

* 1903 .................Honduras ......................Marines intervene in revolution

* 1903-04 ..............Dominican Republic .......U.S. interests protected in Revolution

* 1904-05 ..............Korea ............................Marines land in Russo-Japanese War

* 1906-09 ..............Cuba ............................Marines land in democratic election

* 1907 ...................Nicaragua ....................."Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up

* 1907 ...................Honduras ......................Marines land during war with Nicaragua

* 1908 ...................Panama ........................Marines intervene in election contest.

* 1910 ...................Nicaragua ......................Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto

* 1911 ...................Honduras .......................U.S. interests protected in civil war

* 1911-1914 ...........China .............................Continuous occupation with flare-ups

* 1912 ...................Cuba ..............................U.S. interests protected in civil war

* 1912 ...................Panama ......................... Marines land during heated election

* 1912 ...................Honduras ........................Marines protect U.S. economic interest

* 1912-33 ...............Nicaragua .......................10-year occupation, fought guerrillas

* 1913 ....................Mexico ...........................Americans evacuated during revolution

* 1914 ....................Dominican republic ..........Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo

* 1914 ....................Colorado .........................Breaking of miners' strike by Army

* 1914-18 ................Mexico ...........................Series of interventions against nationalists

* 1914-34 ................Haiti ...............................19-year occupation after revolts

* 1915 .....................Texas .............................Federal soldiers crush "Plan of San Diego" Mexican-American rebellion

* 1916-24 ................Dominican Republic .........8-year Marine occupation

* 1917-33 ................Cuba ...............................Military occupation, economic protectorate

* 1917-18 ................WWI ...............................Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years

* 1918-22 ................Russia ............................Five landings to fight Bolsheviks

* 1918-20 ................Panama .........................."Police duty" during unrest after elections

* 1919 .....................Honduras .........................Marines land during election campaign

* 1919 .....................Yugoslavia ........................intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia

* 1920 .....................Gautemala .......................2-week intervention against unionists

* 1920-21 .................West Virginia ...................Army intervenes against mineworkers

* 1922 ......................Turkey ............................Fought nationalists in Smyrna

* 1922-27 ..................China ..............................Deployment during nationalist revolt

* 1923 ......................Mexico .............................Airpower defends Calles from rebellion

* 1924-25 ..................Honduras .........................Landed twice during election strife

* 1925 .......................Panama ...........................Marines suppress general strike

* 1927-34 ...................China ..............................Marines stationed throughout the country

* 1932 .......................El Salvador ......................Warships send during Marti revolt

* 1932 .......................Washington DC ................Army stops WWI vet bonus protest

* 1941-45 ...................WWII ...............................Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germany for 3 years; first nuclear war

* 1943 .......................Detroit ...............................Army put down Black rebellion

* 1946 .......................Iran ...................................Soviet troops told to leave north

* 1946 .......................Yugoslavia .........................Response to shoot-down of US plane

* 1947 ........................Uruguay ............................Bombers deployed as show of strength

* 1947-49 ...................Greece ..............................U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war

* 1948 ........................Germany ..........................Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift

* 1948-49 ....................China ...............................evacuate Americans before Communist victory

* 1948-54 ....................Philippines ........................CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion

* 1950 .........................Puerto Rico ......................Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce

* 1951-53- ....................Korea ..............................U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate, still have bases

* 1953 .........................Iran ..................................CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah

* 1954 .........................Vietnam ............................French offered bombs to use against siege

* 1954 .........................Guatemala ........................CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands

* 1956 .........................Egypt ................................Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners

* 1958 .........................Lebanon .............................Army & Marine occupation against rebels

* 1958 .........................Iraq ....................................Iraq warned against invading Kuwait

* 1958 .........................China .................................China told not to move on Taiwan isles

* 1958 .........................Panama .............................Flag protests erupt into confrontation

* 1960-75 .....................Vietnam .............................Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam, longest war for US

* 1961 .........................Cuba ..................................CIA-directed exile invasion fails

* 1961 .........................Germany ............................Alert during Berlin Wall crisis

* 1962 .........................Laos ..................................Military buildup during guerrilla war

* 1962 .........................Cuba .................................Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union

* 1963 .........................Iraq ....................................CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power

* 1964 .........................Panama ..............................Panamanians shot for urging canal's return

* 1965 .........................Indonesia .............................Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup

* 1965-66 ....................Dominican republic ...............Army & Marines land during election campaign

* 1966-67 ....................Guatemala ...........................Green Berets intervene against rebels

* 1967 .........................Detroit ..................................Army battles African Americans, 43 killed

* 1968 .........................US .......................................After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities

* 1969-75 .....................Cambodia .............................Up to 2 m killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos

* 1970 ..........................Oman ...................................U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion

* 1971-73 .....................Laos .....................................U.S. directs S Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside

* 1973 ..........................South Dakota ........................Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas

* 1973 ..........................Mideast ................................World-wide alert during Mideast War

* 1973 ..........................Chile .....................................CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president

* 1975 ..........................Cambodia ..............................Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 die when copter shot down

* 1976-92 ......................Angola ..................................CIA assists South African-backed rebels

* 1980 .......................... Iran .......................................Hostage rescue, 8 troops die in copter-plane crash

* 1981 ...........................Libya .................................... Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers

* 1981-92 ......................El Salvador .............................Advisers, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers involved actions

* 1981-90 ......................Nicaragua ...............................CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines

* 1982-84 ......................Lebanon ..................................Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells ..............................................................................Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.

* 1983-84 ......................Grenada ...................................Invasion four years after revolution

* 1983-89 ......................Honduras .................................Maneuvers help build bases near borders

* 1984 ...........................Iran .........................................Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf

* 1986 ...........................Libya .......................................Air strikes to topple Qaddafi gov't

* 1986 ...........................Bolivia ......................................Army assists raids on cocaine region

* 1987-88 ...................... Iran ..........................................On Iraq in war, defend reflagged tankers and shoot down civilian jet

* 1989 ...........................Libya ........................................Two Libyan jets shot down

* 1989 ...........................Virgin Islands .............................St. Croix Black unrest after storm

* 1989 ...........................Philippines .................................Air cover provided for government against coup

* 1989- ..........................Panama .....................................Nationalist government ousted by soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.

* 1990 ...........................Liberia ........................................Foreigners evacuated during civil war

* 1990-91 ......................Saudi Arabia .............................. Iraq invade Kuwait,540,000 troops stationed nearby

* 1990-91 .......................Iraq ............................................Air strikes; 200,000+ killed

* 1991 ...........................Kuwait ........................................Kuwait royal family returned to throne

* 1991-2003 ...................Iraq .............................................No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes ........................................................................................and naval-enforced economic sanctions

* 1992 ...........................Los Angeles ................................Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising

* 1992-94 ......................Somalia ......................................U.S led UN occupation during civil war; raids against Mogadishu faction

* 1992-94 ......................Yugoslavia ..................................NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro

* 1993- ..........................Bosnia .......................................No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs

* 1994 ...........................Haiti ..........................................Blockade against military gov't; troops restore Pres Aristide

* 1996-97 .......................Zaire (Congo) .............................Troops at Rwandan where Congo revolution begins

* 1997 ...........................Liberia ........................................Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners

* 1997 ...........................Albania .......................................Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners

* 1998 ...........................Sudan .........................................Attack on pharm plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant

* 1998 ...........................Afghanistan .................................Missiles on training camps

* 1998 ...........................Iraq .............................................Intensive air strikes after inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions

* 1999 ...........................Yugoslavia ...................................NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo, occupy

* 2000 ...........................Yeman ........................................USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed

* 2001 ...........................Macedonia ..................................NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels

* 2001 ...........................US ..............................................Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC

* 2001- ..........................Afghanistan .................................30,000 U.S. troops overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda

* 2002 ...........................Yeman .........................................Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda

* 2002- ...........................Philippines ..................................Train Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels

* 2003- ...........................Columbia .....................................US special force back up Colombian military protect oil pipeline

* 2003-............................Iraq ..............................................US led UN force for WMD

* 2003 ............................Liberia ..........................................Peacekeeping as rebels drove out leader

* 2004-05 .......................Haiti .............................................Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust Aristide

* 2005- ...........................Pakistan .......................................Drone strikes

* 2006- ...........................Somalia ........................................Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion

* 2008 ............................Syria ........................................... Special Forces in helicopter raid from Iraq

* 2009- ...........................Yeman .........................................Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians

* 2011- ........................... Libya ...........................................NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks


History of U.S. Military Interventions since 1890


Am I qualify to be one? :smokin:
 
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maybe not for some other countries.but for vietnam ,China has been a superpower for several thousands years.
i don't know what has your CPV done to decorate the wars in 1979.China is the winner even if it is based on the historical data of your Defense Department.so why are you proud of a war that one army kill your people on your land?and why are you happy to be the cheerleader of your leaders whose reckless move will invite another massacre in your country?

Chinese ran back with bloody heads 1979, he he, it's enough.:enjoy:
 
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lol I like your trolling style :)

But didn't exactly words like this make people think Bully here?? Another point proven by point prover.

Since when blaming other relieve your own problem LOL :)

Blaming US or other western countries doesn't relieve our problem. The question is, since China acts just like, or even better than other big powers do. Why it is China alone who gets blamed and meanwhile US is described as an angel?
By the way, what you said about China's ethnic situation is totally not true.
 
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China is a super power ?? what a cheap joke, do I need to remind you how coward China was in 1979 ??

Your govt. simply too scare to fight a real serious war with us already, so, if you wanna fight, let grab a gun and do it by your self.:coffee:
China should revolt VN's bully, China is so weak and VN is so strong, look at the pics , one will know who bully and why Indonesia and Brunei don't come with VN, bcs they compete for islands with VN not China
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Blaming US or other western countries doesn't relieve our problem. The question is, since China acts just like, or even better than other big powers do. Why it is China alone who gets blamed and meanwhile US is described as an angel?
By the way, what you said about China's ethnic situation is totally not true.

Lol the thing is, nobody saying the west is an angel, whatever the west did we owned up the past.

Everyone did bad thing in the past, it's not as important for someone to do bad thing but it's more important for someone to own up their past. The problem is, we will apologise for our mistake. China never will. White American apologise to American Indian for their land, Germany apologise for WW2, White Australian apologise for the stolen generation. What did china apologised to? Tienenment square? They don't even apologise to their own people in cultral revolution..........Let alone to other 'bout their mistake.

ANd how am i wrong with the ethnic situation in China? Is China more divert than i say? I am not the one saying 90% Chinese are Han Chinese, how many Chinese of European decent you have? How many Chinese of Latin Decent you have there? And how many Nergo Chinese are there?? YOu tell me 90% Han is a very diverse community?
 
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Nationalism seems to be rising in all countries (East and West), not just China. Who's reacting to whom is an ongoing debate.
 
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Lol the thing is, nobody saying the west is an angel, whatever the west did we owned up the past.

Everyone did bad thing in the past, it's not as important for someone to do bad thing but it's more important for someone to own up their past. The problem is, we will apologise for our mistake. China never will. White American apologise to American Indian for their land, Germany apologise for WW2, White Australian apologise for the stolen generation. What did china apologised to? Tienenment square? They don't even apologise to their own people in cultral revolution..........Let alone to other 'bout their mistake.

ANd how am i wrong with the ethnic situation in China? Is China more divert than i say? I am not the one saying 90% Chinese are Han Chinese, how many Chinese of European decent you have? How many Chinese of Latin Decent you have there? And how many Nergo Chinese are there?? YOu tell me 90% Han is a very diverse community?

Did France say sorry to Germany for occupying Alsace-Lorraine in WW2? No, because Alsace-Lorraine is a disputed land and French believe it belongs to them. American did apologize to American Indians. Did Indians get their land back? No. We would like to say sorry to Vietnamese and Philippines if they agree to give the islands up.
Most ridiculous of all, why do you think a diverse races community is superior than one race community? Is that because western countries have diverse races? You are really narrow-minded guy. There are many one race countries. Japan, Korea, Vietnam.
 
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maybe not for some other countries.but for vietnam ,China has been a superpower for several thousands years.
i don't know what has your CPV done to decorate the wars in 1979.China is the winner even if it is based on the historical data of your Defense Department.so why are you proud of a war that one army kill your people on your land?and why are you happy to be the cheerleader of your leaders whose reckless move will invite another massacre in your country?
Oh, really ?? just bcz we didn't wanna invade your dirty and poor resources land like what Mongol,Manchus,Japan did to you, so it makes you think we're scared of you ??? poor brainwashed guy :lol:. Our land is far more fertile and more resources than you,we just like a rich man try to avoid troubles from a dirty poor guy by giving few cents and tell him to get lost, that all

in 1979 war, the whole world agreed that we Won, your PLA got bloody nose,cry like baby and ran back. Only 50 cent warrior like you keep thinking that 'supa powa'China won :coffee:
Hanoi believed, however, that the Vietnamese army had taught the Chinese army a lesson. One [People's Army of Vietnam] general said that China lost militarily and beat a hasty retreat: “After we defeated them we gave them the red carpet to leave Vietnam.” As Henry J. Kenny points out, “Most Western writers agree that Vietnam had indeed outperformed the PLA on the battlefield, but say that with the seizure of Lang Son, the PLA was poised to move into the militarily more hospitable terrain of the Red River Delta, and thence to Hanoi.” Kenny, however, points out that Lang Son is less than twelve miles from the Chinese border but is twice that distance from the delta. Moreover, at least five PAVN divisions remained poised for a counterattack in the delta, and thirty thousand additional PAVN troops from Cambodia, along with several regiments from Laos, were moving to their support. Thus the PLA would have taken huge losses in any southward move toward Hanoi.
http://faroutliers.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/what-the-pla-learned-in-vietnam-1979/
 
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Did France say sorry to Germany for occupying Alsace-Lorraine in WW2? No, because Alsace-Lorraine is a disputed land and French believe it belongs to them. American did apologize to American Indians. Did Indians get their land back? No. We would like to say sorry to Vietnamese and Philippines if they agree to give the islands up.
Most ridiculous of all, why do you think a diverse races community is superior than one race community? Is that because western countries have diverse races? You are really narrow-minded guy. There are many one race countries. Japan, Korea, Vietnam.

Dude, if you are not familize about the American Indian issue please do not say anything. American Indian Conservation have their own land, except for taxation purpose, Federal US government CANNOT enforce its law on their own reservation. exccept of course serious and federal crime.

And dude, why would you need to say sorry to occupy Germany when they freaking LOSE A WAR? The whole Germany were occupied as per Allied demilitarisation plan, as far as i know GErmany lose the war twice, and Germany never re-annex Alsace-Lorraine after WW1. France own Alsace-Lorraine, if Germany Defeat France again, then they can talk.

Finally, yes Vietnam, Japan and Korea is also a single Strait people, but any one of this is in the permanent seat of the UNSC and anyone of this is in the world stage of Diplomacy?? NO, only China was under the spotlight as of now. They all have similar policy to China (Sucked up to one Sugar Daddy, China -> was Russia, Vietnam -> Still Russia, Japan -> Still US, Korean -> Still US.

All their dipomacy politic are the same, but only China is on the spot light as they claim they want to become a Superpower. Not Vietnam, not Japan, not Korea
 
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