Why India wants to Destabalize Pakistan?

[Bill Longley]

India has the bigest intrest in destabalizing pakistan why
1. because of historically Pakistan never bowed in front of india

2. Pakistans gawader port will have eye on Strait of Hurmaz traffic and will provide Debth to Pak Navy and also link up Caspian oil reserves to Arabian sea. Indian oil comes from Mid east and india cannot tolerate any such port which can any time disturb indian supply
3. To reach central asia India is trying its best
A) to control kashmiri freedom Movement in IOK
B). to instegate Gilgiti and Kashmiri Population in Pakistan so that in future Bangladesh type action can take place . If india succeed in this.... Afghanistan, an indian ally will have no problem to give india permission to cross wakhan belt only few KM territory between Turkmanistan and Gilgit agency.

4. India also for same reason knows unless Pashtuns are brought against Pakistan can never prevail in Balochistan. That is why it is financeing TTP. BTW the Majority of out fits which US says are supporting Afghan Taliban never attacked Pakistani Intrests. The groups responsible for Terrorism are groups who dont prefer afghanistan but prefer to fight Pakistan.
Do you know mullah omer suspended Baitullah because he like do fight pakistan not Occupation forces in Afghanistan and is on role of Indians and Afghans ...same case with HeM and TNSM.

5. Nuclear Pakistan Along with China have enveloped India and it knows that due to prevailing strategic set up it can never complete its dream of Bharat Versha

 

[notsuperstitious]

"it can never complete its dream of Bharat Versha"

That about sums it up

Did you mean Bharat Verma?

You are a journalist eh? I'm beginning to understand the genesys of current Pakistani psyche.

 

[Bill Longley]

Yea understand it

after all you are children of chankya kutlia who said

to be power full create trubles in your neighbor hood by the way

read this

HINDU OF TODAY WISHES TO RE-ESTABLISH THE ANCIENT ORDER in the light of which he basks for he is child of that culture[Romesh thaper, illustrated weekly of India, 7 December 1986].

* Its dream of every Hindu to bring back the ideal time of Chander Gupt Murya and the era of Ram RAJ, the era of Akhand Bharat.

* Gandhi wrote in 1947(India of my dream) would express ancient moral glory…..[the India of my dreams,1947 pg 87-95]

* Bharat Versh is the time of Hindu glory and every Hindu wants it to return.

* The creation of Pakistan was great set back for achievement of Hindu Rashtra/ Bharat Versh for Hindus.

* The Indians believe that two nation theory was the only reason for creation of Pakistan.

* So since the inception of Pakistan Indian leader and especially Hindu TVA people openly show their hate for this theory.

* Indians believe who ever lives in India is Hindu, they claim Hindu is derived from Sindhu the name of Indus river.

* As all people who live in sub continent are Hindus so their loyalties should be with India and Hinduism.

* They claim Hinduism is not a religion but way of life developed in thousands of years.

* Nehru in his anguish once said” sooner or latter India will have to function as a unified country”

* After partition India did every thing to hurt Pakistan, they did not give us our share, stopped water etc because they thought we will collapse and India will be 1 again and Bharat Versh will start.

 

[sob]

Somebody must have been in the looney land to dream of this list.

Seriously I would like to invite you to India, spend some time with the common man and then you will find out what does India want.

Earlier the cry was
Roti
Kapada, aur
Makaan

Now we have added to the above,
Bijli
Sadak
Paani

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Somebody must have been in the looney land to dream of this list.

Seriously I would like to invite you to India, spend some time with the common man and then you will find out what does India want.

Earlier the cry was
Roti
Kapada, aur
Makaan

Now we have added to the above,
Bijli
Sadak
Paani

What the people want in both nations, and what the politicians run their campaigns on, do not reflect the covert policies of each nation towards the other - there is a reason its called 'covert' correct?

You don't address election rallies saying you will destabilize XYZ nation.

However, plenty of retired Indian bureaucrats, military and defense officials have written about how India is stronger if Pakistani is destabilized and weak, and possibly even divided.

These people were in positions of authority - it is likely this viewpoint exists in the Indian establishment. The extent to which it exists, and whether it is the prevalent POV, will obviously not be known publcilcy since it carries serious implications for India internationally.

 

[pakomar]

Somebody must have been in the looney land to dream of this list.

Seriously I would like to invite you to India, spend some time with the common man and then you will find out what does India want.

Earlier the cry was
Roti
Kapada, aur
Makaan

Now we have added to the above,
Bijli
Sadak
Paani

It does n t matter about the common man in India wants. Its what RAW want with Pakistan. Sure India have democracy but it dose n t change a fact that RAW is there because of Pakistan. And Raw will continue its dirty work.

 

[SecularHumanist]

A destabilized Pakistan (like right now) is not in India or anybodys interest. Such a Pakistan will lead to more 26/11 for India and why would they want that?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

A destabilized Pakistan (like right now) is not in India or anybodys interest. Such a Pakistan will lead to more 26/11 for India and why would they want that?

That's a good question to ask those bureaucrats and officials I was talking about.

My opinion is that these people believe the resulting chaos in Pakistan will prevent these groups from attacking Pakistan since they would be focused on gaining control and power in Pakistan - sort of what happened in Afghanistan.

Since the Indo-Pak border and the LoC is heavily militarized, and could be reinforced even further, the fallout on India would be minimized. In addition, if the situation gets to the point of widespread chaos, a lack of resources from a dying economy would likely result in the Pakistani military unable to maintain high tech equipment, and allow India to capture strategic areas for use as 'buffers' if the need arose, under the pretext of preventing terrorism on its soil.

 

[HAIDER]

Why India wants to destablize Pakistan ???. Answer of this question hidden in , Bangladesh 71, Siachin, Sircreek, Baluchistan, Interior Sind uprising, supporting anti Pakistan factions in Afghanistan. India is open enemy of Pakistan. Don't need to look for some justifiable reasoning. All India wants to break Pakistan slowly, its plan is spread over ages. Without merging Pakistan into India, India has no survival in future, It population boom is much more higher then its economic boom. We see more and more economic anarchy in India in next 50 to 100 years.

 

[anathema]

India has the bigest intrest in destabalizing pakistan why
1. because of historically Pakistan never bowed in front of india

2. Pakistans gawader port will have eye on Strait of Hurmaz traffic and will provide Debth to Pak Navy and also link up Caspian oil reserves to Arabian sea. Indian oil comes from Mid east and india cannot tolerate any such port which can any time disturb indian supply
3. To reach central asia India is trying its best
A) to control kashmiri freedom Movement in IOK
B). to instegate Gilgiti and Kashmiri Population in Pakistan so that in future Bangladesh type action can take place . If india succeed in this.... Afghanistan, an indian ally will have no problem to give india permission to cross wakhan belt only few KM territory between Turkmanistan and Gilgit agency.

4. India also for same reason knows unless Pashtuns are brought against Pakistan can never prevail in Balochistan. That is why it is financeing TTP. BTW the Majority of out fits which US says are supporting Afghan Taliban never attacked Pakistani Intrests. The groups responsible for Terrorism are groups who dont prefer afghanistan but prefer to fight Pakistan.
Do you know mullah omer suspended Baitullah because he like do fight pakistan not Occupation forces in Afghanistan and is on role of Indians and Afghans ...same case with HeM and TNSM.

5. Nuclear Pakistan Along with China have enveloped India and it knows that due to prevailing strategic set up it can never complete its dream of Bharat Versha

For the sake of agreeing all of your above points are valid, however there is one thing which offsets all the above points and specifically points to the direction that India doesnt want pakistan to destablize.

PAK is a NUCLEAR nation.

Everyone knows what that means..a destabilized pak ruled by Radio loony mullahs , is the last thing India would wish for; Heck for that matter even China would wish for...the moment that happens , you can be pretty sure that sooner or later you will see a mushroom cloud in indian territories...India or the world doesnt want to see that and they indirectly or directly would never wish for destablized pakistan - enemity in this scenario doesnt matter.

Plus India at this point of time has a lot too loooseee as a nation and nuclear holocaust, is unimaginable.

I would request you to divert your Journalistic investigative expertise to some other regions..have been waiting to hear about SSG ops in swat..but very few so far.

 

[jeypore]

Why India wants to destablize Pakistan ???. Answer of this question hidden in , Bangladesh 71, Siachin, Sircreek, Baluchistan, Interior Sind uprising, supporting anti Pakistan factions in Afghanistan. India is open enemy of Pakistan. Don't need to look for some justifiable reasoning. All India wants to break Pakistan slowly, its plan is spread over ages. Without merging Pakistan into India, India has no survival in future, It population boom is much more higher then its economic boom. We see more and more economic anarchy in India in next 50 to 100 years.

What nonsence, There is not one indication from the Indian side of mergeing with Pakistan. There is no benefit at all. Provide whatever links that shows this!!

Thanks.

 

[third eye]

This subject has been dealt with on a No of other threads here. As things stand now more than India or any other nation, its Pak who not only wants to destabilse itself but has put itself on ' self destruct' mode.

Compounding the confusion are the ppl of Pk where the moderates & level headed are unable to assert themselves thus allowing the hard liners who are definitely lesser in numbers to hijack the nation sully its reputation and displace thousands.

Pk does not need India or Af to get destabilsed, its doing a fine job by itself.

I would just like to add that no one or nothing can de stab a country unless its ppl allow themselves.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Why India wants to destablize Pakistan ???. Answer of this question hidden in , Bangladesh 71, Siachin, Sircreek, Baluchistan, Interior Sind uprising, supporting anti Pakistan factions in Afghanistan. India is open enemy of Pakistan. Don't need to look for some justifiable reasoning. All India wants to break Pakistan slowly, its plan is spread over ages. Without merging Pakistan into India, India has no survival in future, It population boom is much more higher then its economic boom. We see more and more economic anarchy in India in next 50 to 100 years.

I disagree that India wants to 'merge' Pakistan with it, though a Pakistan divided into smaller entities would eventually result in those smaller entities being absorbed into the Indian sphere of influence (over several decades), under the guise of SAARC etc.

I think the likely reason behind a section of the establishment supporting the idea of destabilization of Pakistan is what I postulated before - they believe the fallout can be contained and that a weak and destabilized Pakistan will pose no military threat to India and the infighting between the various factions and the Military and the factions will prevent these groups from focusing on India.

This POV exists - it is a question of whether it is the prevalent view or not. Indian analysts have argued that IK Gujral pulled back all Indian operations in Pakistan in 1998-1999. First of all, that admission clearly points out that India was involved in destabilizing Pakistan till that point at least. Second, we don't really know whether those operations were really stopped, or put on the back burner, and restarted later.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

its Pak who not only wants to destabilse itself but has put itself on ' self destruct' mode.

Indeed - that's why we are fighting an insurgency in Swat and have 3 million displaced.

Wonderful analysis genius.

 

[third eye]

Indeed - that's why we are fighting an insurgency in Swat and have 3 million displaced.

Wonderful analysis genius.

Thats just the point.."We" did not decide to fight in Swat on our own. "We" were jolted into doing so after the deal 'we' struck with the baddies misfired and 'our' capital was only abt 100 km away from ' them".

" We' then had to re claim " our" land 'we' had willingly surrendered to them.

Uncle Sam's threat of doing it himself if " we' didn't do it was also an issue.

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