Why India wants an unstable Pakistan?

[my2cents]

Yes right, after decades of running LTTE, Mukti Bahini terrorist training camps from where the terrorists got trainings to butcher and massacre innocent civilians in the neighboring countries in their thousands, now india has learnt her lesson.

And now that she has shifted those terrorist training camps elsewhere to Afghanistan, Tajikstan etc, she should be exenorated from all that cross-border terrorism (past and present) , wow!

Modi raising the issue is like terrorist protesting again terrorism and the world knows it.

Fine Modi may not be the right candidate according to you, but all our past pms have raised this issue for last 2 decades.

Do you have any links to show Indian training camps in Afghanistan and Tajikstan? It is news to me.

 

[coffee_cup]

Well... in your face now... Indian Court Nipped the idea in its bud... but you chose to ignore that.
Yes I am going to play holier than though... because we don't have global terrorists being captured and killed in our backyard.

So only because court denied the idea (if at all) means there are no extremists in your society who would even build temples in the honor for the murderers of Ghandi? Talk about living in denial!!

We never say that we don't have problems with the extremists in our society, but you indians give us a real good laugh when you come here and claim how progressive, democratic and peace loving nation you are!!

PS. About remains of Jihadis being found in Pakistan is a completely different topic and there are lot of threads (and evidence) on PDF about how USA/CIA made them during "Afghan Jihad" invited them to Whitehouse and equalled them to their nations fathers. So now do you want to call USA president "backers of terrorists"?

 

[TankMan]

Yep,we are concerned about Pakistan

Then stop lying to yourself by saying you aren't. It's as simple as that.

Every year thousands of terrorists are pushed inside India......the army has to be there until it stops......

Your army has been there since long before any terrorism existed - except for your own LTTE and Mukti Bahini. Your army being there is what created the Kashmiri freedom fighters in the first place. Again, stop lying to yourselves. India's concern regarding Pakistan has never been about terrorism. The terrorism story is recent, the concerns are not.

Wow. The level of stupidity and delusion in Pakistan never ceases to amaze. Have fun living in your Islamic paradise.

Wow.
The level of idiotic, self-righteous, holier than thou delusions in India never cease to amaze. Have fun living in your modern secular democracy.

And do tell me where I mentioned any ''Islamic Paradise''. Or did you just throw that in because you had nothing else to say and wanted to make yourself a little happy? Go ahead, pat yourself on the back for coming up with that genius and original insult.

You're obviously too ignorant to actually argue, so naturally you just have to throw in some Islam-bashing comments.

Now that we're done with the bullshit, how about you attempt to dispute a single one of my claims? Is your former Army Chief also 'delusional' for admitting India's active participation in terrorist activities through Mukti Bahini? Do you deny the well-known, established and internationally recognized fact that India helped form, train, fund and arm the LTTE?

According to your own logic, ''Pakistan is getting what it deserves''. If you want to use that kind of logic to be happy about a country's people being murdered, apply the same logic to yourself and fear the day it happens to you.

 

[Zarvan]

Then stop lying to yourself by saying you aren't. It's as simple as that.

Your army has been there since long before any terrorism existed - except for your own LTTE and Mukti Bahini. Your army being there is what created the Kashmiri freedom fighters in the first place. Again, stop lying to yourselves. India's concern regarding Pakistan has never been about terrorism. The terrorism story is recent, the concerns are not.


Wow.
The level of idiotic, self-righteous, holier than thou delusions in India never cease to amaze. Have fun living in your modern secular democracy.

And do tell me where I mentioned any ''Islamic Paradise''. Or did you just throw that in because you had nothing else to say and wanted to make yourself a little happy? Go ahead, pat yourself on the back for coming up with that genius and original insult.

You're obviously too ignorant to actually argue, so naturally you just have to throw in some Islam-bashing comments.

Now that we're done with the bullshit, how about you attempt to dispute a single one of my claims? Is your former Army Chief also 'delusional' for admitting India's active participation in terrorist activities through Mukti Bahini? Do you deny the well-known, established and internationally recognized fact that India helped form, train, fund and arm the LTTE?

According to your own logic, ''Pakistan is getting what it deserves''. If you want to use that kind of logic to be happy about a country's people being murdered, apply the same logic to yourself and fear the day it happens to you.

India is doing what an enemy does the question is why are not we hitting back we need to strike in India and hit RAW and Indian Forces.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

we are in majority cause unlike present day pakistan, present day India was not completely under foreign rule. there were always areas of resistance provided by us towards foreigners... it was never a smooth ride for foreigners to rule us... there were kingdoms like vijayanagras of south, ahoms of north east, gajapatis of orissa who offered a heavy resistance to those barbaric invaders.. and then the rise of marathas and sikhs of north that almost liberated the present day sub-continent from the evil clutches of those barbarians.. muslims civilized hindus ??? keep that notion to pakistan itself... that fallacy can be used to justify the mass conversion of u people...

is this from comic book.. or fiction?

 

[itachiii]

is this from comic book.. or fiction?

don't worry it is credible history and was not taken from pak history textbooks..

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

So only because court denied the idea (if at all) means there are no extremists in your society who would even build temples in the honor for the murderers of Ghandi? Talk about living in denial!!

Extremists exist in every society... its the system the keeps them under check...In India we have a system that keeps them in Check...and that system delivers time and again... unlike Pakistan where system helps extremists and lets them grow under the garb of religion.

We never say that we don't have problems with the extremists in our society, but you Indians give us a real good laugh when you come here and claim how progressive, democratic and peace loving nation you are!!

Can you deny that we are not peace living... the world swears by Indian peace loving culture.. and the fact that India keeps extremists under check... and unlike you we are not fed hatred in our text books since day one...

PS. About remains of Jihadis being found in Pakistan is a completely different topic and there are lot of threads (and evidence) on PDF about how USA/CIA made them during "Afghan Jihad" invited them to Whitehouse and equalled them to their nations fathers. So now do you want to call USA president "backers of terrorists"?

US did whats good for their country.. its a shame that Pakistan despite of knowing whats gong on plundered your own society to support that so called Afghan Jihad... you played into Americase cold war game and now you are paying the price of the same.. American Dollars don't come for free..they always want something in return.. in Pakistan 's case your Army sold your entire country to America just to buy some weapon systems that can be used to counter India...

 

[coffee_cup]

Extremists exist in every society... its the system the keeps them under check...In India we have a system that keeps them in Check...and that system delivers time and again... unlike Pakistan where system helps extremists and lets them grow under the garb of religion.
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Keep living in denial dear, this is expected from an indian.

Sure you keep those hindu fundamentalists under check by making them PM. Here is how your check is working.

Five Attacks in Five Days on Christians in Central India


Whereas Pakistan gets all the bad press, india does all the shyti stuff!

Holier-than-thou, eh?

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Keep living in denial dear, this is expected from an indian.

Sure you keep those hindu fundamentalists under check by making them PM. Here is how your check is working.

Five Attacks in Five Days on Christians in Central India


Whereas Pakistan gets all the bad press, india does all the shyti stuff!

Holier-than-thou, eh?

It might turn out to be something like this:
Agra Church attacked by jilted Muslim lover, Media still silent


And then there is something from your very own country:
Pakistan church bombings: Twin blasts kill 15, wound 78 in Lahore - The Times of India


Its you who is living in denial:
Pakistan’s shrinking minority space - The Hindu
EOPM - European Organization of Pakistani Minorities
Obfuscating reality: 'They were killed for being Pakistanis, not minorities' - Blogs - DAWN.COM


I know you are scared of Modi...and his ideas..and that's what we want...exactly. you may call him anything..but he is the strongest prime Minister India has ever had. So much so that thee mere mention of his name makes your generals suirrm in their chairs...

And then there is someone called Ajit Doval.. you guys call him Ajit Devil out of sheer fear.

 

[coffee_cup]

It might turn out to be something like this:
Agra Church attacked by jilted Muslim lover, Media still silent


And then there is something from your very own country:
Pakistan church bombings: Twin blasts kill 15, wound 78 in Lahore - The Times of India


Its you who is living in denial:
Pakistan’s shrinking minority space - The Hindu
EOPM - European Organization of Pakistani Minorities
Obfuscating reality: 'They were killed for being Pakistanis, not minorities' - Blogs - DAWN.COM


I know you are scared of Modi...and his ideas..and that's what we want...exactly. you may call him anything..but he is the strongest prime Minister India has ever had. So much so that thee mere mention of his name makes your generals suirrm in their chairs...

And then there is someone called Ajit Doval.. you guys call him Ajit Devil out of sheer fear.

India’s Christian community under attack by Hindu zealots

Ten months after prime minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) assumed power, many members of India’s minority Christian community are feeling besieged and under attack.

Since last May, seven churches in New Delhi and surrounding areas have been vandalised and two convents attacked. In several instances, Hindu hardline groups linked to the BJP are reportedly responsible for the continuing anti-Christian violence, such as the demolition this month of a Catholic church under construction in northern Haryana state, 175km from Delhi.

The church was levelled and its cross was torn down and replaced with a flag emblazoned with “Shri Ram”, hailing the widely revered Hindu god.


Officials in eastern Bengal state, where a 71-year old nun was gang raped in a convent on March 14th, claimed that fanatical Hindus, waging a campaign to convert Muslims and Christian to Hinduism, were responsible for the crime.

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My dear Annoying Orange, stop beating around the bush. I have never denied the presence of extremists in our society, you might want to read my earlier posts. It was you, who were riding the high horse and playing "holier than thou".

So now, just accept it that you have a serious hindu extremist problem in your society and it needs to be tackled on urgent basis so that peace in the neighborhood might be possible. Come down the high horse and out of this denial.

Do not reward extremists such as Ajit Devil, Swami, Modi etc. Their place is behind bars and not in Prime Minister or National Security office.

Or you will have more Samjhota Expresses, Malegaon, Gujrats etc.

 

[nForce]

India’s Christian community under attack by Hindu zealots

Ten months after prime minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) assumed power, many members of India’s minority Christian community are feeling besieged and under attack.

Since last May, seven churches in New Delhi and surrounding areas have been vandalised and two convents attacked. In several instances, Hindu hardline groups linked to the BJP are reportedly responsible for the continuing anti-Christian violence, such as the demolition this month of a Catholic church under construction in northern Haryana state, 175km from Delhi.

The church was levelled and its cross was torn down and replaced with a flag emblazoned with “Shri Ram”, hailing the widely revered Hindu god.


Officials in eastern Bengal state, where a 71-year old nun was gang raped in a convent on March 14th, claimed that fanatical Hindus, waging a campaign to convert Muslims and Christian to Hinduism, were responsible for the crime.

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My dear Annoying Orange, stop beating around the bush. I have never denied the presence of extremists in our society, you might want to read my earlier posts. It was you, who were riding the high horse and playing "holier than thou".

So now, just accept it that you have a serious hindu extremist problem in your society and it needs to be tackled on urgent basis so that peace in the neighborhood might be possible. Come down the high horse and out of this denial.

Do not reward extremists such as Ajit Devil, Swami, Modi etc. Their place is behind bars and not in Prime Minister or National Security office.

Or you will have more Samjhota Expresses, Malegaon, Gujrats etc.

Hindu extremist problem ? Naah... We used to have communal riots from time to time....We happen to be the most diverse country in the World afterall..And most of these riots were politically motivated..
But, these problems have reduced over the years...It's a country of 1.2 billion..thats about one-fifth of World's population. Secluded incidents don't mean anything..

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

India’s Christian community under attack by Hindu zealots

Ten months after prime minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) assumed power, many members of India’s minority Christian community are feeling besieged and under attack.

Since last May, seven churches in New Delhi and surrounding areas have been vandalised and two convents attacked. In several instances, Hindu hardline groups linked to the BJP are reportedly responsible for the continuing anti-Christian violence, such as the demolition this month of a Catholic church under construction in northern Haryana state, 175km from Delhi.

The church was levelled and its cross was torn down and replaced with a flag emblazoned with “Shri Ram”, hailing the widely revered Hindu god.

Officials in eastern Bengal state, where a 71-year old nun was gang raped in a convent on March 14th, claimed that fanatical Hindus, waging a campaign to convert Muslims and Christian to Hinduism, were responsible for the crime.

I know you will not agree.. but read this: Indian government says church attacks not political| Reuters

My dear Annoying Orange, stop beating around the bush. I have never denied the presence of extremists in our society, you might want to read my earlier posts. It was you, who were riding the high horse and playing "holier than thou".
So now, just accept it that you have a serious hindu extremist problem in your society and it needs to be tackled on urgent basis so that peace in the neighborhood might be possible. Come down the high horse and out of this denial.

I will continue to ride the holier than though high horse till the time the so called Hindu Extreamists are not found carrying AK47 and withSuicide vests around their chests ..waiting to go kaboom and kill the next Non Hindu...the way its happening in your country..

Do not reward extremists such as Ajit Devil, Swami, Modi etc. Their place is behind bars and not in Prime Minister or National Security office. Or you will have more Samjhota Expresses, Malegaon, Gujrats etc.

We will only punish someone if found guilty in court of law... unlike your so called Kangroo court Mullah brigade that goes out and kills innocent non Muslim girl who some people claim committed blasphemy...

Pakistani Christian woman sentenced to death for blasphemy files appeal | World news | The Guardian[/quote]

 

[coffee_cup]

I know you will not agree.. but read this: Indian government says church attacks not political| Reuters

See that is exactly what I was talking about. The whole world have seen and talks about extremist hindus attacking Churches and other minorities but your govt does what it does best - simply deny!

What else would you expect from the govt where the very same extremists are sitting on all the higher posts and your justice system is just a joke anyway.

Even there you will be asking for "evidence".

Reliable eyewitness account, videos, caught terrorists, everything for you is not evidence.

What form of evidence do you really call "EVIDENCE" anyway that would finally lead to conviction of hindu terrorists?

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

See that is exactly what I was talking about. The whole world have seen and talks about extremist hindus attacking Churches and other minorities but your govt does what it does best - simply deny!

What else would you expect from the govt where the very same extremists are sitting on all the higher posts and your justice system is just a joke anyway.

Even there you will be asking for "evidence".

Reliable eyewitness account, videos, caught terrorists, everything for you is not evidence.

What form of evidence do you really call "EVIDENCE" anyway that would finally lead to conviction of hindu terrorists?

The guy arrested..in custody... admitting his crime is not a proof????

Indian government is not a bunch of lairs like your government... For the first time in 18 years India ranks below China in corruption list

 

[coffee_cup]

The guy arrested..in custody... admitting his crime is not a proof????

Yes we have some indian terrorists arrested, in custody and they have admitted their crime as well.

Now will you ask your govt run by extremists to stop terrorism in our country?