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Why India no longer cares about Pakistan's nuclear threats

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For over quarter of a century, Pakistan’s undeclared war on India has centred on two pillars. The first is export of terror. The second is nuclear sabre-rattling. The strategic calculus of the Pakistanis is simple.

The terrorists are pushed into India without any fear of a similar pushback from India. This is so because unlike Pakistan, India doesn’t use terrorists as an instrument of state policy. India’s capacity to hit back using its conventional superiority has been severely constrained by the second pillar of Pakistani policy — nuclear weapons.

Defensive mode

As a result, India has been pushed into a defensive mode. Instead of striking at the terror facilities inside Azad Kashmir, India has been forced to beef up its defences to prevent infiltration of terrorists. Pakistan, on the other hand, has been able to make do with a much smaller number of troops along the LoC, secure in the belief that there will neither be any terrorists coming from the Indian side, nor will India dare to launch a major punitive expedition because of the nuclear threat hanging over its head. At worst, the Indian Army could launch a retaliatory tactical level shallow raid across the LoC, something that has been done on a few occasions in the past 25 years when the provocation by Pakistan crossed the limits of tolerance.

The Pakistani calculus, which worked well for them in the past, could now, however, be in danger of being upended by India. In recent months, two developments suggest that the twin pillars of Pakistani policy might be starting to come under a lot of pressure. The first development was the declared cross-LoC raid carried out by the Indian Army in retaliation for an ambush of an Indian patrol party. While such retaliatory raids had been carried out in the past, they were never declared. But ever since the "Surgical Strikes" in September 2016, India now openly declares these raids. This complicates matters for the Pakistan army which is confronted with a dilemma on how to respond to these declared raids.

As long as India kept quiet about these raids, the Pakistan army could pretend nothing happened. But once these are declared, the Pakistanis can either deny they happened, or else will have to respond. Both options entail risks. Denying means giving India a virtual licence to keep doing these raids; responding, however, means going up the escalation ladder, which is a dangerous proposition especially if India decides it will control escalation dominance. More than deciding whether to deny or respond, what would be rattling the Pakistanis is whether or not such raids are going to become the new normal for the Indian side.

At a time when the Pakistan army is already stretched because of its security commitments on the troubled western front where the Pakistani Taliban are down but not out, and also the involvement of troops in internal security duties against terrorist cells, the last thing the Pakistan army needs is a hot eastern front. India has been steadily ratcheting up the pressure by retaliating very strongly to ceasefire violations by the Pakistanis, something that has inflicted a lot of pain and raised the costs for the Pakistanis.

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Cross-border raids

If now India also starts making cross-border raids a normal feature of its policy of punishing Pakistan, then the latter will have to plug the gaps in its deployments by pulling out troops from internal security duties and from the western front, which in turn will create gaps there and create space for the Pakistani Taliban to re-establish themselves in areas from which the Pakistani troops pull out.

Relations with Pakistan have been going south since the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai. Despite that, India let go of the opportunity offered by the wave of terrorist violence that hit Pakistan from 2007. By heating up Pakistan's eastern front, India could have easily caught Islamabad in a pincer. But the spike in Pakistan-sponsored terrorist violence in J&K since 2016 has all but broken the wall of India’s patience.

The second development is that India is now no longer ready to be cowed down by Pakistan's nuclear sabre-rattling. Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat has made it clear that if given a task by the government, India will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff and cross the border (presumably he means something more than a mere foray across the LoC). This statement has rattled the Pakistanis who reacted somewhat hysterically. A senior military official is quoted as saying the Army chief’s statement was “unwarranted and irrational”.

Irrational game

That Pakistan has played the "irrational" game for so long by threatening a nuclear attack was something that clearly escaped this unnamed official. Since rationality is a subjective thing, irrationality is a game two can play. This became clear when even the Pakistani foreign minister, who along with other politicians has often bandied the nuclear threat at India, called Gen Rawat’s statement “very irresponsible”.

While the Pakistanis have dared India to try Pakistan’s resolve, they know that if what Gen Rawat said is now Indian policy, then it signals the end of deterrence as conceived by them. In the words of the Pakistan military spokesman, the only thing that had stopped India for so long was Pakistan's "credible nuclear deterrence". But if India no longer considers Pakistani nuclear threats credible, then what happens to Pakistan's deterrence doctrine?

The fact that India has already injected some ambiguity in its "no first use" posture with senior officials claiming in interviews and in their books that India would not allow Pakistan to strike first with nuclear weapons (which effectively means pre-empting Pakistan’s use of nuclear weapons), certainly complicates Pakistan’s strategic calculus which has been built on bleeding India through proxy warfare from behind the safety of its nuclear shield.

It is possible that India is merely playing mind games with the Pakistanis. Even if this is the case, given that cross-LoC raids have been declared, coupled with the Modi government’s ability and capacity for taking risks, means that the Pakistanis will have to go back to the drawing board and re-think their strategic calculus. Not doing so could prove extremely expensive and dangerous for them.

https://www.dailyo.in/politics/paki...-bipin-rawat-narendra-modi/story/1/22163.html



Please don't respond to the article. It is by an indian therefore it is worthless, meaningless, completely irrelevant, complete lies and falsehoods. Carry on with your lives people.
 
Please don't respond to the article. It is by an indian therefore it is worthless, meaningless, completely irrelevant, complete lies and falsehoods. Carry on with your lives people.
I just posted it to show the funny analysis. Nothing more its a trollish low quality article. Point was to show indian desperation that they are using imaginary surgical strikes drama as a reason to claim pakistans nuclear threat has been neutralized.
 
Indians are forgetting that other than our nuclear missiles
India would keep claiming AJK & GB . Now it is up to Pakistan to decide if it wants to save CPEC by settling the Kashmir issue or keep supporting the insurgency in Kashmir at the expense of CPEC. The choices could not be any clearer.
Don’t worry about CPEC, shouldn’t be your concern. Your concern should be how to provide toilet to ordinary Indian.
Anyways... India is already surrounded by China. It’s time for India to decide to resolve and demilitarize Kashmir or go for full fledge war. For what I know from ground realities in kashmir, option 1 is much more suitable for India. As Kashmir is Pakistan’s army killing ground. No disrespect!! But we eat your cow mata for dinner. Imagine what Pak army will do to you.

Reminder.. Nukes aawaien nahi banayee
 
Indians are forgetting that other than our nuclear missiles

Don’t worry about CPEC, shouldn’t be your concern. Your concern should be how to provide toilet to ordinary Indian.
Anyways... India is already surrounded by China. It’s time for India to decide to resolve and demilitarize Kashmir or go for full fledge war. For what I know from ground realities in kashmir, option 1 is much more suitable for India. As Kashmir is Pakistan’s army killing ground. No disrespect!! But we eat your cow mata for dinner. Imagine what Pak army will do to you.

Reminder.. Nukes aawaien nahi banayee


ok we AGREE

NO go back to your Cave
 
And Pakistan will not give up it's claim on Jammu and Kashmir either.


Kashmir is disputed territory. Now don't be a hypocrite. The CPEC is going on our side of the LOC, not yours. It is our land, and not yours.

Good then. Pakistan can continue to its support to Kashmir insurgency at the expense of CPEC. I know CPEC is on the other side of LOC but it is LOC not IB. That is the point. You can either settle the issue when India is obliged to respect the IB or keep it as LOC and leave the door open for India to step in at the time of its choosing. Time is on India's side. The more it gets delayed the better for India as the gap between India and Pakistan is bound to get widened with time.
 
Good then. Pakistan can continue to its support to Kashmir insurgency at the expense of CPEC. I know CPEC is on the other side of LOC but it is LOC not IB. That is the point. You can either settle the issue when India is obliged to respect the IB or keep it as LOC and leave the door open for India to step in at the time of its choosing. Time is on India's side. The more it gets delayed the better for India as the gap between India and Pakistan is bound to get widened with time.

CPEC strengthens Pakistan's position on Kashmir. Pakistan is tightening its grip on Kashmir. It actually is Pakistan that has time on its side. Pakistan is winning the game here.

China even took a piece of Kashmir from you Indians in 1962. lol. :lol:

Pakistan can also step into Jammu and Kashmir at its choosing as well. :lol:

India cannot dare to step into Gilgit-Baltistan or Azad Kashmir unless they want to be killed. :lol:
 
So when did that happen? Please provide a credible and reliable source. That excludes indian sources. By the same token I could argue that Pakistani's BAT has come into indian territory and executed countless indian soldiers, beheading them on many occasions yet india was too weak too fight back despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan.

The fact remains that despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan and having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege, india continues to remain too weak, powerless and incapable of fighting Pakistan. Making conjectures in the net proves nothing and is meaningless. If and when india ever becomes powerful enough to actually destroy Pakistan then come and talk. All else is simply retarded, delusional fantasies.


And as for the being India being too weak to fight Pakistan. It took Indian just 13 days to capture half of your country while fighting on two fronts, as well keeping a watchful eye on the third front.

You mistake resolve for peaceful coexistence for cowardice. If India wanted, it could have finished Pakistan off in 70s itself. From 1974 to 1998 India had tested functional nuclear weapons in its arsenal and Pakistan had nothing to defend against it.

Pakistani BAT operations are small scale ops just few hundred meters into Indians territory usually on the forward posts or opportunistic attacks on patrol parties. To which India has responded in kind inflilicting larger number of cassualties.

Surgical strikes were different, They were simultaneously launched on multiple targets, at times infiltrating a few kms into Pakistani territory. But most importantly India owned up to surgical strikes. In the past Pakistan never owned up to any of its BAT operations or India to its reprisal actions.

But here India was openly challenging Pakistan..hey Pakistan, we came into your country, we killed your people..what are you gonna do about it. And as expected Pakistan did nothing. Any country with minutest of self respect would have taken up the challenge.
 
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Indians are forgetting that other than our nuclear missiles

Don’t worry about CPEC, shouldn’t be your concern. Your concern should be how to provide toilet to ordinary Indian.
Anyways... India is already surrounded by China. It’s time for India to decide to resolve and demilitarize Kashmir or go for full fledge war. For what I know from ground realities in kashmir, option 1 is much more suitable for India. As Kashmir is Pakistan’s army killing ground. No disrespect!! But we eat your cow mata for dinner. Imagine what Pak army will do to you.

Reminder.. Nukes aawaien nahi banayee

China has always been India's neighbor and its support to Pakistan is not new either.

Why should India go for full fledged war? the current status quo works very well.
 
And as for the being India being too weak to fight Pakistan. It took Indian just 13 days to capture half of your country while fighting on two fronts, as well keeping a watchful eye on the third front.

You mistake resolve for peaceful coexistence for cowardice. If India wanted, it could have finished Pakistan off in 70s itself. From 1974 to 1998 India had tested functional nuclear weapons in its arsenal and Pakistan had nothing to defend against it.
East Pakistan is not half the country you retard.

East Pakistan was slightly bugger than Sindh province.

Losing East Pakistan was a blessing in disguise. We lost a lot of poverty that way.
 
China has always been India's neighbor and its support to Pakistan is not new either.

Why should India go for full fledged war? the current status quo works very well.

I guess dispatching your soldiers into next life working for you.

We want rest of the Kashmir so we can unite with our families across LOC and take back our land that you’ve occupied. One way or another it’s gonn lead to full fledged war.
 
Does it make any difference ? Or are you implying that it takes over 500 million indians, 100 million bengalis to surround 50,000 Pakistani soldiers and 40,000 members of their families who are 3000 kms from Pakistan in order to defeat them? Then you have indirectly explained why india remains far too weak, powerless and incapable of fighting Pakistan for 47 years despite being more than 7x bigger than us and having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege.

PS August the 14th 1947 happened and was only possible because india had been destroyed and conquered militarily many years earlier.

Partition was politics, nothing to do with the military. India may have been destroyed and conquered in the past, but that has no relation to partition. You forget that India is a WW2 winner.

The 1971 war was a one-sided massacre. So that will simply be repeated again.

In fact it will be easier. In 1971, India fought West Pakistan, kept the PLA at bay, prepared to intercept the USN fleet and conquered East Pakistan, all at the same time. That's basically 4 fronts we had to take care of, which means our military resources had to be split between 4 regions. Today, in any Indo-Pak war, we only really have to worry about 1 front.

During that time, West Pakistan had access to nearly double the resources because they controlled East Pakistan. Now Pakistan is nowhere near capable of challenging India in any field.
 
CPEC strengthens Pakistan's position on Kashmir. Pakistan is tightening its grip on Kashmir. It actually is Pakistan that has time on its side. Pakistan is winning the game here.

China even took a piece of Kashmir from you Indians in 1962. lol. :lol:

Pakistan can also step into Jammu and Kashmir at its choosing as well. :lol:

India cannot dare to step into Gilgit-Baltistan or Azad Kashmir unless they want to be killed. :lol:

Nope. India would have the liberty when to increase or decrease the heat on CPEC across LOC. Why do you think China is so keen on impressing upon India to join CPEC and putting pressure on Pakistan to settle the issue with India.
 

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