Talks will not achieve anything I see no reason except US pressure.
So why succumb to it? Stick to your guns.
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Talks will not achieve anything I see no reason except US pressure.
The fact is that you have no other choice. The jazbaati talk of complete and total isolation is something that you and your compatriots can ill-afford. As has been suggested here, heinousness of atrocities is relative. After all the two countries talked even though you invaded Pakistan and dismembered our country.
So in the scheme of things, life goes on whether you like it or not. You stand to lose more by not talking.
So why succumb to it? Stick to your guns.
Still holds true my friend.. Talking to pakistan does diddly squat to compromise India's interests. I am sure at this time it is in India's interest and thats why these talks are happening. Otherwise Pakistan has been asking for these for last 14 months.. Just wait and watch the magic
You are overly optimistic if you think that Indian interests are going to come out unscathed and that too at Pakistan's expense.
Someone suggested a US-EU-Indian master plan that is in the works and will defang Pakistan etc. etc...all I can say is that this is all wishful thinking. Pakistan is not the only country being impacted by all the moves the US is making and India is trying to align with.
The fact of the matter is that there cannot be a peaceful Afghanistan and India if Pakistan is made to pay for safeguarding their interests. This has never worked in the past and it will not work in the future.
War is eminent and only a real blow can teach Pakistan to change its behavior!
Still holds true my friend.. Talking to pakistan does diddly squat to compromise India's interests. I am sure at this time it is in India's interest and thats why these talks are happening. Otherwise Pakistan has been asking for these for last 14 months.. Just wait and watch the magic
Yes, that is why Pakistan is training terrorists to filter into India and fight in-disguise.
You are claiming we can ill-afford the complete and total isolation? Can you tell me any benefits of this talk?
History has shown that Pakistan attacks India when it wants to negotiate. Kargil was a good example where your democratically elected PM signed peace deal with India and your army ...oops did i say that right? the Mujahadeen "freedom fighters" occupied Indian vacated outposts!
What is the point in talking with Pakistan? It will never change and I am not sure whether it can ever change!
On the eve of so-called peaceful negotations, JuD is negotiating how and where to attack India and infact your government cannot find proof! Dont you feel when you lie atleast give some time for people so that they could forget the events. These meetings are reported in newspapers and pictures can be taken, yet unfortunately GoP cannot find them nor could it can find any evidence.
Pakistan keep allowing its soil to allow terrorists to take a swipe at India and Congress is talking that negotiations can start! I can understand the great "Aman ki Asha" team whose major members are:
* Mahesh Bhatt - whose son was helping Headley.
* Amitabh Bachan - who is sponsoring Modi for Gujarat's image.
What happened to people arrested by GoP? Does any sane person either in India or in Pakistan believe that they would get prosecuted?
What benefit India can ever achieve with having any relation with Pakistan. I completely agree with vsdoc, karan and gogot that there is no point talking to Pakistan, rather than wasting time and money spending on travel and negotiating, add fences and give that money to defense.
War is eminent and only a real blow can teach Pakistan to change its behavior!
Its not composite dialogue as Pakistan's wish.
Interesting. Assuming that you are referring to a real war and not just the exchange of pleasantries across the LoC, by when do you think this "eminent[sic] war" will occur? If it truly is imminent, I suppose you are talking a year or less? Well, this forum has been around for a long time, so what say we mark up our calendars and come back here in a year, then two years and see if your prediction came to pass.
I'll put my 2 cents in also. I think you are dead wrong. Pakistan is immune to Indian military moves and this has been proven time and time again... 2002, Mumbai etc. etc. India understands that it cannot attack Pakistan without bringing about the destruction of the entire sub continent. So, assuming Purohit or his ilk don't come to power in Delhi, this will prevent a logical Indian regime from going to war with Pakistan.
Again. Let's just come back to this thread in a year and see. We have plenty of time.
The fact is that you have no other choice. The jazbaati talk of complete and total isolation is something that you and your compatriots can ill-afford. As has been suggested here, heinousness of atrocities is relative. After all the two countries talked even though you invaded Pakistan and dismembered our country.
total isolation of india?
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Its not composite dialogue as Pakistan's wish.
Are you asking when the war will occur? History gives the answer. Take a look at it:
Kashmir war: Pakistan regular and irregular forces attacked Kashmir. Kashmir's King acceded to India and hence the war started
1965 war: Macho army attacked India first (Operation Gibraltar) and hence the war started.
1971 war: Pakistan AF attacked Indian airports on Bangladeshi side using the doctrine of offensive-defense and then the war started.
Kargil war: Pakistan army occupied vacated Indian outposts at Kargil and hence the war started.
So, if history had been any guide, it shows that Macho army decides when, where and what time, the war would start.
My feeling is that may be whenever Zardari and Gilani gets toppled. It can happen anytime when your military chief decides! Even an order to oust the military chief would suffice for the military to provide the distraction and blame it on India (like their famous blame of TTP on India ... haha)
My contention is that whenever Pakistan decides to go to war, the war settlement should happen after a nice punch by Indian army.
Thanks but we seen you taking tiny things out of your diplomatic pants before in the garb for talks! So nothing is new for us really! YAAAWWWNN!!!
So, if history had been any guide, it shows that Macho army decides when, where and what time, the war would start.
My feeling is that may be whenever Zardari and Gilani gets toppled. It can happen anytime when your military chief decides! Even an order to oust the military chief would suffice for the military to provide the distraction and blame it on India (like their famous blame of TTP on India ... haha)
My contention is that whenever Pakistan decides to go to war, the war settlement should happen after a nice punch by Indian army.