Why Imran Khan is the best thing to happen for India from Pakistan

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Pajeets think they can play this reverse psychology and nobody would notice but deep down IK made them shit their pants and its very obvious. They have a major inferiority complex with Imran. He makes these midget dark skinned bobble heads understand their place in the pecking order.

Pakistan always finds a way to shoot itself in the foot, IK should have been utilised properly to mog them into oblivion. The egos of the army boys was more important than the mog of a lifetime on India. Those 3 years were fun, pajeets were like this the whole way

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Bharati Hindutva expanded their agenda during Imran's reign.

Don't confuse individual reactions with the state, winning a battle doesn't mean winning a war.

A state the size of India has no real fear from Pakistan and is also ahead of Pakistan in most of the indicators which matter.

 

[Cheepek]

It's a no brainer, any Indian who keeps an eye on Pakistan would say the same. Best thing for India in decades, want him back asap.

 

[Trango Towers]

Bharati Hindutva expanded their agenda during Imran's reign.

Don't confuse individual reactions with the state, winning a battle doesn't mean winning a war.

A state the size of India has no real fear from Pakistan and is also ahead of Pakistan in most of the indicators which matter.

What does your open defication indicator state? Way ahead right!

 

[Rank]

He was the same guy who said, 'Nawaz Sharif is best for India.' Our government (GOI) lawyers have used NS's statements against Pakistan in our favor in ICIJ. NS statements made our case strong. The clip is still available on youtube.

 

[Edevelop]

deep down IK made them shit their pants and its very obvious.

Looool he fckd you on the 26 and 27th Feb 2019

As if IK was flying an F-16 firing AIM-120s on SU-30s and Mig-21.... If IK really was involved in military and political affairs maybe you guys can answer why Abihnandan was freed, how India revoked Kashmir's status and under the same watchful eye how the fck did a Brahmos missile manage to land on Pakistani soil and what response was given?

 

[Olympus81]

Pakistan’s foreign ministry like its other institution has been in continuous decline for a few decades.

I wouldn’t blame PMLN PPP or PTI for it. Blame goes directly to the establishment here. Their short term thinking and focusing on being a subservient client state is why Pakistan is in this situation.

Afghanistan policy is a failure. Apart from fencing there has been no positive moves. Are the Taliban good or bad? TTP good or bad? Terrorist attacks continue despite US withdrawal. Before that establishment was involved knee deep in $ for drone strikes that killed massive number of innocent people on Pakistan’s side. Only good thing that came out of it was that it enriched alot of Generals.

Pakistan is completely sidelined by powers when it comes to dealing with Afghanistan. Even US Taliban discussions take place in Qatar.

Kashmir policy is a fail. You had Diesel in Kashmir committee. That says alot. Meanwhile the establishment thought sending in fighters inside IoK will have no blowback. It could have stopped and the heat could have continued on India diplomatically but now you’ve lost that initiative as well considering your regime change operation and people refuse to further your narrative. Revoking Kashmir status was a culmination of India increasing in confidence and Pakistan going down the shithole. It was a few decades of f-ckups that led to this.

I won’t comment on pitch battles that happened in Balakot. Few planes downed on Indian side doesn’t mean the tide has turned. I’d say the gap between India and Pakistan will grow even further and the Indians will make even more belligerent moves in the future. Moves like annexing IoK altogether and use Taliban to launch proxies into Pakistan.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

It's a no brainer, any Indian who keeps an eye on Pakistan would say the same. Best thing for India in decades, want him back asap.

Most Indians, who have been following Pakistani politics for decades, will wish him well in the upcoming election.

He is the ideal candidate from an Indian viewpoint. As anticipated, Bilawal Butto and the Sharif family 100% follow the establishment. Imran Khan, however, can make some 5–10% decisions on his own which would be beneficial for India.

Otherwise, nothing will change if the military institution continues to take decisions, and improved outcomes cannot be anticipated. These tense situations suit to PAK military establishment, and the Pakistani military has created a fake assumption and hype that India is most dangerous for Pakistan's security after independence and became supreme in Pakistan.

Since independence, only the PAK military establishment has made all decisions about its relationship with India.

 

[FuturePAF]

Pakistan has a well balanced foreign policy now. It’s probably the only country that has maintained neutral relations with US, China and Russia and we have built closer relations with Arabs and Turks as well. We have Russian engines and choppers, American and Chinese warplanes. Which country has the luxury to do that?

Youtiyas like you are brainless. Ego without a reason, ego without something in hand. BTW if IMF is that bad then why did IK go to IMF while he was in power? LOL

IK didn’t want to go to the IMF for the first 9 months of his term until he was told by “them” he had to.

IK objected to the hidden term and agreements made with everyone, which we all knew the country has not been set up to sustainably pay back.

New agreements are being made which we are being told not to question or ask about. What the actual interest rates or sovereign guarantees being agreed upon that the public will have to honor in a few short years.

I’m not against CPEC. Far from it, but it has to have a plan for sustainability. We badly need ML-1 but also a deal with the afghans to maximize the transit trade and recoup our investments.

I will grant you that IK’s off the cuff remarks should not have been made and his statements, especially on foreign policy should have been vetted before they were made. No one takes the current elected government seriously, not even the Talibs. China just sent the vice premier not even the premier let alone President Xi on the 10th anniversary of CPEC, flagship of BRI.

Btw, We have had these aircraft from all three nations for decades.

The Indian commentator (whom I think works for ORF and use to work for R&AW), is going to build a narrative based on our division. If Pakistan continues adrift the way it is now, this Indian maybe proved true but if we close ranks and accept we need to invest in ourselves we can grow out of our mess, then can prove his predictions false.

You may not like IK, many of his recent supporters (since his ouster) don’t like him either, but want a leader that has a long term vision for growth and social services on domestic funding not unsustainable borrowing.

As @Meengla has said in another thread, he would be more supportive of PTI if someone like Asad Umar was in charge. Is it really the PTI Vision or is it IK you feel is beyond the pale?

 

[nahtanbob]

Imran Khan was good for India in the short run with all the political havoc involving him. I personally don't think he created any mayhem. The current structure in Pakistan does not benefit anyone except a small elite.

But in the long run both Pakistan and India will benefit if the political power in Pakistan moved from the elite towards the middle class. A Pakistani government that has to deliver economic benefits for middle class is less likely to be militaristic.

 

[Riz]

Indian Pajeets celebrating along with Pakistani foujeets :
samjh to gay ho gay ? In dono countries fouj ki gandd ma khan na danda day rakha ha

 

[SaadH]

Pajeets think they can play this reverse psychology and nobody would notice but deep down IK made them shit their pants and its very obvious. They have a major inferiority complex with Imran. He makes these midget dark skinned bobble heads understand their place in the pecking order.

Pakistan always finds a way to shoot itself in the foot, IK should have been utilised properly to mog them into oblivion. The egos of the army boys was more important than the mog of a lifetime on India. Those 3 years were fun, pajeets were like this the whole way

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I wish army boys had ego, but they are mental and literal slaves of their colonial masters and that was the only reason to oust IK.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

What does your open defication indicator state? Way ahead right!

Yes. India is way bigger and way ahead, always was and will be. Modi, Yogi, or not. Plus, Pakistan is short-sighted like Arab states. Good at starting wars, bad at winning them.

Surprisingly, Pakistanis think Pakistan is a competitor with India. Must be the two-nation ideology which means Pakistan needs India for its identity. Not just India, but Hindu India.

 

[Edevelop]

IK didn’t want to go to the IMF for the first 9 months of his term until he was told by “them” he had to.

IK objected to the hidden term and agreements made with everyone, which we all knew the country has not been set up to sustainably pay back.

New agreements are being made which we are being told not to question or ask about. What the actual interest rates or sovereign guarantees being agreed upon that the public will have to honor in a few short years.

I’m not against CPEC. Far from it, but it has to have a plan for sustainability. We badly need ML-1 but also a deal with the afghans to maximize the transit trade and recoup our investments.

I will grant you that IK’s off the cuff remarks should not have been made and his statements, especially on foreign policy should have been vetted before they were made. No one takes the current elected government seriously, not even the Talibs. China just sent the vice premier not even the premier let alone President Xi on the 10th anniversary of CPEC, flagship of BRI.

Btw, We have had these aircraft from all three nations for decades.

The Indian commentator (whom I think works for ORF and use to work for R&AW), is going to build a narrative based on our division. If Pakistan continues adrift the way it is now, this Indian maybe proved true but if we close ranks and accept we need to invest in ourselves we can grow out of our mess, then can prove his predictions false.

You may not like IK, many of his recent supporters (since his ouster) don’t like him either, but want a leader that has a long term vision for growth and social services on domestic funding not unsustainable borrowing.

As @Meengla has said in another thread, he would be more supportive of PTI if someone like Asad Umar was in charge. Is it really the PTI Vision or is it IK you feel is beyond the pale?

I was once a supporter of PTI in the early days and I literally witnessed Imran delivering speeches to empty chairs Those were the days when visionary people like Hamid Khan and Akbar S Babar had prominent roles. If you want my opinion, Imran doesn't have the stars to keep relationships around him for long. He is a selfish prick who likes to use people. I know a lot of people who knew him personally and all I will say is he is absolutely toxic.

I'm pretty sure Imran knew what he got himself into when Fawad Chaudhary, Tareen, Pervez Elahi, Sheikh Rasheed, Shafqat Mehmood, Shah Mehmood, etc came much later. They were all either ex PPP or ex PML-Q and establishment lotas. As for Assad Umar he is the most incompetent person you will ever know. I know few people who worked with him in Engro and they say he nearly brought the company to the brinks. I was not surprised to see him get fired few months into his job as the finance minister as he must be doing something wrong again.

You may hate PML-N but fact is its members are extremely loyal. They have gone to jail many times from dictatorship days to project Imran days. People like Ahsan Iqbal, Khawaja Asif, Khawaja Saad Rafique, Rana Sanullah, Pervez Rasheed, Rana Tanveer, Ayaz Sadiq, Khurram Dastaghir, etc are not family members and they have been there for decades. This is what keeps the party going. At least PPP has a history of being a socialist / left party and PML-N a centre-right party having support of business community but I never understood what PTI is all about.

Speaking of vision, each time Ahsan Iqbal came as a planning minister he created vision 2010, 2020 and 2030. He is an educated and well respected guy who no one could raise a finger on. It's unfortunate that his government was not allowed to witness a complete tenure. Everyone knows he is the brainchild of CPEC's planning. It has been 10 years since its launch and of the 10 JCC meetings he was part of 9 in 4 years from 2013-2017. The question is after he left why was this project slowed down and why has it picked up so rapidly in 1 year that it could not in PTI's almost 4 years?

No one wants to go to IMF. Even the current government tried its best not to go. Unless and until there are structural reforms they will keep making trips. I could be wrong but I have high hopes this time around. Since the military is on board it appears they have realized its a now or a never situation.

 

[FuturePAF]

I was once a supporter of PTI in the early days and I literally witnessed Imran delivering speeches to empty chairs Those were the days when visionary people like Hamid Khan and Akbar S Babar had prominent roles. If you want my opinion, Imran doesn't have the stars to keep relationships around him for long. He is a selfish prick who likes to use people. I know a lot of people who knew him personally and all I will say is he is absolutely toxic.

I'm pretty sure Imran knew what he got himself into when Fawad Chaudhary, Tareen, Pervez Elahi, Sheikh Rasheed, Shafqat Mehmood, Shah Mehmood, etc and all the others came much later. They were all either ex PPP or ex PML-Q and establishment lotas. As for Assad Umar he is the most incompetent person you will ever know. I know few people who worked with him in Engro and they say he nearly brought the company to the brinks. I was not surprised to see him get fired few months into his job as the finance minister.

You may hate PML-N but fact is its members are extremely loyal. They have gone to jail many times from dictatorship days to project Imran days. People like Ahsan Iqbal, Khawaja Asif, Khawaja Saad Rafique, Rana Sanullah, Pervez Rasheed, Rana Tanveer, Ayaz Sadiq, Khurram Dastaghir, etc are not family members and they have been there for decade and they will go to any limits to keep the party in tact.

Speaking of vision, each time Ahsan Iqbal came as a planning minister he created vision 2010, 2020 and 2030. He is an educated and well respected guy who worked really hard. It's unfortunate that his government was not allowed to witness a complete tenure. Everyone knows he is the brainchild of CPEC's planning. It has been 10 years since its launch and of the 10 JCC meetings he was part of 9 in 4 years from 2013-2017. The question is why was this project slowed and why has it picked up so rapidly in 1 year that it could not in PTI's almost 4 years?

No one wants to go to IMF. Even the current government tried its best not to go. Unless and until there are structural reforms they will keep making trips and this includes every government

I don’t hate PML-N, I actually tried to convince them to focus on the Pakistan flood control system when they were in power, because I thought they would take it seriously (I literally tried to chase down Nawaz Sharif’s limo in NY when he came to give a speech at the UN general assembly to get him to see the presentation). I knew a major flood would come soon enough and we weren’t prepared. The flood last year proved beyond my worst fears.

Pakistan Flood Control System

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But their government has been in power multiple times and failed to deliver on reforms to make the country’s growth sustainable. PTI came in talking about building dams and social spending.

The only reason PTI became popular, amongst the people, was the people were disillusioned with the main two parties.

Let’s suppose PML-N wins the next election, will they carry out the hard and unpopular reforms you and me both agree the nation needs. Impose heavy taxation on the elites and close the $18 billion per year gap between what the country export and what the country imports, so that the finances decisions of the nation can be made within the country and not by outside institutions and powers? We are current at a $100 billion in foreign debt set to go to $150 billion in a year. We can’t keep burdening the nation with unsustainable debt.

 

[Trango Towers]

Yes. India is way bigger and way ahead, always was and will be. Modi, Yogi, or not. Plus, Pakistan is short-sighted like Arab states. Good at starting wars, bad at winning them.

Surprisingly, Pakistanis think Pakistan is a competitor with India. Must be the two-nation ideology which means Pakistan needs India for its identity. Not just India, but Hindu India.

Loool yet your news cannot function with out pakistan. Your bollywood movies cannot sell without pakistan. Your elections cannot be fought without pakistan and even your communal violence cannot be conducted without pakistan.
My open deficator as yiu have admitted you still shit in the open way more than anyone I suggest u address the toilet issues 1st b4 talking shit on the net.

Regarding wars. Pakistan was taken and carved out of India after at least a 1000 years of Muslim rule over India. So suck on that and enjoy it. That's why your modi yogi and all the other urine drinkers have aspirations of greater India but reality is you get your *** raped as you did in the last interaction.

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