Why don’t Western Countries see China as a Democratic Country, but the Chinese think It Is

[Beny Karachun]

800,000 people lost their lives in democratic US due to the Covid. If China has the same political system like US, 3,200,000 people would have died considering China's population is 4 times larger than US. And Chinese GDP per capita is only 1/6 of Americans. The number should be bigger.

Some anti-China members said CCP killed tens millions of Chinese. There is no proof for it. CCP indirectly saved 3.2M lives. There are data supporting that.

I really, really doubt those COVID statistics.
No country had just one COVID wave besides China, it's as if the vaccines and the Delta variant had absolutely no effect on China.

 

[Piotr]

You take away the rights of the people to oppose, it is not democracy. This is logical. Single party rule system with no rights to form opposition party or a competing party is political dictatorship. Nobody truthful can call it democracy.

In England and Australia unelected Elizabeth Windsor is a Head of State. President Xi is elected leader. Australia is not a democracy. Not to mention that Australia was build on the graves of Natives. Ruling Windsors commited genocide in what is now "Australia".

 

[beijingwalker]

If it is not true, you should freely be able to say communist party in China is overrated. Can you? I can say about any party in the West that they are overrated.

What do you mean "overrated‘ Many people in China do say that China is not a true communist country, but it comes to another argument about who can have the final say on what true communism is.

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I really, really doubt those COVID statistics.
No country had just one COVID wave besides China, it's as if the vaccines and the Delta variant had absolutely no effect on China.

This is why the government does this, the virus is just so rare and almost non existent.

Chinese City Offers $1,500 to Residents Who Report Positive Test for Covid-19

China is still one of the few countries pursuing an elimination strategy for covid-19.

gizmodo.com

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

What do you mean "overrated‘ Many people in China do say that China is not a true communist country, but it comes to another argument about who can have the final say on what true communism is.

It is a test for your political freedom. Can you freely say Chinese communist party is overrated. You cannot. You have a fear of punishment. So you are not a democracy. In a democracy, I can freely say about a ruling political party that they are overrated.

In England and Australia unelected Elizabeth Windsor is a Head of State. President Xi is elected leader. Australia is not a democracy. Not to mention that Australia was build on the graves of Natives. Ruling Windsors commited genocide in what is now "Australia".

Australia freely chooses to have the Queen as its symbolic head of state. It can choose not to have the Queen as its head of state. I will never argue any country is a perfect democracy with no room for improvement when it comes to political freedoms and rights.

 

[beijingwalker]

It is a test for your political freedom. Can you freely say Chinese communist party is overrated. You cannot. You have a fear of punishment. So you are not a democracy. In a democracy, I can freely say about a ruling political party that they are overrated.

I still don't know what do you mean "overrated", if you are talking about mocking the government, it happens in every country, but they don't have to be productive at all.

China Nationalists Mock Government Inaction Over U.S. Visit to Taiwan

China's state-owned media outlets were flooded with comments by unsatisfied Weibo users this week. This follows reports of the government's response to Sunday's visit to Taipei by three U.S. senators.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I still don't know what do you mean "overrated", if you are talking about mocking the government, it happens in every country, but they don't have to be productive at all.

China Nationalists Mock Government Inaction Over U.S. Visit to Taiwan

China's state-owned media outlets were flooded with comments by unsatisfied Weibo users this week. This follows reports of the government's response to Sunday's visit to Taipei by three U.S. senators.

www.newsweek.com

Who are you kidding. You cannot form a political party to compete against the communist party in China.

 

[beijingwalker]

Who are you kidding. You cannot form a political party to compete against the communist party in China.

I never said we can, what said it?

 

[Piotr]

Australia freely chooses to have the Queen as its symbolic head of state. It can choose not to have the Queen as its head of state. I will never argue any country is a perfect democracy with no room for improvement when it comes to political freedoms and rights.

"Freely" like Assange ?

And of course you ignore the fact that Australia is the result of genocide. Give land back to Natives and go back to England to your Windsors.

 

[beijingwalker]

We Chinese also wonder why UK still has Queens and Kings, but we don't mock them and ask Brits to remove them even we feel it's very strange in 21 century. This is right attitude towards foreign countries and cultures when you don't really understand.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

"Freely" like Assange ?
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In a dictatorship he would have been dead by now. I sympathize with him but fact is he is in trouble because he leaked classified national security documents.

 

[beijingwalker]

We Chinese also wonder why UK still has Queens and Kings, but we don't mock them and ask Brits to remove them even we feel it's very strange in 21 century. This is right attitude towards foreign countries and cultures when you don't really understand.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I never said we can, what said it?

So you are not a democracy. You want to deny political freedoms and call it a democracy at the same time. That is not possible.

 

[beijingwalker]

So you are not a democracy. You want to deny political freedoms and call it a democracy at the same time. That is not possible.

It depends on different countries and cultures interpreting democracy in different ways, for example, can British people have the power to get rid of your kings and queens, why swearing allegiance to them are still required in many occasion? Why they are born with privilege? at least in Chinese constitution, it states all humans are born equal, we don't accept speical birth rights.

 

[beijingwalker]

The best of this video is the comment section, check out what foreign expats who do or did live in China think of China, not from vicious China bashing western media with reports written by those who have never left their offices in New York city.

Why more than half of all foreigners who live in China end up living here for more than 5 years?

Why more than half of all foreigners who live in China end up living here for more than 5 years? The best of this video is the comment section, check out what foreign expats who do or did live in China think of China, not from vicious China bashing western media with reports written by those...

defence.pk

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

It depends on different countries and cultures interpreting democracy in different ways, for example, can British people have the power to get rid of your kings and queens, why swearing allegiance to them are still required in many occasion? Why they are born with privilege? at least in Chinese constitution, it states all humans are born equal, we don't accept speical birth rights.

The British people can choose to end the royal family system if they wish. You have no such freedom to end communist party rule without getting crushed by tanks.