Why does Pakistan have an affinity for Turkey?

[Imad.Khan]

When did I mention love for Chinese?

Usually Pakistanis idealize Mughals and Delhi Sultanate.

Why should Pakistanis idealize some other countries?

The joke is on you.


Pakistanis on the streets in Pakistan and expatriates usually think of Mughal glories and Delhi Sultanate.

That is what Pakistanis identify with.

Not some country in Middle East.

These losers what to be like others when we already have a rich heritage of our own.


Exactly the Turkish republic was anti-religion after the Turkish war of independence.

When will the stupid Pakistani Middle Eastern wannabes ever learn?

Pakistanis identify with Mughals and Delhi Sultanate.

That was when we had an empire of our own and a culture we could identify with.

Pakistanis identify with:

Sindhi Beef Briyani:

Gulab Jamun:

Jinnah cap:

@waz ban this thread, its rubbish. Pakistanis love nobody but themselves.

Mate your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Please do some research before posting things

1. Who were the Moghuls?
2. Who created the Delhi Sultanate?
3. Jinnah Cap is actually called a Karakul, guess the origin's of this hat

The answer to all the above questions is Turkic.

 

[Beast]

Ataturk was just like Khomeini he used religion to get support from the so called Muslims but after he established the republic he allied turkey with the west and wipe out most of the Islamic identity in turkey

Khomeini on the other hand he used the religion and nationalism to get the leftists communist,librals and nationalists who were all naive and foolish to supported him and the first things he did after taking other was forbidding the freedom and democracy and called nationalism jahili ideology


When the Pakistanis were supporting ataturk they thought they were supporting Islam without knowing the true intentions of the Turks. They didn’t know that the region was filled with westernized secular nationalism and the ideology of pan islamic ideology was long dead

Indeed but if turkey do not remain secular. They will be bar from western Europe assistance and financial support.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Wow, I am impressed you know quite a bit of South Asian politics.

Yes I heard bad things about Dostum. Hmph.

All this bullshit about Turkic is all nonsense.

Central Asian Muslims have nothing in common with Anatolian Turks.

They are a completely different peoples.

Where do you think the Anatolian Turks came from?

 

[SALMAN F]

Indeed but if turkey do not remain secular. They will be bar from western Europe assistance and financial support.

Erdo is double faced hypocrate who use the Islamic face with Arabs,Balkan Muslims, and South Asia muslims at the same time he uses the secular liberal face with Israel and the west

 

[MultaniGuy]

Mate your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Please do some research before posting things

1. Who were the Moghuls?
2. Who created the Delhi Sultanate?
3. Jinnah Cap is actually called a Karakul, guess the origin's of this hat

The answer to all the above questions is Turkic.

What is embarrassing is your amount of knowledge.

Mughals and Delhi Sultanate were people from Central Asia like Uzbeks, but not Anatolian Turks.

Anyways...

Mate your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Please do some research before posting things

1. Who were the Moghuls?
2. Who created the Delhi Sultanate?
3. Jinnah Cap is actually called a Karakul, guess the origin's of this hat

The answer to all the above questions is Turkic.

Mughals were started by Uzbeks Babur.

Probably I am more knowledgeable than you are @Imad.Khan

Don't go to wikipedia when studying history its full of nonsense.

Go to Britannica encyclopedia instead.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Where do you think the Anatolian Turks came from?

Primordial Ooze of the Bosphorus. /jk

Pakistanis love nobody but themselves.

We love both Turkey and China, and refuse to be a football between the two.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Interesting, after reading "deeper than ocean, higher than mountain" and "Iron Brothers" for all these years, now I don't really know what to think.

We regard Chinese in high esteem as well...Asian Asian friendship

wang sui Pak Cheen dosti

 

[Sugarcane]

That was when we had an empire of our own and a culture we could identify with.

LOL - There are wannabe Arabs and there are wannabe Mughals. Both are idiots.

Ataturk was just like Khomeini he used religion to get support from the so called Muslims but after he established the republic he allied turkey with the west and wipe out most of the Islamic identity in turkey

Khomeini on the other hand he used the religion and nationalism to get the leftists communist,librals and nationalists who were all naive and foolish to supported him and the first things he did after taking other was forbidding the freedom and democracy and called nationalism jahili ideology


When the Pakistanis were supporting ataturk they thought they were supporting Islam without knowing the true intentions of the Turks. They didn’t know that the region was filled with westernized secular nationalism and the ideology of pan islamic ideology was long dead

Ataturk did great job, because of him Turkey progressed otherwise mullahs would have kept it stuck in 16th century.

 

[Rasengan]

I'm honestly interested to learn more about this history. Because if its support for "100 years" (Pakistan only came to existence in 1947, so how are they 100 years?), China has supported Pakistan much more extensively than Turkey. China supplied Pakistan with its nuclear deterrent, without which it would have been annexed by India.

Our relationship with China is very different from Turkey, both of them hold a special place in Pakistan. Turkey respects Pakistan because it remembers how the people of the Indian subcontinent sold there gold to help the Caliphate. While Arab nationalism was rampaging across the Middle East we still believed in the existence of the Caliphate and many of our ancestors went there to fight for them. Furthermore, the ideological founder of Pakistan believed in that state, I'm talking about Allama Iqbal. People still talk in sadness in Pakistan when the Caliphate collapsed.

 

[Dungeness]

Our relationship with China is very different from Turkey, both of them hold a special place in Pakistan. Turkey respects Pakistan because it remembers how the people of the Indian subcontinent sold there gold to help the Caliphate. While Arab nationalism was rampaging across the Middle East we still believed in the existence of the Caliphate and many of our ancestors went there to fight for them. Furthermore, the ideological founder of Pakistan believed in that state, I'm talking about Allama Iqbal. People still talk in sadness in Pakistan when the Caliphate collapsed.

Correct me if I am wrong. The prevailing sentiment among Pakistanis is the relationship between Pakistan and Turkey is based on kinship and shared faith, and is based on common interests between Pakistan and China.

It saddens me when I see some pak friends would parrot West propaganda when it comes to certain issues in China.

 

[Well.wisher]

Who knows .. maybe the Turks were nice behaved that is why those Pakistanis behaved nice with them as well .

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

It saddens me when I see some pak friends would parrot West propaganda when it comes to certain issues in China.

Don't take it personal. Muslims are subjected to massive amounts of western propaganda and the west has been using us as pawns for decades for whatever war or conflict they want to begin. It will take some people time to get out of that illusion.

China needs to keep building bridges with the Islamic world. Pakistan is 100% with you.

 

[Rasengan]

Correct me if I am wrong. The prevailing sentiment among Pakistanis is the relationship between Pakistan and Turkey is based on kinship and shared faith, and is based on common interests between Pakistan and China.

It saddens me when I see some pak friends would parrot West propaganda when it comes to certain issues in China.

Brother those who speak ill of China are stooges of America and they don't represent the majority. These people have damaged Pakistan because they never want to see our country progress. If I was in power I would have these traitors sent to jail, unfortunately, the laws in Pakistan must change for that to happen. I have been to China numerous times and some of my best friends who I have known for 15 years are Chinese so I understand some of the problems in China. There's a big difference between how the Govt views the Uighur and Hui. Personally, I agree with the Central Govt policy because you can't talk to people who want to break up China. Furthermore, the Uighurs must support the Govt as the local police force, security and civil bureaucracy are Uighur. Never be sad when you read a Pakistani badmouthing China....he is the enemy and we shouldn't entertain such filth. Have you ever been to Pakistan? I can guarantee you that you won't get more love from any other country than Pakistan. Why? Because we remember the history of the KKH and how China unlike America respects us as an equal partner.

Yes, the prevailing sentiment in Pakistan regarding Turkey is kinship and faith. That doesn't mean we accept their stance against China. Even brothers don't have to agree all the time.

Furthermore, Pakistan is building a bridge between China and the Islamic world. The Saudi investing in China was pushed by Pakistan and we have requested the Prince to join CPEC and he's accepted. It's no coincidence that he agreed with China stance on the Uighur.

 

[Imad.Khan]

What is embarrassing is your amount of knowledge.

Mughals and Delhi Sultanate were people from Central Asia like Uzbeks, but not Anatolian Turks.

Anyways...


Mughals were started by Uzbeks Babur.

Probably I am more knowledgeable than you are @Imad.Khan

Don't go to wikipedia when studying history its full of nonsense.

Go to Britannica encyclopedia instead.

No you are far from knowledgeable, what family tree do Uzbeks come from what language do they speak?

 

[MultaniGuy]

No you are far from knowledgeable, what family tree do Uzbeks come from what language do they speak?

They may speak a Turkic branch influence by Persian according to wikipedia, but it is not similar to Anatolian Turkish branch,

Buddy you do not know what you are talking about.

It seems you are not knowledgeable at all.

LOL - There are wannabe Arabs and there are wannabe Mughals. Both are idiots.



Ataturk did great job, because of him Turkey progressed otherwise mullahs would have kept it stuck in 16th century.

Disagree with you. Pakistanis relate to Mughals, not Arabs.